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16. November 2009, 07:04:51
SL-Bosse 
Subject: Re: Agenda
Chaos: You asked a week ago about the name, and I propose we change to Espionage League

16. November 2009, 09:25:32
Chaos 
Subject: Re: "The Italian Disguise"-tournament
SL-Bosse:  2days + weekend (I already voted for Small Fast).

As soon as a start day is agreed I think signing up could start. I'd set the start date a little later than 1 december, but I'll join if it will be the date.

19. November 2009, 18:46:53
Chaos 
Subject: new tournament
Isn't there much interest in the messageboard lately or are there just a few of us who want the new tournament? Tell us hear what you want!

19. November 2009, 19:46:33
Celticjim 
lets vote
here's a poll I just made.It's for type only.Perhaps someone else could do another poll for time limit?

http://snappoll.com/poll/316276.php

19. November 2009, 20:02:48
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Poll
Celticjim: It's a fix!
It won't let me choose my preference! It comes back and says I have already voted

19. November 2009, 20:05:06
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: new tournament
Chaos: Not too bothered about variant, and time limit 3 days + weekends seems to be a balanced option.

19. November 2009, 20:07:52
happy hermit 
Subject: Re:
Celticjim:

Apparently I had already voted as well. :)

19. November 2009, 20:36:23
Sandoz 
Subject: League Event
well, I vote for open fast espionage with a two day time limit.

but, I'm fine with small fast espionage, too.

the main issue for me is, that we start a new league event.
really looking forward to that. and big thanks for organizing, Bosse! :-)

19. November 2009, 20:39:26
Celticjim 
Subject: Re: Poll
Modified by Celticjim (19. November 2009, 20:42:21)
SL-Mark:

Mark,it automatically filtered for one vote per i.p. and cookie so maybe we share an ip address or something cuz I'm the only one who's voted ---*shrugs*

*edit*---somehow missed Erics post saying it told him same thing-----dang cheap poll

19. November 2009, 20:58:01
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Poll
Celticjim: you create a poll letting only you vote?

Maybe it's because we all get in through the same link from here at BK.

20. November 2009, 12:09:03
Celticjim 
ok try this one and see if people can vote

http://www.yourfreepoll.com/zazclsimsp.html

20. November 2009, 12:54:32
Sandoz 
Subject: Re:
Celticjim: it works & done!

22. November 2009, 14:45:07
Chaos 
Subject: poll
Celticjim: when do we let the poll end? On the list Bosse made some time ago he counted 19 players reading this forum. Should we ask other players in the the small fast #1 and open fast #1 who don't seem to read this forum to vote?

22. November 2009, 17:20:24
SL-Bosse 
Subject: Poll 2

And a poll for the timelimits:


http://www.yourfreepoll.com/wovaldtnsr.html


22. November 2009, 17:20:55
Nothingness 
Subject: polls
How often will we use a poll? We obviously cannot use a poll every time we cannot decide on choosing a game type. This process will become very narrow minded and become extremely Boring after awhile. We cannot be a league of only two variants. Regardless of our feelings of certain variants. If we expect to improve our games we must become strong in all aspects of our game. It sis obvious that 90% of us prefer the open ( non-volcano) variants, but we cannot neglect the volcano versions either. the other option is asking for a new variant. Which I feel that could be implemented very quickly on this site. A variant that we all can agree upon.

22. November 2009, 23:07:46
Chaos 
Subject: Espionage variants
Nothingness: would BK consider implementing a 4 player variant? In Stratego such variant exists. I would love that. And ofcourse there's the corner variant already existing at IYT, we could ask for that one here. It requires quite a different strategy.

 

As for playing volcano tournaments, if there are just a few players who want to be in those it's no use. Maybe the league has to grow first? I'm ok with a fast (volcano) tournament after the next, but I don't think I'll enter.

22. November 2009, 23:15:01
Nothingness 
a 4 player variant i think would be great... I think we should gather some ideas and submit it to powers that be!

23. November 2009, 00:21:51
Chaos 
Subject: beginner's tournament
What do all you think of a beginners/newbee tournament to get fresh blood into the League?

