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7. February 2011, 14:39:17
Dark Prince 
Subject: Re: An illegal move FORCED
Dark Prince:
postscript:
That agreement would not apply to players on the list who are playing against someone not on the list since those not on the list haven't agreed.

7. February 2011, 14:34:57
Dark Prince 
Subject: An illegal move FORCED
One can move into a position in which the only allowed move for a particular piece on the following turn is an illegal one (moving back to the square it had vacated the previous turn).
If that piece must be moved due to attrition,
I would think it fair to agree that any player who moves into such a position and is subsequently forced to make an illegal move should resign even if it results from attrition caused by the opponent that turn.
Naturally, our tactics would be affected to avoid getting into such a position. Unfortunately, however, such a position may otherwise be advantageous if the bug didn't allow illegal moves.
Perhaps we should have a list of players who agree to resign a game in which they make an illegal move whether intentionally or inadvertantly.

7. February 2011, 13:25:10
Sandoz 
Subject: Re: Retracing
cookie monster:

I promise the same. :-)

7. February 2011, 13:15:55
cookie monster 
Subject: Re: Retracing
Dark Prince:

I can promise not to move back if you want to play. :)

-Eric

7. February 2011, 06:43:29
Dark Prince 
Subject: Re: Retracing
Pedro Martínez:
Sooooo..."very soon" means???
LOL
Thanks for the info.

7. February 2011, 01:10:42
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Retracing
Modified by Pedro Martínez (7. February 2011, 01:11:43)
Dark Prince: No worries, it will have been fixed with the introduction of BK 3.0… which is expected to take place very soon… or has been for the past two years…

6. February 2011, 22:40:12
Dark Prince 
Subject: Re: Retracing
Celticjim:
Thanks for your response.
Although I don't care for the game graphics or move tracking here, it's the bug that causes me the greatest reluctance to play here. There are many very good espionage players here I would challenge if the bug were resolved.

6. February 2011, 22:17:32
Celticjim 
Subject: Re: Retracing
Dark Prince:

I reported this on 19th January 2010 :

no reply yet so wouldn't hold breath:..

5. February 2011, 00:36:55
Dark Prince 
Subject: Retracing
According to the rules, a piece cannot move back to the square it moved from on the previous move. As I understand it, there was a bug that allowed such moves in certain circumstances. Has that bug been fixed?

22. November 2010, 10:37:13
Chaos 
Subject: Re: apologies

Nothingness: don't worry about our game and best wishes to you!


Hope you're feeling better soon.


22. November 2010, 03:18:08
Nothingness 
Subject: apologies
I'm suffering from a little burnout and have been moving very slowly. plus i have lots of responsibilities at work that are very important. New career = more responsibility.

17. October 2010, 22:25:47
Mikong 
Subject: Re: Finally !
SL-Mark: Yeah, it so :)

17. October 2010, 17:58:35
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Finally !
Mikong: Thought I had been excluded as I didn't see any game! Ah no, I only have a bye

17. October 2010, 16:47:25
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Finally !
Mikong: Good Luck to all! :)

17. October 2010, 16:07:39
Mikong 
Subject: Finally !
Finally, the tournament began ! :)

8. October 2010, 19:14:09
lukulus 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
SL-Mark: I meant people can play fast, if they are forced to. But some players do not understand how fisher clock works until they forfeit. But its not about slow moving:) Personally I like fischer clock. I realized, if I am playing espionage games faster, I am playing them better:)

I am in.

8. October 2010, 13:38:04
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
lukulus: Quite, if you have a long list of games, I would imagine it to be quite onerous to look out for certain games. And having so many games almost forces you to play every day... shorter time control will simply mean that the game is at the top of your list more often.
Didn't understand your point on fisher clock. Is this form of time control a problem to many?
Hope you join in too :)

8. October 2010, 13:05:28
lukulus 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
SL-Mark: You are right. I am quite slow player, sometimes quite a lot concerning to SL standards and I have "only" about 300 games. Simply its not comfortable to seek for some special game. Fischers clock games appears themselfs rather soon and for huge majority of BK members its not problem to play near every day if they must:)

8. October 2010, 11:42:01
Chaos 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?

SL-Mark: I'll make a post oin the tournamentboard, good idea. It's not really such extra hassle to send out invites since you have to send out messages to get players in anyway. You're right though; slow players will time out in the first round.


I can't change the set up of the tournament anymore- only starting date and info.


8. October 2010, 11:29:19
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
Modified by SL-Mark (8. October 2010, 11:35:37)
Chaos: Also be mindful of the fact, that with weekends set, two slow players can result in only two full moves per week!
We know that asking people to move fast is pointless (Nothingness tourny demonstrates that).

An alternative permutation would be fisher clock with setting 28hours/14hours/2days which would squeeze out a few more moves from the slow players.

8. October 2010, 11:23:09
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
Chaos: Only that this tournament will be at the top of the list more frequently! I would have made this an open tournament, the time control would weed out the slow movers quickly. It must be a hassle sending out all those invites, but I would invite all the usual suspects :) Put a post in the tournament board advertising the tournament and calling on people to contact you if they want to join.

8. October 2010, 11:10:05
Chaos 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
SL-Mark: having 100+ games is a choice... If they think they can keep up with this tournament they can enter - do give me suggestions!

8. October 2010, 11:03:15
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
Chaos: I believe many here can play fast. It is not that they choose not too (though some I'm not sure), it is just that they have 100+ games and move in games at the top of the list.

