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5. March 2022, 16:53:41
AlliumCepa 
Subject: Re: Autopass
pgt: Hear, hear!

5. March 2022, 16:50:37
AlliumCepa 
Subject: Re: Autopass
moistfinger: I second that.

22. December 2021, 01:29:14
pgt 
Subject: Re: Autopass
Walter Montego: Check "Feature Requests" 8 July 2011. This is not a new gripe, but from time to time I bring it up for old time's sake

21. December 2021, 13:00:44
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re: Autopass
pgt: Well, Mr. Negativity, if you feel that way why'd you even bring it up?

Perhaps you can try paying Fencer to do it for you? I have thought of doing this just to get some changes and also add the game Jump Checkers, but my heart is not into it. I'll just play here until it ceases to exist, or I find something better to do with my time. Hopefully I'll be able to escape the confines of my house if COVID ever stops being such a large part of my daily routine.

21. December 2021, 10:54:09
moistfinger 
Subject: Re: Autopass
pgt: try playing on dailygammon, it’s brilliant when it comes to auto passing etc. Unfortunately there are no hyper backgammon games there :(

21. December 2021, 07:13:59
pgt 
Subject: Re: Autopass
Walter Montego: I think that however we define the requirements, they will be completely ignored, and no changes will EVER be made, so we may as well stop wasting our time.

21. December 2021, 05:53:41
Clandestine 1 
Subject: Re: Autopass
Walter Montego: I am one of those who has doubled the cube from the bar, however, I like where your going with that option. It certainly would be less painstaking. 

21. December 2021, 00:55:43
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re: Autopass
pgt: I like your idea of having an option on your turn, though I'd let the option be available for a later roll in addition to the first time.

I know the frustration of having pieces on the bar and the whole of the opponent's home base is covered with a most beautiful prime and you have to roll the dice.

A pass button would be nice. Why roll the dice? Just have a pass button, and then it could skip until the next turn or also have an option for until a point opens for a chance to roll out.

Perhaps a "Pass this Turn" button, and also a "Pass all Turns until a Point Opens, and No Double Offer Made by Me in the Meantime" button?

20. December 2021, 21:17:16
pgt 
Subject: Re: Autopass
Walter Montego: I am aware of the possibility, but I am pretty sure that if you do not offer a double on the first move after you are blocked, then you will not offer a double on any subsequent move while you remain blocked. This logic is not too difficult for a competent computer programmer, and we can all attest to the fact that a competent programmer has implemented BrainKing. When you pass on the first move that you are blocked, it would be quite possible to ask "Are you sure? If so, autopass will continue until you are unblocked" or something to that effect, But I'm not here to design the algorithm, just saying that the existing implementation is unnecessarily frustrating and annoying, and with relatively little effort could be improved dramatically. (SIGH!)

20. December 2021, 17:42:51
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re: Autopass
pgt: Though there's other things I can find fault with in the implementation of the autopass, I have heard a justification for this. It is rare, but someone might want to offer a double from that position. I have had people do this against me. Apparently, when it has happened to me, the person didn't offer the double earlier as they were going for a gammon and I messed that up by hitting them. And there's other situations for it too, such as they forgot to double earlier. :)

Maybe you would never offer a double with a piece on the bar, but some people do it.

20. December 2021, 09:45:29
pgt 
Subject: Autopass
Why is the autopass system on this site so ridiculous? when I am blocked why do I have to roll the dice and then pass. How stupid!

30. November 2021, 01:47:30
Aganju 
Subject: Backgammon with Doubling Cube (quick tournaround)
There are a lot of tournaments offered right now, but I prefer to play *with the doubling cube*.
If you do too, and you like a fast game, please join here!

5. November 2021, 01:26:15
Clandestine 1 

19. October 2021, 19:30:29
Clandestine 1 
Subject: Re:
Aganju: I agree. And I’ve doubled from the bar many a time. I’ve also had doubles at the bar many a time, but that’s a different story ;)

19. October 2021, 14:50:28
Aganju 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Aganju (19. October 2021, 14:53:06)
moistfinger: Your idea is correct. I HAVE doubled from the bar before, not often, but not never either. It is a good play in some situations.
I wouldn't want this option to be taken away...

Note that if you CANNOT double (because the opponent has the cube, or it's post-crawford), it DOES Autopass.
So it is not an be-lazy-and-save-some-code-problem, in the contrary, it is doing it even more detailed and correct.

19. October 2021, 12:01:29
moistfinger 
Subject: Re:
pgt: It has been programmed that way in case the losing player would want to use the cube to double, even though they are stuck on the bar... I guess it could possibly happen but only extremely rarely, as in nearly never. A bit of a programming cop-out, I guess.

19. October 2021, 10:58:54
Dice Cheater 
Subject: Re:
pgt: It would seem obvious, doesn't it? Check out dailygammon dot com ...

16. October 2021, 09:17:02
pgt 
Modified by pgt (16. October 2021, 09:20:07)
The AUTOPASS feature for Backgammon is NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE! The implementation on this site is RIDICULOUS! After passing the first time of being unable to move, then it should be assumed that passing will continue until the player can actually move, Maybe the programmers are not up to making such a simple change.

