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Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Artful Dodger:I know that if I were hospitalized, I wouldn't be worrying about my games.!

2. March 2009, 23:22:25

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Hrqls: Good points and in the end, I can live and be happy with whatever the policy is. It really doesn't negatively affect me anymore as it once did.

I did have one thought after reading your previous posts. If someone was having serious problems with their ISP or if they were long term hospitalized, I see no reason not to place a temporary adjounment to their games (for a limited amount of time) without the bother of having to buy more vacation time. Seems to me these types of situations would be few and far between. I know that if my ISP went down, I'd have multiple options to connect and send a message to Fencer. And if hospitalized, same thing. Plus, many people simply use their comptuters from their hospital bed. Exceptions like the ones you bring up are good ones. But I suspect that too often the vacation days are used as time out insurance. And if a person uses them that way, then when they truly need them (for real emergencies), and they have none left, no one is to blame but themselves. I suspect this would most often be the case.

2. March 2009, 21:18:09

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

alanback: Yes, that's a good idea.

2. March 2009, 21:02:51

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

"GERRY":http://brainking.com/en/Advertising

2. March 2009, 20:55:27

Hrqls

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Artful Dodger: agree .. i manage quite well with vacation days + weekends .. but there might be some events in the future where my normal amount might not be enough .. even if i wouldnt spend any vacation days at all during the rest of the year (i think i (brain rook) have 30 days per year ? thats 6 weeks .. which can easily be taken away by some of the points i named below

for normal days/years the amount of vacation days is plenty .. for those unlucky ones its possible to buy extra days

those who buy extra days even while they are not unlucky .. hmm .. let them be .. it doesnt matter to you .. the only ones it would matter to are pawns as those 'endless' games take up a game slot .. for rooks (and certainly for a block rook like you) 1 extra game in the waiting list in which its your opponents move should not make a difference

i agree though that a limit on the amount of vacation days would be nice .. but i can live and still be happy if it stays unlimited like it is right now .. why bother ? better have fun with what you do have :)

2. March 2009, 20:49:36

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

alanback: Excellent point. I just lost 800 US dollars becasue of a flight cancellation. Fortunately, I can use the flights in the future (but only for up to 1 year). Otherwise the entire amount is lost. And the cancellation? Due to an illness. Life.

2. March 2009, 20:45:21

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Hrqls: All good reasons. All the more reason to use the days you have properly. To use them as vacations and emergencies is good. To use them to not time out on games because one has so many games, not good. Of course I go with the rules of the site. I just don't favor anyone getting any additional days for any reason.

2. March 2009, 20:38:27

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

Fencer: Yes i agree with you there because i do not see any ad's of any kind on my setting that i am on now:))))

2. March 2009, 20:30:58

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

Fencer: & what are the cost of them there?

2. March 2009, 20:29:06

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

puupia: I see what your are taking about now

2. March 2009, 20:13:19

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

Fencer:Clearly the solution is to rename "tips" and call it "tips and ads" ;-)

Of course, to someone who wants the product, an ad is a tip!

2. March 2009, 19:53:32

Subject: Support us

Fencer is there a cost to put a ad there?

2. March 2009, 19:47:04

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

puupia: Because I see a reason to do it. Ergo, it will stay there. You have always an option to upgrade your membership level and disable all advertisements.

2. March 2009, 19:33:56

puupia

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

Fencer: Why should you do something? Becouse the ad is obviously in completely wrong place. I don't see any reason to put ads into tips instead of annoying users. Why did you put that there in the first place?

2. March 2009, 18:51:29

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

alanback: I agree with you 100% I myself have found peace of mind

2. March 2009, 18:34:16

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

"GERRY":Many life events interfere with our leisure activities. If I book a vacation and there's a cancellation fee, I can't go to the travel agent and ask for a refund because my boss decided to send me on a business trip instead. In most cases it's the same if I'm sick. Games just aren't that important, are they? And how do you measure the inconvenience to other players from granting extra time to the occasional unfortunate? Sometimes, the ball just bounces the wrong way, in games and in life. We're better off learning to deal with this reality than constantly asking for the world to take our burdens off our shoulders.

