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28. February 2023, 01:37:45
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: Open Fast Espionage
Avun Jahei: This could possibly work. it can give a slight advantage to black... even 1 less move could work as well. ultimately it comes down to whoever wants to attack first or whoever makes a blunder 1st ( blunder as in gambits his pieces or gambits sight of their piece first.)

24. February 2023, 14:06:02
Thom27 
Subject: Re: Open Fast Espionage
Avun Jahei: Good idea. I remember having suggested something similar at itsyourturn.com many years ago, but alas, it has been ignored. Very probably yours will be ignored too, since this site is not maintained or developed any more.

23. December 2022, 17:57:56
Avun Jahei 
Subject: Open Fast Espionage
White has a certain advantage in tis game (less so in other Espionage variants). There should be a slight rule change: white can in its first move only move 3 pieces instead of 5, after that the game goes on as usual.

6. February 2021, 20:51:05
Styleone 
Subject: Re: zzzz
My last game Espionage is long time ag :(

3. February 2021, 16:09:22
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: zzzz
Styleone: i just recently got back into it a little bit

3. February 2021, 10:44:58
Styleone 
Subject: Re: zzzz
Nothingness:
Yes, I miss the good old days here.

19. January 2021, 08:41:14
Nothingness 
Subject: zzzz
its awfully quiet in here

7. February 2020, 11:16:37
furbster 
Subject: 6 month prize to the winner

17. April 2019, 03:26:09
Nothingness 
Subject: Re:
Nothingness: Open Fast Espionage (Avun Jahei vs. Nothingness)

this is the moment of truth. Here I decided to protect something other than the base. I take the 1 instead of the more powerful 2. hoping that he will decide that a different piece is my base. ultimately it works. you have a 1-5 shot with this setup.. give your self a shot at 1 or 2 "?"and sacrifice them. 20% or 40% is better than 0%. I'm still not sure why he didn't choose a "?" to attack with the 3.. the key to the game wasn't the choice at the end, but that he was blinded early had had very little vision and wasn't quit sure what pieces were where.

17. April 2019, 03:19:44
Nothingness 
After my opponent makes his move I said to myself i'm finished. I will have to move quickly to prevent looking weak . much like in poker if you show weakness your opponent will sense it and crush you. I have been in situations just like this where I allow the break through bc I want a more comfortable lead and I know he cannot get to my base so i'm looking for my opp to sacrifice carelessly. This was our 3rd game the past 2 months. I lost #1 won #2 and was well in the lead in #3 and nearly blew it.

17. April 2019, 03:15:23
Nothingness 
Subject: Re: Psychology of the game
Nothingness: Open Fast Espionage (Avun Jahei vs. Nothingness)

Here was where the mistake happens on my part and when you need to understand when a weaker piece is worth much more than a stronger one. I was on cruise control. After I made my move I wondered if my opponent understood that many people sacrifice their 5 for a 3 in the end game since it can render your opponents sabs unless.

17. April 2019, 03:11:50
Nothingness 
Subject: Psychology of the game
Open Fast Espionage (Avun Jahei vs. Nothingness)

this was a very intense game. Mistakes on both sides and ultimately staying cool in the moment.

7. February 2019, 15:51:21
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: ..Back
Nothingness: Welcome back!

6. February 2019, 23:33:08
Nothingness 
Subject: ..
Im back..... For now

4. April 2017, 14:23:29
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Really!?
furbster: I don't think it's necessary to play as cautious as that. There are ways to attack that lead to victory.

13. March 2017, 15:07:26
Justaminute 
Unfortunately Espionage is one of those games that reward negativity. Hasami Shogi and Jungle are other examples.

12. March 2017, 18:13:13
pedestrian 
Subject: Re: Really!?
rod03801: True. But there's probably just a few of us around by now, anyway.

12. March 2017, 17:42:36
rod03801 
Subject: Re: Really!?
pedestrian: That stinks for everyone else, since it's a prize tournament, I believe.

