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2. July 2008, 15:11:42
Nothingness 
Subject: tourney
I am going to be creating a tourney for Espionage which version would you like to see? and other criteria ... time limit, vaca etc...

9. July 2008, 00:26:14
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: tourney
Nothingness:
Preference would be for either Open Fast or Small Fast. Not too bothered about time limit, but probably 5 - 7 days good for most.

9. July 2008, 02:56:35
Thad 
Subject: Re: tourney
I am currently stuck in a tournament where my opponent has burned thru more than 80 vacation days and hasn't moved since March 3rd!! I absolutely, positively will not play in any tournament that doesn't use Fischer's clock.

9. July 2008, 15:18:27
Chaos 
Subject: Re: tourney
Thad: maybe limited vacation in tourney? Anyway, I'm only in when it's small fast...

9. July 2008, 20:51:03
Thad 
Subject: Re: tourney
Chaos: There is no way to limit how much vacation a player can use. It's all or nothing. Too bad Fencer can't (or won't) program BK so that the game/tournament creator can limit how many vacation days a player can use in any one game/tournament. That's one of the things that keeps this site from being good.

10. July 2008, 00:32:44
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: tourney
Thad: If you use time per move, does the option 'No days off'' not prevent vacation days from being used?

If using Fischer (time per game), then a 5 day move limit without vacation can still be set up, as the bonus and limit options can also be set to 5 days!

10. July 2008, 01:11:26
Thad 
Subject: Re: tourney
SL-Mark: Yes it does, but if no one can use any vacation days at all then a lot of players won't play in those tournaments.

So to ask an open question...
How long should an Espionage game take to complete at the longest? A month? More?

19. August 2008, 16:45:43
eric_hanson 
Subject: Re: tourney
Thad: Answering the question how long should an espionage game take:

Small Fast is generally done in under 60 moves. Usually well under (95% of the time at least one of the players knows who will win within 30 moves), though about 2% of my games go 100 moves. 113 moves was the longest of mine.

Open Fast is generally done in under 70 moves. I don't think I've ever had a game go 100 moves. Open Fast games often remain in doubt a bit longer but generally resolve very quickly because of the extra moves.

The games with obstacles can go much longer . . . I think I once heard of a 300+ move game.

I am generally a patient player, so my wins tend a bit to the long side.

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