2. March 2009, 18:09:02

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

puupia: So you are outraged. Why should I do anything about it? Just calm down.

2. March 2009, 17:22:10

puupia

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

Fencer: The tip of the day section has very nice hints and tips on playing games and using Brainking. When browsing through those tips no-one expects to get a "hint" that you should buy a software (almost) completely unrelated to BK. If that ad was somewhere else, like where the rest of the ads are, it would be fine. But putting ads within those tips is just outrageous.

2. March 2009, 12:36:10

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

puupia: I must have missed that one .But mine is on now & they are very good tip's

2. March 2009, 12:34:04

Subject: Re: Tip of the day

puupia: No.

It's perfectly OK. I define what is over the top.

2. March 2009, 12:17:39

puupia

Subject: Tip of the day

Isn't it a bit over the top to advertise a commercial product on the tip of the day? Ads should be put somewhere else. Tips of the day should be reserved for tips and hints about Brainking!

2. March 2009, 09:29:03

Hrqls

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Artful Dodger: there can be many reasons, some examples
- an unexptected longer illness
- an unexpected change of jobs where internet access is more limited than your previous job
- an unscheduled long vacation
- an unexpected illness of a family member
- unexpected computer / provider problems

the policy of vacation days (or even no vacation days) is different per game site

the policy of this site is to allow vacation days .. and at the moment the policy is to allow rebuying of more vacation days

1. March 2009, 18:54:04

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Artful Dodger: As i am mine also

1. March 2009, 18:51:38

Mort

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Artful Dodger: As I am mine.

1. March 2009, 18:39:47

Mort

Subject: Re: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

Artful Dodger: No, that's not life. That's an opinion. In the end it'll be up to Fencer and HIS opinion on how the matter is resolved.

It's not a case of "pity", it's a case of real life.

1. March 2009, 17:55:20

Subject: There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

(V):That's life Jules. No exceptions. No pity cases. Part of the games are the time constraints. If you can't meet them, you time out. I've played over the board tournaments for years and that's a huge part of the game. You don't get extra time because you don't feel well. Nuf with the excuses. You get so many vacation days a year so use them wisely.

1. March 2009, 16:29:16

Good Luck :)FLR

Subject: BLACK ROOK FIRST PRIZE TOURNEY

WIN A BLACK ROOK AND BECOME ONE OF THE ETERNALS !!

open to all pawns

1. March 2009, 13:34:10

Mort

Subject: Re: Reminder

Artful Dodger: It's only unfair if misused Dan. There are genuine cases where people get ill and end up in hospital.

28. February 2009, 23:49:46

Subject: Re: Reminder

(V): No one is being punished Jules. You get X number of vacation days a year. Use them wisely. If you have problems and need more, too bad for you. Stop playing so many games. I don't feel sorry for people who time out in games when they are given enough vacation days a year. It's unfair to other players when people get more days. You get what you get and that's it.

28. February 2009, 23:02:51

Mort

Subject: Re: Reminder

Artful Dodger: Sometimes there are good reasons, you cannot punish the whole because of one or two abusing the system.

28. February 2009, 21:58:08

joshi tm

Subject: Re: thanks Fencer

Snoopy: It plays really ddifferent indeed! You can't go gung ho all for one and one for all, since there are three kings to eliminate.

28. February 2009, 21:51:06

Snoopy

Subject: Re: thanks Fencer

joshi tm: its a very different game from normal dice chess ive found
im not sure about having 2 turns thou

28. February 2009, 21:32:39

joshi tm

Subject: Re: thanks Fencer

Snoopy: Just a thought....

Have about making two turns at once in this game? But they should e done with different pieces.

