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30. April 2008, 00:06:08
Nothingness 
Subject: set up
i think you can save many setups. i never use that anyways i use a unique set up for every game i play.

30. April 2008, 00:23:52
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: Setups
Modified by Mousetrap (30. April 2008, 00:28:55)
tankbattler ace: As Nothingness said you can save lots of setups. And I fail to understand what you mean as you are a member? Oh I see you just became a member? I dont think it makes any difference. Difference in membership and being a pawn userally just applies to the amount of tournies you can join and joining Fellowships.

30. April 2008, 11:53:31
Chaos 
Subject: Re: set ups
tankbattler ace: Hi Jim :) You can save as many set ups as you like, both as member and as non-member. I use several set ups to have something to start with. Somtimes I use a saved set up and change it so I don't have to start from scratch, but have a new set up anyway.

30. April 2008, 12:38:48
Celticjim 
Modified by Celticjim (30. April 2008, 12:39:32)
thanks for the replies ladies and gent.Figured I might as well become a member anyway Mousetrap so I did that yesterday
will take a bit of getting used to this new system I guess,I tried to save 2 different setups yesterday but I must have done something wrong.will try again .See ya's on the boards
Jim

30. April 2008, 13:09:24
Chaos 
Subject: Re: finding your set ups
tankbattler ace: maybe you did save both games, only you just see 1 name, not a list like at IYT. The other games are not immediately visble.

By clicking the arrow after "Select action for position:...." you can select one of your saved games.

30. April 2008, 13:39:26
Celticjim 
thanks Chaos ,got it sorted now,just saved my second one.I see the drop down menu saying I have 2 saved.Is there a limit?

3. May 2008, 01:04:28
Celticjim 
does anyone have a link to Sabotage strategies?A potential new player has asked me about the game but I have lost any links I used to have for Saboteurs thoughts etc

3. May 2008, 11:24:38
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Sabotage/Espionage strategy
tankbattler ace: Saboteur's site was lost quite some time ago :..(

4. May 2008, 18:24:16
Chaos 
Subject: Trying to get SL players + espionage fans on this site together
Hi all, I want to ask those who played in the SL to ask those they know to come here. And to everyone here I'd like to say; ask any espionage fan to come to this board. At IYT we had a great League. Let's try and build one here! :)

7. May 2008, 14:09:11
dAGGER 
Subject: Re: Trying to get SL players + espionage fans on this site together
Chaos:
what are you planning to build a new League here?
If I invite any new player to come here, I should tell him what is the League and what we are doing.
If you need any help, please count on me!

7. May 2008, 15:48:11
Chaos 
Hi dagger,
well we have to create a League together. It's not something one person can do ;) Nothingness is prepared to create a tournament especially for the new League once there are quite some players here. Am I right, Nothingness?

7. May 2008, 21:19:40
SL-GentleKiller 
Subject: Hi All
I'm ready for new adventures
Joseph

7. May 2008, 23:27:37
Vikings 
Subject: Re:
Chaos: I don't want to put a damper on things, just want to remind you that as a pawn member, you are only eligible to play in one tournament at a time
You can, however, all join the same stair, or, organize for an example, a single elimination tournament here and have everybody cooperate with creating their own games

8. May 2008, 02:49:32
Nothingness 
Subject: SL espionage tourney
Yes Chaos i will be starting up a tourney just as soon as we get enough people to merit such a thing. with Brains as a prize...

9. May 2008, 18:11:03
SL-GentleKiller 
Subject: New League
We could play games here, and likewise on IYT. Of course, Brainking espionage League-members should be announced about IYT's sabotage game. I say that all of us should tell about Brainking to many IYT sabotage-players, starting with all SL members.
Chaos, can You post here a list of announced SL players?

