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    12. May 2009, 00:36:47
    WinterAngel 
    Subject: Vaction Day,s ;
    I really don,t use mine . But only when I would be sick or something like that.Then I would.

    11. May 2009, 23:41:29
    coan.net 
    Subject: Re:
    Bwild: Earlier, I got the message with the subject "Subject: Opinion poll is finished" - about the vacation system opinion poll.

    .... which I think Fencer has it setup to send the message to any poll that you vote in, that way you can see what the results are.

    .... speaking of Polls, anyone have any good idea for a new one? Would be nice if it's BrainKing relates, but does not need to be.

    11. May 2009, 23:21:57
    Bwild 
    why do I get messages to participate in polls that are over?

    4. May 2009, 18:35:49
    WinterAngel 
    Subject: Games ;
    There all good games 2 play here on Brain King.

    28. April 2009, 15:44:16
    coan.net 
    Subject: Re: Coan
    Modified by coan.net (28. April 2009, 15:54:05)
    Snoopy: Have any good suggestions?

    I'm always looking for new good polls to do. Would love for them to be some-what related to "BrainKing" (like the current one asking how people like the vacation rule change), but I will also do fun ones (like the old one about what summer movie people were looking forward to.)

    Would also like it to be "world wide" type of question, not something like "What is your favorite US collage football team?"

    .... of course I had already "stolen" the vacation rule change poll idea from one of your fellowship polls....

    28. April 2009, 12:18:14
    Snoopy 
    Subject: Coan
    we need some more polls so we can get the achievement

    4. February 2009, 02:12:02
    nodnarbo 
    Subject: Re: HELP!!!! X]
    Vikings: but polls made in fellowships can only be voted on by people in that fellowship

    3. February 2009, 22:42:25
    Vikings 
    Subject: Re: HELP!!!! X]
    tiggar+pama=LUV: You can't, you can leave a suggestion here and maybe the powers that be might create it for you or, you can become a rook, create a fellowship and then you can create one

    3. February 2009, 22:31:58
    tiggar+pama=LUV 
    Subject: HELP!!!! X]
    how do u create a poll? jw

    14. January 2009, 23:13:29
    painter 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    SEAWOLF2:Yes cribbage and whist,I do thinck are very 2 game's,I would like to see .
    also I like back Jack.from painter

    17. December 2008, 17:02:22
     
    Subject: rummy plz
    yep rummy great game 7 & 8s is GOOD GAME LOL

    11. December 2008, 18:33:59
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Ludo played with doubling cube ?
    new poll ? what do you think ?

    7. December 2008, 11:54:45
    MadMonkey 
    After seeing the recent result of the card game poll, i was wondering how many people that voted for poker do not realize that the most common form(on TV and played in Tournaments) is Texas Hold'em, which got less votes lol

    just a thought

    28. November 2008, 06:18:38
    nodnarbo 
    Subject: Re:
    Alhimik1975: I've never played before, but that does look interesting, as a live game of course. I believe that is the first card game I have seen designed as a three player game.

    27. November 2008, 10:06:09
    Alhimik 
    I'd like to see 'Preference' at Brainking

    10. November 2008, 15:14:06
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re:
    MadMonkey: it's also peoples choice to end their lives jumping from a skyscraper but my choice is to say it doesn't make sense ... while living 4 years in Austria I used to buy one schinken semmel
    and it was delicious ... there was no other choice (for what?) ... here in the USA I have 30 choices at Subway and do you think I feel better ? If you do, it means you never tried european bread and ham ...
    I hope I expressed well what's on my mind ...
    Andy.

    10. November 2008, 12:17:48
    MadMonkey 
    All i will say on the matter is i play both on line, Poker (and many others) in real time, and also (as mentioned before) Cribbage & Canasta on BugCafe and i am quite happy with both, after all it is a persons choice to except the rules of the game when they sign up.

    Its quite simple, like any game, if you do not like it do not play it, but give people a choice.

    9. November 2008, 20:33:10
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: LOL. Whatever. The whole "turn based" part of the argument is inconsequential however since it (again) is not going to be turn based in the traditional sense.

    9. November 2008, 20:30:28
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    rod03801: ok, we agree and now we cab stop this discussion .. this is what I really wanted to hear from you.
    thanks,
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 20:27:47
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: I agree. I am a card lover. I do not like the idea of making notes in a card game. It takes away a big part of what the game is all about it.

    I again remind you of this post however : Opinion polls (Fencer, 2008-11-07 07:50:09)
    It is not going to be turn based.

