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13. January 2005, 13:03:01
Fencer 

13. January 2005, 13:08:00
cariad 
Don't hang about do you?

13. January 2005, 13:10:35
Fencer 
Why, would you prefer Tavli instead?

13. January 2005, 13:17:55
cariad 
Modified by cariad (13. January 2005, 13:18:10)
I always get burned at fevga! I'm not too bad at portes and plakoto though.

Is it on the 'to do' list?

13. January 2005, 13:21:20
Fencer 
Yes. But I must modify the system first, there are too many variants of some games.

13. January 2005, 13:23:48
cariad 
I bet there'll be a load of Greeks coming to the site when you do have tavli! Although portes is the most popular individual game, the set of three is regularly played in tavernas and the coffee shops.

13. January 2005, 13:28:06
Hrqls 
tavli = backgammon isnt it ? *ponder*

13. January 2005, 13:33:47
cariad 
Tavli is a set of three gammon games... portes, plakoto and fevga. They are usually played as a set for points. Portes is virtually the same as backgammon on here.

http://users.hol.gr/~mmagirou/

13. January 2005, 14:03:25
Hrqls 
ah thanks! nice games ... any experience with the one starting in opposite corners ? (#3 on that page)

13. January 2005, 14:19:31
Hrqls 
lol .. the hyper gammon bkr is showing above these posts .. :)

13. January 2005, 14:29:20
Hrqls 
Subject: first hyper gammon tournament
sign up : HERE

13. January 2005, 15:06:55
Fencer 
Subject: Re:
Hrqls: No more.

13. January 2005, 15:25:50
Hrqls 
ahhhhh :) fun game .. although a bit more dependend on luck :)

plays nice fast :)

13. January 2005, 16:13:24
coan.net 
HyperGammon

So far, after 50 games it is pretty even.

  • White won: 24 games
  • Black won: 26 games

  • 13. January 2005, 16:23:26
    Stevie 
    Nice game ( fast..how i like it) Shame i only found out aboput it by accident

    13. January 2005, 17:14:10
    Fencer 
    Subject: Re:
    Stevie: I wanted to run a small test. How many people would find out about it by accident?

    13. January 2005, 17:19:36
    Stevie 
    I thought tests were normally done behind the scenes on test site

    Youll be surprised how many dont read the game boards. I only found out cos I was invited to a game LOL

    14. January 2005, 01:04:06
    simplycreative 
    i don't get hyper backgammon (read the rules already)

    14. January 2005, 01:08:12
    skipinnz 
    Subject: Re:
    simplycreative: The rules are as per normal game of backgammon, only difference with the game is you only have 3 tokens not 15. Does this clarify for you.

    14. January 2005, 01:11:44
    simplycreative 
    Subject: Re: Re:
    skipinnz: that's it? geeze... *leaves in embarressment*

    14. January 2005, 15:27:41
    NikNack 
    I like this game hyper gammon. I am glad fenceer started. I hope that it will be a permanent game.

    14. January 2005, 15:30:58
    Hrqls 
    Subject: hyper gammon stats
    is there a way to find the average number of moves over all finished hyper gammon games so far ?

    and the minimum and maximum number of moves ? ;)

    14. January 2005, 15:37:09
    NikNack 
    well two of my games was 9 and one of them was 14

    14. January 2005, 15:41:27
    Hrqls 
    Modified by Hrqls (14. January 2005, 15:42:52)
    my minimum was 7 .. and i saw fencer has one with 37

    14. January 2005, 18:22:19
    Walter Montego 
    Subject: Backgammon variants
    I always thought Acey-Duecey was the only variant of Backgammon, and on this site it is about the only one that isn't on it! Any chance of getting it?

    14. January 2005, 18:24:08
    Walter Montego 
    Subject: Hyper in warp drive
    All hits, all the time.
    Is it possible to win in three or four turns with the right rolls of the dice? I have a game going with pgt that's already made it to move 20! Longer than some regular games of Backgammon.

    14. January 2005, 18:39:00
    Blackadder Mr K 
    Subject: Re: Hyper in warp drive
    How do you play a backgammon game in just 20 moves?
    Just running along is somehow missing the spirit of the game,,,,

    14. January 2005, 20:09:33
    Walter Montego 
    Subject: Re: Hyper in warp drive
    Blackadder Mr K:
    Regular Backgammon 19 moves no resignation all blots off, I lost the game:
    http://brainking.com/game/ArchivedGame?g=594012

    Hyper Backgammon after 21 moves, looks like I'm losing it on the next turn as I didn't roll what I needed:
    http://brainking.com/game/ShowGame?g=600158

    I'm not sure what you mean by the spirit of the game. Some games there's lots of drinking and partying at the bar, other games we just go on our merry way and pass each on the street. That's just how Backgamon goes.

    14. January 2005, 20:18:52
    Blackadder Mr K 
    Subject: Re: Hyper in warp drive
    Well,it looks like we look at the games in diferent ways,,,,

    14. January 2005, 21:16:49
    grenv 
    Surely the "spirit" of the game is trying to get your pieces off first! Fortunately the rules are such that the strategy and tactics used are not always obvious.