I would be willing to set it up if I get a litlle help scouting.

23. November 2009, 00:45:22
happy hermit 
Subject: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos:

Brilliant.

23. November 2009, 00:58:51
Nothingness 
who win the original rookie tourney?

23. November 2009, 01:05:17
Celticjim 
Yvet,the poll ends after something like 30 days go by without a vote ....
looks so far like the majority prefer a small fast and quick tourny.Sounds good ta me
I sometimes wonder why there aren't so many more new players picking this game up.Maybe we should think about offering incentives as Nothingness touched on before with the memberships.

23. November 2009, 01:23:38
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos: Great, I'll join in too

23. November 2009, 22:07:58
Celticjim 
oooh
I'm the 11th Lord of Midnight

espionage achievement-capture 100 unseen enemy pieces

1. [Celticjim, Ireland,23. November 2009, 20:56:33
2. [happy hermit, United States,1. November 2009, 13:47:31
3. [chessik, Czech Republic,24. October 2009, 14:29:26
4. [Chaos, Netherlands,12. October 2009, 09:44:09
5. [AlterMann, Germany, 14. September 2009, 22:51:57
6. [SentineL, United Kingdom, 6. September 2009, 21:21:37
7. [aaru, Poland,21. August 2009, 07:01:24
8. [Borowitz, France,16. July 2009, 23:14:12
9. [FrancescoLR, United States,15. July 2009, 06:37:49
10. [Magrata, Czech Republic,13 July 2009, 12:20:05
11. [ardi, Slovakia,7. July 2009, 07:45:48

23. November 2009, 22:41:19
aaru 
Subject: Re:

23. November 2009, 22:44:18
Chaos 
Subject: espionage master!
aaru: Indeed you're the one and only espionage master so far! I find it hard to get the mines. If I'm in a game about to capture them my oppnent usually resigns.

23. November 2009, 22:53:58
Celticjim 
Subject: Re:
aaru: nice one aaru
now I'm curious what you did to get to be the MASTER

23. November 2009, 22:58:38
SL-Mark 
Subject: If all is lost, attack blind
Celticjim: Bah humbug
How many did you get wrong to achieve that score?

23. November 2009, 23:01:59
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: espionage master!
Chaos: If all is lost attack the mines.
No mines, shame, but then you are only exhibiting the traits of a top player!

23. November 2009, 23:10:06
Chaos 
Subject: Re: espionage master!
SL-Mark: You mean I should go for mines instead of victory? Ok, if you tell me your mines I promise I'll change my strategy in our game.

23. November 2009, 23:11:29
Celticjim 
Subject: Re: If all is lost, attack blind
SL-Mark:
It's amazing how often our instincts are right with this game,I think so anyway.I rarely lose a piece throwing it into an unknown opponents...........
point in question,just now I pushed 2 recons up onto an opponents line revealing 4 unknowns and 3 of the 4 were exactly what I thought(2 recons and a 4).I had no clue on the 4th but the other 3 pieces gave clues with the movement.no pieces were taken beforehand ...that's my story and I'm stickin to it

23. November 2009, 23:11:47
SL-Mark 
Subject: Sorry
aaru: Oops, sorry aaru. Just re-readiing my previous message to Chaos, I didn't mean to imply that you are not a top player too!
I do find it amazing that you have managed to get 100 mines since the achievements started. Congrats

23. November 2009, 23:15:16
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: espionage master!
Chaos: No no no! Go for victory not the mines. Attack the army every time

23. November 2009, 23:17:19
Chaos 
Subject: Re: espionage master!
SL-Mark: So you won't tell me the location of your mines?

23. November 2009, 23:18:52
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: If all is lost, attack blind
Celticjim: I was just teasing Jim
You are right about how the instincts improve over time, just that I lack the same confidence to attack blind as you do.
Mmmm, is that a weakness I have exposed?

23. November 2009, 23:21:00
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: espionage master!
Chaos: a1, d1, e1, g1, j1

23. November 2009, 23:30:58
Chaos 
Subject: Re: espionage master!
Modified by Chaos (23. November 2009, 23:34:58)
SL-Mark: ah, this was the game we agreed to place our headquarters on the front line, right?  So I first have to get around those to get to the mines!