12. March 2017, 16:27:55
pedestrian 
Subject: Re: Really!?
furbster: They both realized that cautious play is objectively the best strategy. As long as they're both healthy and feel capable of playing on for many years, there's no need to start playing more recklessly.

11. March 2017, 15:25:45
furbster 
Subject: Really!?
Small Espionage (Undertaker. vs. thisbeme)

I'm not expert but 118 moves in, in a small espionage game, shouldn't at least a piece have been removed from the board?

2. May 2016, 09:39:42
Chaos 
Subject: new Moderator
I tried several times to add SL-Mark and Sandoz as moderators, but now I found out they can't be because they're not paying members. Are/is there any paying member(s) willing to moderate this board? Let me know and I'll add you if the group agrees.

15. December 2015, 17:02:08
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
SL-Mark: I propsed both you and Sandoz as moderators. Since Sandoz declines because he stopped playing, it would be great if you want to become moderator! :)

13. December 2015, 21:48:58
Sandoz 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Chaos:

Thank you, Chaos, for proposing me as a moderator of this board. But, I'm by far not the most active member of this community. In fact, I quit playing here and I finished my last game a couple of month ago.

Dear sabotage fellows, I wish you all the best. Take care!

1. December 2015, 16:51:27
Chaos 
Subject: Players quitting BK
SL-Bosse: I'll miss the idea of you on BK, eventhough we didn't play or speak anymore ;) I miss the days there was an active sabotage community. I really enjoyed that! :)

1. December 2015, 16:46:35
Chaos 
Subject: Moderator(s)
SL-Mark: Thank you. The espionage board was always friendly so there was never a problem :) Maybe both you and Sandoz want to become moderators? It's possible to have more than one moderator.

29. November 2015, 19:21:37
SL-Bosse 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Chaos: I will stop playing on BK completely. Or at least a long break. I still have around 10 games running, which I'm finishing.

29. November 2015, 12:31:50
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Sandoz: Thank you for the results and look forward to improving my game in Fast Espionage.

I have now prepared tactics against those who make all out blind lucky attacks

29. November 2015, 12:28:02
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Chaos: I second that.
Sandoz as Moderator.


(Not because I don't think you have done a great job, because you have.)

29. November 2015, 11:36:24
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Modified by Chaos (29. November 2015, 11:39:21)
Sandoz: Dear Sandoz, since you seem to be the most active in the espionage community, maybe you should take over the role of moderator? I don't play the game anymore and sometimes it takes a few days before I even notice there's a new message on this board (yes, I feel ashamed). Would you like to be moderator of this messageboard? You can set a description and there are a few other possibilities.

29. November 2015, 11:33:51
Chaos 
Subject: Re:
Nothingness: So then we'll no loger hear from you here?You'll be missed!

29. November 2015, 11:31:27
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
SL-Bosse: stop playing espionage or stop playing at BK completely? I've stopped playing espionage quite some time ago, but am still playing other games at BK.

29. November 2015, 01:16:57
Nothingness 
;) happily retired as soon as my last game of backgammon ends..

24. November 2015, 15:59:10
SL-Bosse 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Chaos: Thanks. It's a pity that I now stop to play here

22. November 2015, 12:55:25
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Congratulations, Bosse. Quite an achievement! A treu master of Espionage!

10. November 2015, 20:53:08
SL-Bosse 
Subject: Re: Espionage Masters I
Sandoz: (y)

9. November 2015, 18:09:27
Sandoz 
Subject: Espionage Masters I
Dear participants,

I'm happy to announce the finish of the first Espionage Masters Tournament. Hooray!

The challenge started on:
5. September 2011, 20:05:11

And the final move was made on:
19. October 2015, 20:05:03

Hence, it took us just around 4 years to finish this beast. :-))

My congrats to SL-Bosse for winning the Espionage tourney!