    14. January 2005, 21:19:21
    pgt 
    Subject: Re:
    grenv: The "spirit" of the games is the Dice God up in the sky who watches over all the games, and (sometimes) favours the bold and sometimes doesn't

    14. January 2005, 21:30:00
    grenv 
    Subject: Re: Re:
    pgt: All that religious nonsense doesn't obscure the fact that I just won your tournament through skill and application, with no help from Santa Claus or any other imaginary being.

    15. January 2005, 00:47:35
    Walter Montego 
    Subject: Re: Re:
    grenv: That's bull, you paid the dice guy more than I could afford. :)
    Lots of skill in getting double sixes when it's the only point open and you have two blots drinking at the bar and hitting one of mine one the way out.
    Congratulations on your tournament win. You pulled a rabbit out of your hat with this one. I had you pegged for third place at one time during it.

    15. January 2005, 16:14:02
    grenv 
    The skill is in calculating the correct bribe and still leave enough money for the other games.

    15. January 2005, 18:56:13
    Hrqls 
    no thats another game : pond :)

    16. January 2005, 20:28:38
    Chimera 
    Subject: Prize Backgammon Tournament

    16. January 2005, 20:28:45
    x7x7x7x7x7 
    Subject: Re:
    BIG BAD WOLF: Color makes no difference. It is the random nature of the opening move.

    16. January 2005, 20:29:28
    x7x7x7x7x7 
    Subject: Re: mens erger je niet
    Hrqls: Looks like the game "Trouble".

    16. January 2005, 20:39:48
    Hrqls 
    Subject: Re: mens erger je niet
    Modified by Hrqls (17. January 2005, 07:21:16)
    Rex Nihilo: could be .. i dont know 'trouble' :)

    'mens erger je niet' is translated into english as 'hey dont stress' .. or something like that :)

    its a game children play a lot, and which is cheated a lot in when grown ups play it together ;)

    its mainly backgammon for 4 players (6 can be done as well on a variant), all 4 players moves in the same direction (clockwise i think), they all have 4 pieces which start on their bar, and have to make it to the end (their home). they can only move from their bar when they throw a 6
    in 'mens erger je niet' only 1 die is used, and it isnt allowed to have more than 1 piece on a space (so no way to defend yourself other than to make it home as soon as possible, and to stay out of reach ;))

    but this could be changed to create some sort of multi player backgammon :)

    17. January 2005, 15:38:01
    x7x7x7x7x7 
    Subject: Re: mens erger je niet
    Hrqls: Check this out.

    http://www.hasbro.com/pl/page.viewproduct/product_id.9482/dn/games/default.cfm

    The geometry is a bit different, and it's "Pop'o'Matic", but it's the same basic Parchisi varient.

    17. January 2005, 17:38:15
    Hrqls 
    *nod* looks like 'mens erger je niet' :)

    wouldnt it be fun to have something like that if there was a multi player interface on here ? ;)

    17. January 2005, 18:59:52
    x7x7x7x7x7 
    Subject: Re:
    Hrqls: I haven't played that game since I was a kid. lol

    17. January 2005, 20:27:59
    Hrqls 
    lol the same for me .. so i could be a bit wrong on the rules ...

    but lets instead try to create a nice 4 player backgammon .. it could be something like that .. and would be a nice first variant to allow with multiple players i think ?

    (hmm maybe fencer wants to add new games for multiplayer instead of variants .. not sure .. ;))

    18. January 2005, 11:34:24
    Hrqls 
    Subject: Re: Re:
    Rex Nihilo: i should have looked this up sooner : Ludo ... its exactly 'mens erger je niet' as i know it

    18. January 2005, 11:46:33
    AbigailII 
    Subject: Re: Ludo/"Mens erger je niet"
    Hrqls: Strange. The rules of Ludo as described are quite different from "Mens erger je niet", as I have played on both side of the Atlantic. (Doubles? Penalty on three 6's? Another throw when taking an opponents pawn? Play dice in the order you want? None of this is in the rules of "Mens erger je niet")

    18. January 2005, 11:50:02
    Hrqls 
    Subject: Re: Ludo/
    AbigailII: oops ... i didnt read through the complete rules .. just watched the board setup, and noticed you started with 4 pieces in your nest and could enter the path when you throw a 6 ... thats when i stopped reading ;)

    i am back to studying i guess ;)

    (it seems today is not a good game for me to play games which i have to study ;))

    18. January 2005, 11:54:52
    Hrqls 
    Subject: ludo vs mens erger je niet
    triple 6 gives penalty - hey! thats unfair! never played that

    bonus for moving into home - new to me

    missing your home - impossible how we played it

    bonus when you capture another player - uh oh .. double nasty .. new to me

    doubles ??? cool!


    --- ok remove these rules and you will have 'mens erger je niet' the way i played it as a kid .. i think ;)

    21. January 2005, 11:26:53
    Antje 
    sounds like "mensch argere dich nicht! played that in germany, and bought it when i went to visit there last.. its fun!

    21. January 2005, 12:29:07
    Hrqls 
    thats the literal translation of 'mens erger je niet' ;)

    27. January 2005, 22:43:39
    ILOVENIRVANA 
    Subject: dice rolls in backgammon and varation games
    Are the dice rolls determined by a random number generator or something here? They seem to act much more different here than on another turn based game site which I will leave the name out of this post but I am sure many of you who read this will know who I mean. That other site the dice act strange to me.

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