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5. June 2005, 17:51:36
rabbitoid 
Subject: Re: Draw in anti-chess?

6. June 2005, 10:30:07
WhisperzQ 
Subject: Re: Draw in anti-chess?
rabbitoid: Assuming best play ... there are traps to be avoided for the unwarry!

6. June 2005, 12:10:40
rabbitoid 
Subject: Re: Draw in anti-chess?
WhisperzQ: sorry, I don't know. the table in the link only states the expected result, not the means to achieve it.

6. June 2005, 13:02:24
Chessmaster1000 
These traps are obvious even for an idiot-inexperienced player so if we have a KRK Anti-Chess endgame it's toooooo easy to avoid them for both sides and have a draw.........

6. June 2005, 14:57:18
grenv 
Subject: Re:
Chessmaster1000: That's a little arrogant, I think many inexperienced players playing the KR would lose to the king, especially if they thought they could win. For instance the method a rook beats a king one on one may be tried, and this would lose.

6. June 2005, 19:22:16
Pedro Martínez 
You remind me of Trice, Mr. Tsavdaris...

6. June 2005, 19:26:43
Harassed 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Harassed (6. June 2005, 19:28:24)
Chessmaster1000: There is nothing idiotic if someone is not master in some game, neither the opposite, if someone is able to play some games at higher level, it doesn't automatically mean his life has greater value or something. BTW Pedro, why don't you resign this game with me and only play it with the slowest possible tempo?
http://brainking.com/en/ShowGame?g=793867
U want to win or something, or you just care about your rating so much, waiting for mine to raise?

6. June 2005, 19:27:07
grenv 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: Ouch.

On the other hand, the question was asked, and then apparently we were told an idiot would know, so a fair comment.

6. June 2005, 19:34:24
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re:
fungame: sorry, fungame, I didn't mean to prolong that game...too many games going...you know what I'm talking about...

6. June 2005, 19:36:12
Pedro Martínez 
LOL @ grenv...

6. June 2005, 19:36:30
Harassed 
Subject: Re:
Pedro Martínez: Yes, I know exactly, in some games I didn't make the first move yet! And if there is some period where my connection is good, I waste time with writing to boards

6. June 2005, 20:25:07
Chessmaster1000 
Modified by Chessmaster1000 (6. June 2005, 20:28:56)
White: King + Rook
Black: King

White's plan:
  • Keep the Rook 2 files and 2 ranks away from the King in each move, having in mind the next move of black too.
  • Keep the King 2 files and 2 ranks and 2 diagonal squares away from the King in each move, having in mind the next move of black too.

    Black's plan:
  • Keep the King 2 files and 2 ranks and 2 diagonal squares away from the King in each move, having in mind the next move(s) of white too.

    Why it's so difficult...........?
    Sorry if by saying the words "idiot and inexperienced", someone felt insulted or whatever.........As always my absolute language was misunderstood........I just meant that it's so easy to play for both sides without even have to think........Your other conclusions for my statements are not mine.........!

    Fungame:
    There is nothing idiotic if someone is not master in some game, neither the opposite, if someone is able to play some games at higher level.
    And tell me where i have written such a thing.....?

    And Pedro Martínez: you also remind me someone called Martinez from Gothic Chess board with some statements that i didn't agree at all. I don't remember the name.......
    (Just kidding, although you will take it differently, i bet.....!)

  • 6. June 2005, 22:08:51
    grenv 
    Subject: Re:
    Chessmaster1000: You may not have to think about it, but others might. Calling those people stupid will not win you any friends.

    6. June 2005, 22:23:43
    votacommunista 
    Subject: Re:
    grenv: I think Chessmaster1000 means "unexperienced" instead of "stupid". I suppose this was a translation problem.
    In general: We, who do not have English as native language, have something problems choosing the right word. WalterMontego, isn't it?

    6. June 2005, 22:27:16
    grenv 
    Subject: Re:
    chessmec: So in what language are stupid and inexperienced synonyms?
    Also it is absolutely incorrect that an inexperienced player would see the strategy espoused here easily, certainly a stupid person would have no hope.

