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4. December 2005, 00:00:21
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re: rabbit
redsales: I thought Bird put the game and game pieces in the public domain in 1874? :)

24. December 2005, 20:03:02
Walter Montego 
Subject: Dark Chess Quarterly Tournament Number 4
Modified by Walter Montego (24. December 2005, 20:15:07)
Time to restart the quarterly tournaments.
Starts January 20th, 2006.

Two games switched colors, open to all. Good luck.

I might add some other variants, but the announcements will depend on board size. Extinction Chess is likely (8 × 8). The tournament board will have them. Maybe in a few weeks.
A link,
http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=12781&trnst=0

1. January 2006, 15:37:25
nabla 
Subject: Obituary
I have sad news to report : David Pritchard, for whose second edition of the Encyclopedia of Chess Variants I collected games here, has died accidentally on December 11. A big part of the book was already written, but I have of course no idea whether someone will finish the huge work that he was doing. I will forward here the information I might get about that.

Among the great games collected here, a few of them may still be published in another way, either in the magazine "Variant Chess", either on my website. Again, if it happens I will inform the players who provided me the games.

Thank you one more time to all contributors.

1. January 2006, 20:10:45
Nasmichael 
Subject: Re: Obituary
nabla: Wow. I get the Variant Chess magazine (which is great), and I am crushed by this news.

2. January 2006, 06:12:07
WhisperzQ 
Subject: Re: Obituary
David Pritchard: A link to a short obituary

7. January 2006, 22:28:22
furbster 
Subject: 11 hours left 3 more players needed for screen chess tourney

1. February 2006, 17:17:20
dameningen 
Screenchesses if one resing after the first moves it should affect to BKR! The game is often ended after the pieces have putten on the board. What do you people think about it?

1. February 2006, 17:24:58
rabbitoid 
Subject: Re:
Salkkuman: definitely. and the same goes for the "delete game" techique!

1. February 2006, 17:38:27
grenv 
Subject: Re:
Salkkuman: Yes. Deleting a game like screenchess should be available before the pieces are set up, but not afterwards. At that point it is equal to resigning.

3. February 2006, 13:49:47
Fencer 
Yes.

3. February 2006, 13:50:17
Fencer 
Subject: Random games

3. February 2006, 14:30:19
furbster 
Wow intersting idea, although i suck at chess i'll give it a go lol

3. February 2006, 15:14:11
grenv 
Subject: Re: Random games
Fencer: lol, i'm in. Some of these variants I've never played, so it will be interesting. :)

3. February 2006, 15:50:17
dameningen 
Subject: Re:
Modified by dameningen (3. February 2006, 16:14:01)
Fencer: good you said yes, maybe you do to the thing something? Random games nice idea! If there is but rating which players should have in this random game type. would it be so that after the variation is selected some people would drop out? Maybe also challenging for random games for one on one will be soon possible?

3. February 2006, 16:20:19
nabla 
Subject: Re: Random games
Fencer: I like the idea, this will be my first BK tournament !

3. February 2006, 17:28:30
Nasmichael 
Subject: Re: Random games
Fencer: Kudos for the creativity!

4. February 2006, 00:47:38
WhisperzQ 
Subject: Re: Random games
Fencer: Great idea ... this would be a cool idea for a team tournament too.

4. February 2006, 01:15:37
Chicago Bulls 
Subject: Re: Random games
WhisperzQ: No it's not a good idea What would happen if i had to play a Knight Relay Chess game or even worse a Maharajah game, or even worse a Maharajah with white game....?
But generally i find the idea good too.....

4. February 2006, 01:49:20
WhisperzQ 
Subject: Re: Random games
Pythagoras: It actually set me thinking about bidding systems which you might use to bias the choice of game you might receive to hedge against games you don't like and for games you do ... but it all got too complicated.

I signed up for the competition too, fully knowing that I might get a White Maharajah (oh well, now I will you watch!) or to play grenv at dark chess (I'll get that too!). The reason why i think it would be fun as a team tournament is that it would help build team spirit in fellowships ... commisserating or extolling as was fit.

I guess Fencer is doing the same in Backgammon, Checkers, pente and the inline things, none of which I play.