10. May 2008, 13:01:45
Chaos 
Subject: Re: New League
SL-GentleKiller: Do you mean a list of known SL members? You can find it at the official League site: http://www.geocities.com/ruths_corner/index.html


The page with the memberlist is: http://www.geocities.com/ruths_corner/LeagueMembers1.htm

26. June 2008, 03:21:54
Dry Martini 
Subject: Espionage fellowship?
Is there an Espionage(+ variants) fellowship?

26. June 2008, 04:21:15
Vikings 
Subject: Re: Espionage fellowship?
The Other Me: Espionage Freaks!
but you have to be a paying member to join a fellowship

28. June 2008, 15:33:40
Dry Martini 
Subject: Re: Espionage fellowship?
Vikings: Thank you.

Reviewing the link, it appears that here is nothing going on with that fellowship. Certainly nothing close to what the League mentioned below has going ( or is it "had going" ?)


I like the game, however I cannot see paying just to join a list.

ps. Also "Freaks" just does not sound inviting

28. June 2008, 15:46:33
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Espionage fellowship?
The Other Me: Hi, indeed there's nothing much going on around here as far as espionage is concerned. We had a very active sabotage (that's waht it's called at IYT) group (the League mentioned) at IYT, but the League has died because the messageboards at IYT disappeared. We try to build up a new League here, but it hasn't proved succesful so far...

28. June 2008, 15:57:31
Dry Martini 
Subject: Re: Espionage fellowship?
Chaos: Thank you.
Too bad about that League.
I will check this board from time to time.

28. June 2008, 20:17:45
Nothingness 
Subject: espionage freaks
basically the fellowship is in a holding pattern until we get more iyt cross overs. Eventually i will be hold a big tourney. just waiting for the right opportunity. i would rather have someone else be in charge of my fellowship. there are a few big bosses.

2. July 2008, 15:11:42
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney
I am going to be creating a tourney for Espionage which version would you like to see? and other criteria ... time limit, vaca etc...

9. July 2008, 00:26:14
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: tourney
Nothingness:
Preference would be for either Open Fast or Small Fast. Not too bothered about time limit, but probably 5 - 7 days good for most.

9. July 2008, 02:56:35
Thad 
Subject: Re: tourney
I am currently stuck in a tournament where my opponent has burned thru more than 80 vacation days and hasn't moved since March 3rd!! I absolutely, positively will not play in any tournament that doesn't use Fischer's clock.

9. July 2008, 15:18:27
Chaos 
Subject: Re: tourney
Thad: maybe limited vacation in tourney? Anyway, I'm only in when it's small fast...

9. July 2008, 20:51:03
Thad 
Subject: Re: tourney
Chaos: There is no way to limit how much vacation a player can use. It's all or nothing. Too bad Fencer can't (or won't) program BK so that the game/tournament creator can limit how many vacation days a player can use in any one game/tournament. That's one of the things that keeps this site from being good.

10. July 2008, 00:32:44
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: tourney
Thad: If you use time per move, does the option 'No days off'' not prevent vacation days from being used?

If using Fischer (time per game), then a 5 day move limit without vacation can still be set up, as the bonus and limit options can also be set to 5 days!

10. July 2008, 01:11:26
Thad 
Subject: Re: tourney
SL-Mark: Yes it does, but if no one can use any vacation days at all then a lot of players won't play in those tournaments.

So to ask an open question...
How long should an Espionage game take to complete at the longest? A month? More?

10. July 2008, 02:15:20
Nothingness 
Subject: tiem limits
Games generally can take anywhere from 1 week to 1 month depending upon the speed of the players
i have finished games in a few hours and i have had games last a few months. I notice that people here on BK take much longer to move. the vacation days do hurt things, more than likely ill have no days off but make the limit 5 days. small fast is looking like the game of choice.

12. July 2008, 08:47:33
Tian-Xian 
Subject: Re: tourney
Anyone who has played on IYT will be used to playing tourneys without vacations

14. July 2008, 15:53:40
lukulus 
I used to play on IYT couple years ago and I must say now I don believe how can I play in fast tournaments:)

Problem with fischer clock is lots of people dont understand how they work, but if it is set well, than it is good option.