    6. June 2005, 22:38:23
    votacommunista 
    Subject: Re:
    grenv: So in what language are stupid and inexperienced synonyms?
    Please, read my posting carefully till the end, and in a context-sensitive way, please.

    6. June 2005, 22:42:42
    grenv 
    Subject: Re:
    chessmec: ? i did.

    6. June 2005, 23:26:21
    Mort 

    8. June 2005, 23:05:36
    Kili 
    I hope the choice of this word was because of an unexperienced english speaker :)

    9. June 2005, 13:44:47
    nabla 
    Subject: Anti-chess endgames
    Modified by nabla (9. June 2005, 13:52:30)
    If you have any other question on Anti-chess endgames, fear to be called stupid and can read a tiny bit of French, the endgame section of my webpage (http://www.pion.ch/Losing/endings.html) will probably answer it.
    [Made link live ... WQ :]

    11. June 2005, 11:56:52
    Harassed 
    Subject: Announcement
    Modified by Harassed (11. June 2005, 12:23:24)
    Join fast tournaments for advanced players:
    Anti chess http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=9031&tri=44303&trnst=0
    Dark chess http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=9033&tri=44305&trnst=0
    Janus chess (10x8) http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=9028&tri=44300&trnst=0

    Join fast tournaments for all players:
    Atomic chess http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=9035&tri=44307&trnst=0
    Berolina chess http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=9027&tri=44299&trnst=0
    Loop chess http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=9030&tri=44302&trnst=0

    Ideal for pawns who don't like to spend years waiting for tournament to finish or for players who like to play fast.

    23. June 2005, 13:59:45
    Expired 
    Hey all,

    Due to teh current bug in Dark Chess games players can see what moves their opponents have made.

    redsales named it 'grey chess' which I think is a good addition to the site!!!

    What's more, based on that, I have a new game type in my mind named red chess.

    When a piece is captured, its blood will split on some squares of the board randomly and both players for a few moves will not be able to see those squares and therefore, they'll have a good chnace to move their pieces in REDNESS.

    I'll have to work on details more of course!

    What do you all think?

    Is it possible to play such a game?
    I think it'll be an interesting variant.

    23. June 2005, 14:07:41
    Chessmaster1000 
    Nice.............!

    Is it possible to play such a game?
    He,he, why not.........?

    23. June 2005, 14:08:35
    Mort 
    lol They did have a chess game like that out ages ago. It was called "Battle Chess". I think they even did a Chineses Chess version of it :)

    23. June 2005, 15:43:38
    grenv 
    Subject: Re:
    reza: What bug?

    23. June 2005, 17:24:53
    Expired 
    Subject: Re:
    grenv: Fencer has corrected it. A few hours ago, any of your opponents may have seen all your moves. Fencer has switched everything back.

    23. June 2005, 17:26:24
    Expired 
    Subject: Re:
    Jules: Really? didn't know that. Still, I think it'll be a nice game.

    23. June 2005, 17:46:52
    Expired 
    Subject: Re:
    Chessmaster1000: So you think it's a well balanced game, huh? I think it is.

    23. June 2005, 18:04:07
    redsales 
    but in battle chess, you could see the squares, reza is proposing that the blood obscure the squares as in dark. Could make for some high level timing strats.

    THe problem with grey chess is that you can just play over the game based on the move list, so that it becomes regular chess!

    23. June 2005, 19:18:11
    Mort 
    Subject: Re:
    reza: When I win the Lotto *cough* I'll give Fencer the money to buy the server to run it on this site :)

    24. June 2005, 07:44:44
    Expired 
    Subject: Re:
    redsales: I would probably say that in grey chess, not all the moves should be shown to the opponent. For example every three moves or every five moves. Now I think it'll be interesting.

    30. June 2005, 21:28:39
    danoschek 
    Subject: thai chess
    anyone seen that variation ?
    all pawns are one step ahead in start position
    - saw an article in the eurpa rochade magazine. ~*~

    1. July 2005, 13:13:12
    Fencer 
    Subject: Re: thai chess
    danoschek: Makruk?

    1. July 2005, 22:05:09
    danoschek 
    Subject: Re: thai chess
    Fencer: yes - that's how it's called
    on chess variants dot com - just checked ... ~*~

    25. July 2005, 06:27:05
    votacommunista 
    Subject: many thanks to redsales
    many thanks to redsales for this two amazing fischer chess games:

    http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=806880
    http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=806881

    Although they were drawn the games were a really great struggle. Thanks!