23. November 2009, 23:50:05
SL-Mark 
Subject: Naughty Mark
On IYT, a month or so ago, I changed my display name from "SL-Mark" to "SL-Mark playing on http://brainking.com"
Our good friend Patrick has now changed my display name to my login name and I can no longer change my display name!

24. November 2009, 00:26:03
Chaos 
Subject: Re: Naughty Mark
SL-Mark: I already directed people to BK in my biographical information at IYT, and now you told me this I recommend BK also in the ratings for all the sabotage games on my profile at IYT

24. November 2009, 00:39:38
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: Naughty Mark
Chaos: Nice One!
Guess who joined the 28 hr mini rush ladder?
Careful you don't get kicked off the site!

Interesting is the difference between Patrick and Fencer. On BK, under Links, there is a long list of other game sites including IYT!!! (they do look like referral links though, so Fencer might receive a few cents if you click them)

24. November 2009, 22:09:41
SL-Mark 
Subject: :)
A Scotsman visited New York for his annual holiday and stayed at a large hotel. However, he didnae feel that the natives were friendly. "At 4 o'clock every morning," he told a friend, "they hammered on my bedroom door, one the walls, even on the floor and ceiling. Heck, sometimes they hammered so loud I could hardly hear myself playing the bagpipes."

24. November 2009, 22:18:33
Resher 
Subject: Re: :)
SL-Mark: I hope they don't all do that - I'm off to Edinburgh for a few days tomorrow and although it's a lovely place, I don't think bagpipes would add much to my enjoyment

24. November 2009, 22:30:28
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: :)
Resher: I'll pack them away for the next few days then. Have a great time!
P.S. What do you call six weeks of rain in Scotland?
Summer!

25. November 2009, 11:02:38
lukulus 
Subject: Re: :)
SL-Mark: Turist is in July in London and there is lots of rain every day. He asked Londoner "Hey, Do you have summer in London?" And Londoner replied: "Yes, of course, we have. Last year was in Thursday..."

25. November 2009, 12:42:20
Chaos 
Subject: beginner's tournament
When shall I start the have the beginner's tournament started? januari 15th? What variant shall we choose for them? They often start out playing  volcano variants.

 

Among the veteterans Fast espionage seems the most popular volcano variant. Maybe the tournament after next could be Fast? If I organise a Fast tournament for the beginner's before that, they can play along in our normal tournament playing fast.

 

I'm considering giving out a 1-year rook price for the winner of the beginner's tournament.

I'm already trying to get some beginner's (they've only played a few games) interested in really learning the game. If everyone of you will train 1 pupil the tournament could become very interesting indeed! We can compete with who has trained the winner!

25. November 2009, 23:18:49
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: :)
lukulus: But even Thursday last year July, it was raining that day too, only it was light rain

25. November 2009, 23:24:00
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: beginner's tournament
Chaos: "I'm already trying to get some beginner's (they've only played a few games) interested in really learning the game. If everyone of you will train 1 pupil the tournament could become very interesting indeed! We can compete with who has trained the winner!"

This is a very interesting idea! Assuming the trainers are reasonably competitive, you are pitting the trainers (through their pupils) against each other too.

25. November 2009, 23:37:27
happy hermit 
Subject: Re: beginner's tournament
SL-Mark:

I must go and find a worthy pupil.

Perhaps I can interest pioneer54. :)

25. November 2009, 23:49:39
SL-Mark 
Subject: Re: beginner's tournament
happy hermit: That would be a very good choice. Well discovered!
Perhaps I could interest vin in becoming my pupil :)

26. November 2009, 00:34:51
Nothingness 
Subject: Mentoring
will there be a list of trainers... that would be nice to list the trainers and assign a mentor to each newbie that registers. So I think that all the current SL members should Mentor a newbie. In my new job I have a Mentor who helps me through any problems that may occur or questions that i may have. That is a great idea Mark.

26. November 2009, 00:48:51
happy hermit 
Subject: Re: beginner's tournament
SL-Mark:

Can you guess which Sab League HoFer pioneer54 is? :)

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