15. July 2008, 22:58:14
Nothingness 
Subject: fischer clock
Modified by Nothingness (15. July 2008, 22:59:00)
i got punished by the fisher clock and i was moving fast... its broken... IMO...i was killing the guy and i was making 3-4 moves per day and i lost b/c i didnt make the LAST move of any day. Its a who can stay on the longest clock. i work 3rd shift so i made my last moves at 5 pm and did not get back on until 9 am.

16. July 2008, 00:52:16
Thad 
Subject: Re: fischer clock
Nothingness: What were the settings?

17. July 2008, 15:17:56
Nothingness 
not sure.. i think it was 7days plus 1 hour bonus....

17. July 2008, 20:08:15
Thad 
Subject: Re:
Nothingness: Did you mean this game?
Small Fast Espionage (Thad vs. Nothingness)

The bonus was too low for Espionage.

20. July 2008, 23:39:23
DarkS0uL 
Subject: NEW user
Hey there all!
Well then, I recently joined Bk. I've been playing sabotage on IYT for some tome now, and came across the Sabotage League site, only to find out it no longer is as active as it once was :(
But found a link to this site here: now my question
Is there already a new ''league'' around espionage (sabotage twin) active? With tournaments and stuff? Are you at the beginning? If so, just tell me how I can join ya all ;)
Take care !

21. July 2008, 14:15:34
Chaos 
Subject: Re: NEW user
DarkS0uL: welcome :) we're trying to set something up here, but we haven't got many players yet. still a lot of work to do... I have become more of a passive observer; I still play the game, but I'm not an active organiser anymore.

21. July 2008, 14:21:16
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney coming soon
there will be a small fast espionage tourney coming soon within 2 weeks. Ill be setting it up soon.

27. July 2008, 12:52:52
Celticjim 
count me in

27. July 2008, 15:37:40
Varazslo 
Does anybody else wants to sign up? 20 oblíbených

10. August 2008, 20:14:18
eric_hanson 
Subject: i'm back
i mention only in case anyone cares. :)

11. August 2008, 00:51:21
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: i'm back
eric_hanson: Yes we care lol. Welcome back!

12. August 2008, 18:53:48
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney

13. August 2008, 12:56:35
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: i'm back
eric_hanson: Hello Eric, hope you had a good sabbatical and welcome back. The SL'ers are slowing appearing at the top of the BKR ratings for the espionage games. Expect to see you there very soon too!

13. August 2008, 22:51:34
eric_hanson 
Subject: Re: i'm back
Mousetrap- Thank you.

Mark- I am trying to go two months with-out a time-out.

Nothingness - I see your tournament is filling up. I mentioned it to jonaron today. I also asked Tony Gardner about a possible comeback but he doesn't see it happening in the near future.

14. August 2008, 15:33:01
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney
Disregard the other tournies that were made by me. i had some technical difficulties and they should have been deleted. this is the one i meant to create.

14. August 2008, 17:58:00
Tian-Xian 
Subject: tourney
I can't join the tourney as I am already playing in 1 & I'm not a paying member. I'm nearly knocked out. Does anyone know if you can play in another as soon as you are out or you have to wait for everyone in that round to have finished ?

14. August 2008, 20:03:29
SL-Bosse 
Subject: Re: tourney
Tian-Xian: It looks like you not can join a new tournametnt until the other tournament is finished. This is a copy/paste from the rules:

2.1) Number of joined tournaments

A free membership allows a player to join only one tournament and until this tournament is finished, the player cannot sign up for another one.

14. August 2008, 20:08:53
Thad 
Subject: Re: tourney
Tian-Xian: If you have finished all your games in a tournament and if you will not advance to the next round, then you can ask Fencer nicely and he will usually let you out of that tournament so you can enter another.

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