    25. July 2005, 09:23:19
    redsales 
    Subject: Re: many thanks to redsales
    chessmec: you weren't too shabby yourself! congrats on playing excellent games!

    25. July 2005, 09:32:43
    votacommunista 
    Subject: Re: many thanks to redsales
    redsales: thanks (turning red)
    I think whe had both our chances in both games ... and did not realized them. so the draws were fairly ...

    oh, if we would have played this games in real life ... they would be my most greatest tournament games.

    28. July 2005, 06:01:28
    Walter Montego 
    Subject: Berolina Chess
    I have four games in the "Waiting games" section if anyone would like to play a game or two. 2 game time limit with vacations and weekends still happening.

    2. August 2005, 12:40:57
    Egzot (CLOSED) 
    Subject: atomic king!

    8. August 2005, 19:25:10
    Expired 

    22. August 2005, 18:19:58
    AbigailII 
    Subject: R in after move in Knight Relay Chess.
    I notice that if you move non-knight with a knight like move, a 'R' is put after the move. I wonder what the 'R' stands for.

    22. August 2005, 18:44:07
    grenv 
    Subject: Re: R in after move in Knight Relay Chess.
    AbigailII: I suspect "Relay"

    22. August 2005, 19:28:34
    Fencer 
    Subject: Re: R in after move in Knight Relay Chess.
    AbigailII: That means a move relayed by a knight.

    24. August 2005, 21:35:40
    votacommunista 
    Subject: "atomic chess pro"
    an idea: to make atomic chess a little bit more well balanced it would be helpful to place three pawns (white: e3-f3-g3; black: e6-f6-g6) to secure the weak points f2/f7.

    is my idea of "atomic chess pro" silly or not? what do you think?

    24. August 2005, 21:51:02
    grenv 
    Subject: Re: "atomic chess pro"
    chessmec: I used to think it was a little unbalanced as well, but recent games against reaally good players (here and on other sites) has shown me otherwise.

    24. August 2005, 21:53:21
    votacommunista 
    Subject: Re: "atomic chess pro"
    grenv: i did not say that atomic chess is unbalance ... my suggestion has the intention to make it more well balanced.

    and in my opinion: witn the more pawns it would be easier for beginners

    24. August 2005, 22:11:22
    grenv 
    Subject: Re: "atomic chess pro"
    chessmec: Ok, but you wouldn't want to do that unless you thought it was at least a little unbalanced. I was trying to say that it is extremely well balanced as it is when played well.

    Actually to get rid of all the opening theory, which is what makes it unbalanced if anything, I think it would be good to have fischer Random Atomic Chess.

    24. August 2005, 23:59:51
    Chessmaster1000 
    chessmec: is my idea of "atomic chess pro" silly or not? what do you think?

    No, it's not silly but "Atomic-Pro" would not be so good game as Atomic Chess......It would be much slower.......


    grenv: I was trying to say that it is extremely well balanced as it is when played well.

    With a first thought Atomic Chess seems a game that white has a confortable advantage.....
    Yet, with a more deep analysis it seems that black is not in a so bad shape at all and that actually chances for both white-black are even........
    But finally with an even deeper analysis, there is one opening line that leads to a VERY VERY difficult position for black to defend. Until now i haven't found any defense for black and all variation loses (i will not give the line yet) but i'm trying......

    25. August 2005, 08:22:54
    redsales 
    Subject: Re: "atomic chess pro"
    grenv: i totally agree with the Random Atomic Chess (RAC) proposal...it is too easily memorized as it is, moreso than chess, since many more moves are forced or virtually forced. Suicide Chess could use a shot in the arm here too.

    25. August 2005, 10:12:44
    nabla 
    I also agree with Random Atomic Chess and Random Suicide Chess, the games as they are suffer a bit from a narrow non-losing path in the opening. But how to generate random position which will not be forced wins for White ?

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