28. February 2009, 21:24:09

Subject: Re: Reminder

(V): Why any extra days anyway? When they are gone, they are gone. Part of the game is the time limits. I oppose any additional days.

28. February 2009, 18:53:45

Constellation36

Thanks for the answer. :-)

28. February 2009, 18:51:55

coan.net

Subject: Re:

Constellation36: All current running games will continue - even if you are over the limit.

If you make it into a next round of a tournament - those games will start also.

The only thing you will be kicked out of is new tournaments you might be signed up for since you will be over your game limit.

But no worries - you will be able to continue to play all current games.

28. February 2009, 18:50:16

Constellation36

I have the Brain Bishop type of membership that expires today. I have also more than 20 games running. When the Brain Bishop expires in a few hours and i will transformed into a Pawn what will happen with my games?
Will they expire also in order the 20 games restrictions for Pawns to be applied?

28. February 2009, 14:51:31

Mort

Subject: Re: Reminder

rod03801: I thought the talk was to limit the extra days you can get in one year, sure someone is entitled to buy as many memberships in a year as they please, but the talk as I have mentioned was a limit, maybe such as only an extra ten or fifteen days a year.

28. February 2009, 02:57:59

Subject: Re: Reminder

rod03801:I don't think it's so much a matter of abuse as of thoughtlessness. People should not be subject to criticism for following the rules of the site. The rules can always be changed if they don't suit the majority of users. However, deliberately delaying matches is rudeness, another term for which is unsportsmanlike behavior, and that can legitimately be criticized.

26. February 2009, 19:24:11

rod03801

Subject: Re: Reminder

Charles Martel: Well, a few have had suggestions, but I haven't seen any response from Fencer about it. So, I don't know

Fortunately, it's not a wide-spread problem. (As far as people buying memberships over and over again to get a few years' worth of vacation days in one year)

26. February 2009, 17:35:55

Subject: Re: Reminder

rod03801: I also being a humble member the word ABUSE is that on Topic & also look towards leadership for it.

26. February 2009, 17:10:29

tyyy

Subject: Re: Reminder

rod03801: But is there a solution?? We humble members look towards the leadership for it.

26. February 2009, 15:19:12

rod03801

Subject: Reminder

Please remember that Hrqls has asked that talk of this specific person should not continue. Abuse of the vacation days policy and solutions in general are welcome topics.

Thank you.

26. February 2009, 15:06:31

Good Luck :)FLR

Subject: Re: Vacation days

Carl:unluckily that one you are playing is someone that shouldn;t be in brainking .. sorry .. i always make sure that if he signs in any tourney i am not there and he is banned from all my tourneis
eventually he will need to move so push him to limits .. do not give him any break .. move as much as you can

26. February 2009, 14:23:05

Roberto Silva

Subject: Re: Vacation days

Carl: Or maybe he's doing it so that players will get fed up and resign - that way he actually manages to win a couple of games

26. February 2009, 13:25:21

Carl

Subject: Re: Vacation days

alanback: Odd indeed.As well as not being a mathematician I'm also not a psychologist.But this has got me wondering.This stalling is obviously being done on purpose so I'm thinking that perhaps there's some minute sense of power being derived from these tactics? To most of us this is a place to play games,nothing more,nothing less.But to a lesser mind, it may be all they have in life that gives them any sense of self importance.As i said i'm, no psychologist so don't really know how a human mind works and thinks.But surely this behaviour is more to be pitied than scolded.

26. February 2009, 12:57:40

Subject: Re: Vacation days

rabbitoid: Welcome to the WONDERFUL WORLD of BrainKing:)))

26. February 2009, 08:02:50

rabbitoid

Subject: Re: Vacation days

Carl: Welcome to the wonderful world of automatic vacation

26. February 2009, 01:29:24

Subject: Re: Vacation days

Carl:Hadn't noticed this before, but I see I must be playing the same person. Still in the first game of 2 7 point matches started in August. Odd.

26. February 2009, 00:46:49

Fitzmertz