Nothingness, my congrats for your victory in the Small Espionage tourney!

And last but not least, congratulations to SL-Mark for actually winning 2 tourneys of the Espionage Masters I: Open Fast Espionage and Small Fast Espionage. You really kicked our a****!
However, in the Fast Espionage tourney you lost miserably.

Thanks to everyone for taking part in this event.

Currently, I'm preparing for the Espionage Masters II.
So stay tuned guys ...!

Cheers,
Michael

And here is the link:
Espionage Masters I

5. February 2015, 02:58:08
Nothingness 
dude Id love it but im trying to stop playing all together..i hate it when I see another rd has started from soo long ago... I used to move 20-30x per day now im lucky if I move 2x per week. now I got stitches in my hand today. love the game just no time with my career change...

9. September 2014, 23:27:16
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Retirement Tournament
Sandoz: You could get away with a bishop membership (1 tournament of each game type) if ouna and I finish the game Championship continent 2012 - Europe and I win, before the Nothingness Retirement Tournament starts! If I lose, there will be another round and you will still be stuck in an Open Fast Tournament and a brain rook membership will be required.

9. September 2014, 23:13:44
Sandoz 
Subject: Re: Retirement Tournament
SL-Mark:
An incredible idea, Mark!

And a great way to complete an impressive sabotage career.

Do I have to become a member again to join the Retirement Tournament?

9. September 2014, 23:02:14
SL-Mark 
Subject: Retirement Tournament
This gives me an idea. As there is some appetite for a new tournament (see posts below), why not create a Nothingness Retirement Tournament:

Open Fast Espionage on Fischer clock of 2d/1d/5d.

Nothingness, you could host this game and even join in, comfortable in the fact that it will finish before the current round of Espionage Masters I

9. September 2014, 22:53:51
SL-Mark 
Subject: Retirement Planning
Sandoz: Started 5 Sept 2011
Fortunately only the faster players left, but it is still a 2 wins match. At an average of one move a day, 100 moves per game, and 3 games to decide the winner, we are still at least a year from finishing :)

Nothingness, rereading your retirement post on the 2 Jan 2013, I hope your wife is understanding!

9. September 2014, 17:08:06
Sandoz 
Subject: Re:
rod03801:
thank you, Rod. But, the tournament I was talking about started in 2011 or 2012, hehe

9. September 2014, 15:13:20
rod03801 
Subject: Re:
Modified by rod03801 (9. September 2014, 15:15:03)
Sandoz: No, once a tourney is started, there is no changing the time limits.
Actually, once it is created, it is not possible to change the time limit. So if the tourney is created (and not yet started) and you have changed your mind about the time, you will need to re-create it. (Unless things have changed, but I doubt it)

9. September 2014, 11:39:30
Sandoz 
Subject: Re:
Nothingness:
Don't know if it's possible to change the game speed after a tournament started but I doubt it.

Anyway, I make a move at least once per day

9. September 2014, 03:55:05
Nothingness 
can we change the game speed? shorten it for the espionage master tourney? even though its already started?

9. September 2014, 03:54:14
Nothingness 
as soon as I thought I was done all my espionage games forever another one started.. grr. will do my best to plat fast

25. August 2014, 23:23:57
Styleone 
Subject: SL League
SL-Mark:
It took a while but now I understood that you mean all variants whith an Espionage Masters II. Perhaps its better to play one variant, because we have a lot of non paying members here and want a strong field?

25. August 2014, 14:15:21
dAGGER 
Subject: Re: SL League
I look forward to a new big tournament!
My preference is for open fast.

24. August 2014, 16:57:20
Styleone 
Subject: SL League
SL-Mark:
I prefer 3 days, no vacation or 2d/1d/5d on Fischer clock. Other opinions?

23. August 2014, 23:52:06
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: SL League
Styleone:
What about:
2 days, standard vacation
3 days, no vacation
2d/1d/7d on Fischer clock

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