    9. November 2008, 20:23:59
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    rod03801: You said: "I have agreed with you that a vast majority of card games would not work out here."
    ***
    And I am talking about vast majority not about table-top-implementations of card games ... which in a sense are table or board games using cards to "move around" ... if you want to treat seriously card games in turn-based site you better be prepared to open your notebook and make notes ... otherwise, it will be just discarding and drawing without any sense ... if majority like this kind of nonsense, that's fine. I am warning only of awaiting us disappointments.
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 20:07:39
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: I really do understand, Andy. But, if you read the news, he has already been working on this. Adding a new game type to this site (especially this type) does not make it "cookie-cutter". (It is rare to see this game type on a site of this sort). Adding this new game type does not change what is already here and gives this great site its personality.

    Who said we can't live without it? It is Fencer's site, and he has already decided to do it. Most other people seem happy with this idea, why rain on their parade? If it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out. It wouldn't be the first game that was added that probably didn't work out quite the way it was hoped it would.

    I have agreed with you that a vast majority of card games would not work out here. However, that shouldn't stop the very few that would, from being here. And as Fencer said, the new game is not going to be the traditional turn-based type. If anything, this could be the start of a "new generation" of game types/play on this site. It's pretty exciting.

    9. November 2008, 19:24:52
    Snoopy 
    Subject: i know this an old request
    and nothing to do with card games but i still love to see a new battleboat variety on here

    9. November 2008, 19:15:44
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    rod03801: someone has to "manufacture" a software for this new trend ... stop making this impression that this is something what we cannot live without and push Fencer to follow the crowd ... there are many gaming sites that are from the same candy-like factory ... I never stay long there, just register, look around and leave ... you know why ? because they do not have a soul, they are the same product like mac, burger king and cheap disney ...
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 19:08:57
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    KnightFighter: Then don't play them, and let those that want to play them do that.

    9. November 2008, 18:46:29
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES
    SEAWOLF2: You are wrong. Here are your words:
    "AS WITH ANY CARD GAMES TRYING
    TO REMEMBER DISCARDED CARDS
    AND SUCH IS EASIER IN REAL TIME PLAY AS OPPOSED TO THE TURN-BASED STYLE. "
    ***
    it's harder to remember and this is what makes card masters and the crowd ... in turn-based card games it's impossible to remember discards when you make a break, even 1 hour, not even mention days or weeks ...
    and this is the way you make remembering easier, but this is cheating not remembering ...
    If you want to remember you HAVE to make notes and this feature creates different kind of game ... it's no longer card game we know and enjoy ... true card players will never accept turn-based system ... of course, you make available, but this is like warming up ice cream in microwave ... it's possible but it makes no sense ...
    Andy.

    9. November 2008, 16:12:08
    SEAWOLF2 
    Subject: RE: RECENT OPINION POLL ON TURN-BASED CARD GAMES


    I RECENTLY REPLIED TO THE POLL AND WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN CRIBBAGE AND WHIST MAKE THE SURVERY LIST.

    WHILE CARD GAMES USUALLY ARE FASTER MOVING (REAL TIME) IN NATURE AS A RULE, THAT DOES NOT PRECLUDE THEM FROM BEING
    PLAYED AS TURN-BASED GAMES.
    OTHER WEBSITES HAVE WORKED IT OUT FAIRLY WELL ACTUALLY.

    MY CONCERN IS WHETHER THESE
    GAMES WILL ALSO WORK AS WELL FOR WEBTV-ER'S AS THEY DO FOR
    THOSE ON PC. THEREIN LIES THE
    RUB! I CAN'T SPEAK FOR ALL THE GAME SITES, BUT BUG CAFE HAS FIGURED OUT A WORK AROUND FOR
    US WEBTV-ER'S FOR BOTH CANASTA
    AND CRIBBAGE.

    ANOTHER ISSUE IS GAMES THAT ARE PLAYED BY MORE THAN TWO
    PLAYERS. IF ONE PERSON DOESN'T
    TAKE THEIR TURN IN A TIMELY FASHION IT WILL DELAY THE GAME AND RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE. BUT
    THAT IS TRUE OF ANY GAME.

    THE CANASTA GAME AT BUG CAFE COULD USE A LITTLE BIT MORE
    TWEAKING AT TIMES, BUT THE
    CRIBBAGE GAME SEEMS TO PLAY
    OUT VERY WELL.

    AS WITH ANY CARD GAMES TRYING
    TO REMEMBER DISCARDED CARDS
    AND SUCH IS EASIER IN REAL TIME PLAY AS OPPOSED TO THE
    TURN-BASED STYLE. BUT IT'S A
    SMALL PRICE TO PAY IN ORDER TO GET SOME POPULAR CARD GAMES
    ONLINE. I'M ALL FOR IT AND
    HOPE FENCER AGREES THAT IT'S
    WORTH THE TIME AND EFFORT TO
    BRING SOME CARD GAMES HERE TO
    BRAINKING.