4. February 2006, 02:06:11
Chicago Bulls 
Subject: Re: Random games
Modified by Chicago Bulls (4. February 2006, 02:08:32)
WhisperzQ: White Maharajah, black Maharajah it doesn't matter. Both are boring. White you lose without being able to do nothing, with black you win easier than drinking a glass of water. Booooring....

And what about Grenv and Dark Chess? Why do you fear him so much? At Dark Chess there is one secret: Just observe the board with the edge of your eye! Why? It is known that in the dark, dim objects can be seen better when looking by using the peripheral part of the eye retina, so looking that way you may see a Bishop or a Knight walking at the board.....

4. February 2006, 02:57:19
grenv 
Subject: Re: Random games
Pythagoras: Speaking of fearing playing me, I note it has been your turn in both our Dark Chess games for a while.

4. February 2006, 10:44:15
nabla 
Subject: Re: Random games
Pythagoras: I also hope that I won't get any Maharajah game. But what is wrong with Knight Relay ? I find it to be a lot of fun.

4. February 2006, 11:20:43
Chicago Bulls 
Subject: Re: Random games
grenv: Yes sorry, but it has nothing to do with you. I just play only Backgammon/HyperGammon games right now(the last 5-8 days).....Before a week or so i was playing only Dark Chess and Backgammon. Now i'm in the mood for Backgammon only! But i started building my will for playing again Embasy Chess,Anti-Chess,Chess,Dark Chess so hopefully Monday i will start playing again all these games.....For the other types i'm currently playing(Pahtum,Chess,Chinese Chess,Extinction,Atomic,etc), i will be forced to play them since my vacation days will end.....
Sorry again i did you and all others waiting.....

nabla:I hate Knight Relay for no particular reason....! I don't like its rules....

4. February 2006, 12:20:16
Anencephal 
Subject: Re: Random games
nabla: I see you got what you didn't hope :-)

4. February 2006, 13:12:36
Bwild 
Subject: Re: Random games
Fencer: I take it, there will be a "random" rating?

4. February 2006, 13:31:47
nabla 
Subject: Re: Random games
Anencephal: At least I've got White, so I don't have to look into books. Damn, it looks like my opponent already has a draw by Nb8-c6-b8 :-)

4. February 2006, 14:34:21
Chicago Bulls 
Subject: Re: Random games
nabla: Yep, nice game right? LOL!
What books do you have in mind....? LOL!
The worse thing when you play Maharajah as white is that you feel like a wanderer in a desert! You are alone and can't do nothing, just wait to die! You just shuffle your piece without any reason and purpose.....

4. February 2006, 17:03:42
grenv 
Well, i got 3 games I've never even looked at, Legan, Horde (which seems silly - especially since i'm playing black) and Grand. I didn't get a single game of dark or atomic :(

oh well, more of a challenge I guess.

4. February 2006, 17:25:25
Chicago Bulls 
Well Legan seems a stupid drawish game while Horde of course is an easy white-wins game.....Grand though is a very interesting and good game.....!
Fencer you should extend the repertoire of available games here and modify the current stupid one's such as Maharajah,Horde(well actually this doesn't need a big modification if any, since black has a small chance to win or draw if white playes a bit carelessly).....

4. February 2006, 22:37:53
grenv 
Subject: Re:
Pythagoras: Legan is a little silly, but I'm not sure why it's any more drawish than chess. In fact the %age of draws on this site is about the same as the regular game. I don't even want to understand why white wins horde more often, but it seems I've drawn the short straw playing black against Fencer. Hmm.

4. February 2006, 23:17:12
Chicago Bulls 
grenv:Legan is a little silly, but I'm not sure why it's any more drawish than chess.

Many reasons but i'm too lazy for an in-depth analysis.....Just play it some times with a good opponent and you will see that you can only draw....


In fact the %age of draws on this site is about the same as the regular game.

You should not take this as an evidence of anything. Countless timeouts and too many weakies are the 2 reasons i can think.....

4. February 2006, 23:24:13
grenv 
Subject: Re:
Pythagoras: To lazy, or is such a disussion beneath you?
Since you've only played 2 games I'll guess that this is posturing rather than a statement with substance.

You timed out against me by the way, but somehow through the silly house rules managed to stay alive without appearing to have lost a vacation day. How is that possible?