8. October 2010, 10:49:46
Chaos 
Subject: Re: re: who knows other fast players?
Mikong: if he only plays 1 move per 5 days he'll time out straight away since the time limit is 1 day 6 hrs. I can ask him if he thinks he can play this fast before inviting him.

8. October 2010, 10:47:29
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?
dAGGER: you do have the weekend days (you can choose 2 days for that). If you play at least once on the other days it's good.

8. October 2010, 08:51:09
dAGGER 
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?
Chaos:
Thank you for the invite. I could pay for a short membership, but I just realized this tournament has a very short time limit. I can't join if time limit is less than 3 days.

7. October 2010, 21:57:37
Mikong 
Subject: re: who knows other fast players?
Chaos:

♦ Dalmatiner (we currently have match, time per move is 5 days :(. it's up to you to invite him or not

7. October 2010, 15:01:46
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?
dAGGER: just sent you an invite and love to have you in, only you're still in the second round of Sabotage League - Small Fast Espionage - #2... Become a member so you can join :)

7. October 2010, 14:46:25
dAGGER 
Subject: Re: Suggested players,
Chaos:
would you also invite Nuno Miguel? He is at the top of our rating, but never joins League Events!

7. October 2010, 14:45:30
dAGGER 
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?
Chaos:
I'm in!
You know I'm not this fast, but I can make 1 move a day!

7. October 2010, 00:07:49
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Suggested players,
Mikong: Done, thanks for the suggestions!

7. October 2010, 00:05:18
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?

SL-Mark: Given the fact you're so new and have little faith in your talent I thought I'd give the tournament a modest size, but ok, if you insist I'll give you more competitors to improve your strength


I've deleted the old draft and created a new one, hope I didn't make any mistakes there. Do sign up (again)!


 


6. October 2010, 23:43:51
Mikong 
Subject: Suggested players,
New tournament is ready !!!

Chaos, you can invite
♦ drjohnj (really fast player!)
♦ AlterMann

6. October 2010, 22:46:44
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?
Chaos: The tournament is full!!!
Only four people allowed to enter.

6. October 2010, 18:35:05
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?
Chaos: I am fairly new, not sure if I have any talent or promising in any respect, but I do play quite fast

6. October 2010, 17:52:21
Chaos 
Subject: Who wants to be in and who knows other fast players?

Let me know so I can send invitations. Yes, I made it invite only so we really have a fast tournament. Also want to know about any new promising talents playing fast.


6. October 2010, 17:29:02
Chaos 
Subject: Re: single elimination?
dAGGER: time to become a member, pawn, so you can enter this new tourney! ;)

6. October 2010, 13:55:46
dAGGER 
Subject: Re: single elimination?
Chaos:
Good idea!
It's time to start another League event!

5. October 2010, 22:32:57
Mikong 
Subject: Re: single elimination?
Chaos:

good idea.
Chaos, you manage the further instructions and so on. please

5. October 2010, 21:48:38
Chaos 
Subject: single elimination?
We could set up a small single elimination tournament, this is a lot faster. We'd best choose small fast i guess, so pawns who enter this one are ready for the next tournament once it starts. How about it?

5. October 2010, 21:46:11
Chaos 
Subject: Re:
Tian-Xian: We want to have players move at least once a day so the tournament doesn't take forever. If you can play several times on other days no one will make a problem of you not moving on sunday.

24. September 2010, 18:03:55
rod03801 
Subject: Re:
Tian-Xian: Certainly, if the tourney is set up to allow for weekends and vacations.

24. September 2010, 17:53:13
Tian-Xian 
Thx I do have the weekends set up but if a tournie is a 1 day one does it allow for weekends?

24. September 2010, 01:48:40
rod03801 
Subject: Re:
Tian-Xian: Yes, click on Settings on the left, and choose the Calendar tab, and you will see where you can choose your own weekend days. (they can really be any 2 day combo)

23. September 2010, 21:19:34
Tian-Xian 
This was the last one I joined:
Sabotage League - Small Fast Espionage - #2 (Small Fast Espionage)

it is still running.
I can't play one day a move, as I don't play on a Sunday as I said -
do they have extra time for weekend moves here like IYT?

23. September 2010, 11:36:19
Sandoz 
Subject: Re: New Tournament
SL-Mark:

Absolutely true ;-)

22. September 2010, 23:03:29
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: New Tournament
Sandoz: Really, there is no need to thank me

22. September 2010, 19:40:57
Sandoz 
Subject: Re: New Tournament
Hi Mikong,

good to see a new member in the espionage community!

I'm currently taking part in an older tourney: the SL-SFE#2, where, thanks to Mark, I LOST MY FIRST GAME in the second round! Grmpf***§$F#!!!! ... well, that's another topic.

Thus, as a non-member I won't be able to join a second one.

But, as a warm-up I'm happy to send you an invite for small espionage ...

cheers, Sandoz

22. September 2010, 17:55:03
cookie monster 
Subject: Re: New Tournament
Mikong:

I have a poor track record of completing tournaments . . . so I only join them when I forget that.

Always happy to play a game though..

22. September 2010, 17:27:11
Mikong 
Subject: Re: New Tournament
Players:

♦ Nothingness
♦ Mikong (At least 1 move a day/ more on weekends)
♦ SL-Bosse
♦ SL-GentleKiller (At least two moves a day)

cookie monster: What about you? are you in?

Tian-Xian: Please, send the link of the tournament, so that we could see it. One move a day is enough i think.

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