    GO FOR IT, FENCER!!

    8. November 2008, 17:12:22
    Brag 
    Subject: Re:
    coan.net: yes I did--- sorry, actually I think I got some user names mixed up, I've corrected my comment ,

    8. November 2008, 15:28:36
    coan.net 
    Subject: Re:
    Modified by coan.net (8. November 2008, 15:28:56)
    Brag88: Opps, you got some comments confused - I'm all for turn-based card games. I've seen them work on other sites, and with a little planning for each (for unique situations like how to deal with timed out players who's cards in hand effect others) - I'm all for having turn-based card games on this site.

    8. November 2008, 13:38:46
    Brag 
    Subject: Re:
    Modified by Brag (8. November 2008, 13:48:29)
    MadMonkey: Sorry I missed that, I have a game of Canasta going at BugCafe, I'm yet to get a Cribbage game set up, mainly because this is a game I`m still learning and retarded at. My User name there is Brag88 , open to invites.

    8. November 2008, 12:58:48
    MadMonkey 
    Subject: Re:
    Brag88: Thanks for mentioning Dominoes. A great turn-based game that should not be too hard to implement and would be very popular

    As i mentioned below, i play Canasta & Cribbage on BugCafe, and they work pretty well

    8. November 2008, 11:43:39
    Brag 
    Modified by Brag (8. November 2008, 17:17:32)
    After a little bit of internet searching I have found the other turn based sites coan.net indicates, one which has Rummy or what I would call Rummy tiles played with 106 cards or tiles (2 jokers) this is implemented well and another which offers Canasta and Cribbage which I have not yet played.

    And there is another with Dominoe games which are often played faster than card games .

    Also backgammon is played very fast , and that is popular now on turn based sites.


    It is a pity that a turn based card game will not be put on this site, despite KnightFighters objections I would be interested in playing

    7. November 2008, 23:27:02
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: Cribbage
    coan.net: it's ok, but correspondence way of playing started with chess, which was quite obvious choice ... other board games joined the whole story ... and it's still ok ... card games by their very nature are played fast ,,, there is not even one card game that uses time control of any kind ... I hope you got the point ... but, you are right, let's stop this stupid discussion.
    Regards,
    Andy.

    7. November 2008, 23:18:50
    coan.net 
    Subject: Re: Cribbage
    KnightFighter: Every argument you made can be used for just about any games on this site.

    people complain that people are not moving - or not moving pieces which do anything - waiting 2 months to click on the game to move a piece.

    Playing chess over the board, you don't suppose to get outside support, but on a turn-based game system this is possible - It still is cheating.... just as it would be in a card game, but it's an argument which is already here and nothing new that is unique with a possible turn-based card game.

    I agree that some card games would be tricky to put into a turn-based game site, but with some good planning, it can work (and for some games, already works on other sites).

    Again, kind of a mute discussion since this is not what is being put on this site.

    7. November 2008, 20:08:24
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: Cribbage
    coan.net: I am just expressing my opinion the same way that supporters of turn based card games do ... there is one big difference though ... I gave a big deal of thought to this subject and the rest just want to see cards on the screen thinking everything will be all right ... It won't be and I know after a while the new wave of criticism will flow into discussion boards ... too long vaccations, hey, "he is not discarding", "she is not melding", hey, I am waiting 2 months for stupid click on the deck and so on and on ... beside this turn based card games create a whole new breed of games ... why ? it's simple ... you are not allowed at the Gin table to make any notes, to use any tools to help you ... playing on-line in turn base system you basically are allowed to cheat ... this is not card game anymore, this is cheating ... I am analysing and creating games for years and know what kind of dynamics resides in particular genre ...
    Andy.

    7. November 2008, 18:53:02
    coan.net 
    Subject: Re: Cribbage
    KnightFighter: You are right - some people would not like playing certain games in a turn based environment - Just like you are put off by turn-based card games, some backgammon players are put off by turn-based backgammon games.

    Great thing is - You are free to choose which games you want to play and not want to play. So (just a suggestion) - instead of trying to convince everyone else why you would not like turn-based card games, why not just accept that some will like to play that way and some will not.

    (And it sounds like Fencer is not making it turn-based, so sounds like what he is working on might be perfect for what you like!)