4. February 2006, 23:24:40
Expired 
Subject: Re:
Pythagoras: You should not take this as an evidence of anything. Countless timeouts and too many weakies are the 2 reasons i can think.....OF

4. February 2006, 23:31:59
Chicago Bulls 
Subject: Re:
grenv: How is that possible?

It isn't! You should have missed something....?!?!

To lazy, or is such a disussion beneath you?
Too lazy..... But if you insist i will have to write it....


What is the other reason Reza? BTW can i call you Reza? LOL! I can't call you with this "thing" i see so Reza is good for me
Just teasing you nothing serious....

4. February 2006, 23:36:27
grenv 
Subject: Re:
Pythagoras: I won't insist, I'm not that interested actually.

I looked when you had 5 minutes to go and you had 14 vacation days. You still have 14 days vacation even after the time ran out.

4. February 2006, 23:43:13
Chicago Bulls 
I think you miss the fact that the decrease of the vacation days happens at the start of the new day.

That means at the start of the new day i had 15 days and then after 23:59 i had 14. But in that time i guess our game hasn't time out yet. That means every game it times out now and on the whole day from now on, my vacation days will remain 14 since the decrease already happened.....

That is a possible explanation that i didn't find from anywhere just from my logic to explain that. So don't take for granted all these.....

5. February 2006, 00:21:54
Expired 
Subject: Re:
Pythagoras: Reza is just fine.

5. February 2006, 00:38:41
Chicago Bulls 
Subject: Re:
رضا: I can think of.....LOL! Correct!
But can't i use it in the form i gave it....?
I mean: Is the: "It's the only reason i can think!" wrong......?

5. February 2006, 06:46:59
Expired 
Subject: Re:
Pythagoras: To the best of my knowledge, yes, it is wrong. Any help from natives?

5. February 2006, 07:49:33
grenv 
Subject: Re:
رضا: it's the only reason that i can think of.

5. February 2006, 08:04:29
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
grenv: I can think of a few others. :)

14. February 2006, 15:23:30
furbster 
Subject: Chess tournaments (all variants) for players under 1300
Modified by furbster (14. February 2006, 16:11:24)
http://brainking.com/en/Tournaments?trg=13693&trnst=0

[Tournament description added ... WQ :}

16. February 2006, 12:18:43
Pafl 
Subject: Extinction chess
Has anybody ever reached some sort of "endgame" in Extinction ? Or what was the longest game you've ever played ?

16. February 2006, 12:23:52
furbster 
Thanks i was in bit of a rush and didn't think to add it

16. February 2006, 13:40:50
nabla 
Subject: Re: Extinction chess
Pafl: Good question ! Of course a chess-like endgame is impossible in Extinction, but we could choose to call endgames all positions where both camps have only unique pieces except of pawns (that is, KQRBN v KQRBN). I didn't reach any here yet, but it doesn't seem an unlikely issue at all.
Now, many of the positions just after the last piece trade will probably be either simple forced wins, either dead draws with all pieces having to stay on their posts in order to avoid a breakthrough. Has anyone played an interesting "endgame" here ?

16. February 2006, 15:59:16
Pafl 
Subject: Re: Extinction chess
nabla: I have made it once to the A HREF=" ">http://brainking.com/cz/ArchivedGame?g=750636"> 30th move but only due to a series of blunders as me and my opponent were both rather pathetic players.
The most "endgamish" endgame I have ever seen is probably in this game of my friend Diogenes against Votacommunista. Only I do not quite understand the ending of the game which Diogenes should have won quite obviously.

16. February 2006, 16:00:08
Pafl 
uh ... sorry for the link :-)

16. February 2006, 16:00:18
grenv 
Subject: draw by repitition
How come this game isn't a draw? There's nothing in the Legan rules about repitition not being counted?

http://brainking.com/en/ShowGame?g=1372225

16. February 2006, 16:04:41
Luke Skywalker 
Subject: Re: draw by repitition
grenv: It isn't automatic. you have to request it from fencer

16. February 2006, 16:51:17
Chicago Bulls 
Subject: Re: draw by repitition
Luke Skywalker: Or just offer to Kipling one. He would obviously accept....

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