    7. November 2008, 17:50:18
    ScorpionOct64 
    Subject: Re: Cards are NOT playable on turn based site ...
    KnightFighter: your true in a sence but we have allready a game or games we make notes like
    Espionage where you make notes on squares value and position before it disapears back to a question mark

    7. November 2008, 17:46:52
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: concentration
    ScorpionOct64: No, marking cards already discovered would spoil the whole idea of this game ...

    7. November 2008, 17:38:51
    ScorpionOct64 
    Subject: concentration
    what about concentration....could be a turn based game...you could also make in game notes on cards allready showen and turned back over

    7. November 2008, 15:54:45
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Mix of board and card game
    Table Top Cribbage ... this the only card game that I can see played on a turn base site ... Poker can also be played this way on a 5x5 board ... please read a link to Table Top Cribbage.
    http://www.pagat.com/domino/ttcrib.html

    7. November 2008, 15:42:09
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Cribbage
    Hi, I am a certified cribbage judge at American Cribbage Congress and play cribbage in a league.
    Interesting thing about cribbage is that this game unlike any other card games do not require players to use their memory ... it's a very fast game and it takes around 20 minutes to get to 121 point on a board ... it's basically a racing game ... i was trying to imagine how to play it on turn based site ... ok, I sit by the table with my son, we cut, deal and discard ... now, my son says, ok, see ya tomorrow, I am takin vacations ... tomorrow he comes, plays a 7, I play 8 making two points for 15 and my son says, see ya in one hour ... after he comes, playes 6 and scores 3 points for a run a I say, I have to go to work, see ya after dinner ...
    ***
    my question is : do you want to play such a game ?
    it just doesn't make sense ... I love cribbage but this is not chess to meditate hours na hours on the next move ...
    Andy.

    7. November 2008, 14:27:03
    Brag 
    Yes Cribbage has got to be the best in my opinion for a turn based game

    7. November 2008, 09:19:17
    oldhamgirl 
    Subject: Card Games
    Why is Cribbage not on list, I love that game

    7. November 2008, 08:36:07
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: Cards are NOT playable on turn based site ...
    Modified by rod03801 (7. November 2008, 08:36:55)
    Fencer: Neat!

    So, wow, that's even MORE exciting! Do you have plans of multiple types of card games then, at some point? I love cards!!! I can't wait!

    WebTV fully implementing JavaScript specification is not only unlikely, but also I believe impossible. lol. I'm surprised anyone still uses that device. I did for many years, but would never go back to it, now. It just hasn't kept up with the times. It was a good thing 10 years ago. I try to talk people into switching from WebTV to computer quite a bit now.

    7. November 2008, 07:50:09
    Fencer 
    Subject: Re: Cards are NOT playable on turn based site ...
    rod03801: It won't be a turn based game. It also means that it won't work on WebTV and similar devices, unless they fully implement JavaScript specification (which is very unlikely).

    7. November 2008, 04:18:25
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: Cards are NOT playable on turn based site ...
    Modified by rod03801 (7. November 2008, 04:21:05)
    KnightFighter: I'm not fooling myself. I have been part of turn based sites for many years now, as I'm sure you probably have too. I have also been playing card games practically my whole life, and am quite aware of the limitations. Yes, a huge majority of card games would not work. (At least not in a "satisfying" way)

    My point was that no one needs to "wake up". Fencer has already said a card game is coming.

    There is already at least one turn based site that successfully has card games, as well.

    7. November 2008, 04:07:49
    Herlock Sholmes 
    Subject: Re: Cards are NOT playable on turn based site ...
    rod03801: card games are closed games and they relay on memory and rapid respose ... after few days of waiting for a discard or bet from opponent the whole beauty of card game is gone ... do not fool yourself ... by looking at the discards you get idea and plan for your game ... if you won't make notes you will forget what you had in mind ... it doesn't make sense,
    in chess and any board game it's fine to waitfor opponent's move but not in a card game ... in a board game nothing is missing, everything is in front of your eyes, today and in two years from today... card games are different spieces ... differentr dynamics.
    Andy.

    7. November 2008, 03:30:30
    rod03801 
    Subject: Re: Cards are NOT playable on turn based site ...
    Modified by rod03801 (7. November 2008, 03:40:23)
    KnightFighter: why do we have to wake up? Fencer has already said he is working on a card game. And as has been stated, another turn based site has card games.

    7. November 2008, 03:06:43
    MadMonkey 
    Subject: Re: Cribbage and canasta
    Nirvana: I have many games of both running, and i think they work well turn-based as long as they are coded properly. Its good on BugCafe as in Tournaments there they have a maximum of 3 days per move, no vacations, so you get no problems of never ending Tournaments

    7. November 2008, 02:50:39
    Nirvana 
    Subject: Re: Cribbage and canasta
    MadMonkey: are both good

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