15. June 2021, 10:26:37
pgt 
Subject: Very strange
Backgammon (pgt vs. Vinkel)

Can this be fixed?

5. May 2021, 01:23:18
Aganju 
Subject: Re:
Walter Montego: I just looked at the game that was listed - I do not see them either. this is worse than I thought; I agree it is unplayable. I have never seen that in any of my games, which is strange - I played hundreds f Plakotos, with the same size setting. Could it be the *color* choice?

4. May 2021, 20:30:23
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
rod03801: Though I can see the game with the setting set to the small board, I do like this view and I am going to resign when the first game of the match is over unless it is fix before that happens.

I have the settings back to the large board. Four or so points have disappeared from my view as my opponent has covered the blots.

4. May 2021, 19:24:01
rod03801 
Subject: Re:
Aganju: I cant speak to the fix. I was simply trying to provide a solution for the piece to be seen under current circumstances.

4. May 2021, 17:59:34
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
Aganju: Yes, the twenty second fix for Fencer. Rod's found post is nine years old. Perhaps this fix is not easy? Or maybe it has not received any attention?

4. May 2021, 14:28:03
Aganju 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Aganju (4. May 2021, 14:28:38)
rod03801: my guess is that a specific image is missing. If you look at the board where there is a blank, right click it, and it will give you the name of the (missing) image. This would make it a twenty-second fix for Fencer.

4. May 2021, 01:47:00
rod03801 
Subject: Re:
Walter Montego: You're welcome. I just remembered that I thought something similar had been brought up before. Used "Search in posts" and searched for Plakato here. It didn't turn up exactly what I thought. So I tried on the Brainking.com discussion board, too, as that seemed like another place it might have been. Sure enough, it was. My memory really wasn't THAT impressive.

I'm glad it helped solve the mystery.

3. May 2021, 20:35:57
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Walter Montego (3. May 2021, 20:36:25)
rod03801: Switching the Backgammon settings to the small board setting did make the Plakoto board show the pieces. I do not like the small board. I will finish this match, and then never play this game again unless this bug is fixed.

You found this message from 2012, rod03801? A long memory you have. Thank you.

3. May 2021, 19:31:36
rod03801 
Subject: Re:
Walter Montego:
This sounded familiar to me, so I did a little searching,

I found this discussion from a few years back, It could have something to do with your settings.

https://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=1&plla=1143797

I hope it helps.

3. May 2021, 19:13:43
Walter Montego 
Modified by Walter Montego (3. May 2021, 19:27:25)
I was talked into playing a match of Plakoto. I cannot see the points on the table that have two pieces on them of both colors. My opponent (Vinkel) says the table looks good from his side. I was going to resign, but he suggested to ask Fencer. So I am posting here as I do not know where bug reports go.

I also had this problem when I was trying to review older games Vinkel had played so I could get an idea of how the game is played.

Game ID number 8679109
Plakoto (Vinkel vs. Walter Montego)

3. January 2021, 15:15:30
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
Modified by Walter Montego (3. January 2021, 15:16:17)
Clandestine 1:

I just lost a game and match to five doubles in a row today.
Backgammon (Walter Montego vs. DavieBoy)
It happens. I have played my opponent over 1300 matches. This match hurt since he had won eight in a row prior, and I thought I had the game for the match when it was 75 to 45.
Sure it's bad luck, as is your case, but that doesn't mean something fishy has gone on to make it happen. Supposing the roles were reversed. Would you understand how lucky you had gotten?

1. January 2021, 15:40:47
moistfinger 
Subject: Re:
Clandestine 1: There's something very fishy about that player's luck.

31. December 2020, 15:38:52
Clandestine 1 
Subject: Re:
pgt:I didn’t realize it was marked private. 
The game was the final game to determine the winner of the of the match. I’m peeling my pieces off and only have 7 left (30 pip count), he’s still in my home, he proceeds to roll doubles 5 times in a row including three sets of double 6’s to win the game and match.  The only way he could have won was to roll 5 sets of doubles, and he does. 
Like I said, very talented roller. I see why he’s number 1. 

31. December 2020, 09:21:41
pgt 
Subject: Re:
Clandestine 1: Since this is a "private" game. what exactly are we meant to be able to see?

31. December 2020, 05:09:34
Clandestine 1 
Anyone ever see something like is?

Very talented roller!

20. August 2020, 15:34:05
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
Aganju: Yeah, like that. :) Nice stacks

20. August 2020, 14:26:15
Aganju 
Subject: Re:

20. August 2020, 14:10:51
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
pgt: Cash only, you know how mob guys operate.

20. August 2020, 10:30:02
pgt 
Subject: Re:
Walter Montego: Do you have his bank account number? (Post it here)

19. August 2020, 22:49:19
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re:
pgt: Better payments to the dice guy should take care of that problem. Try a tenner next time.

19. August 2020, 22:46:59
pgt 
Subject: Re:
Aganju: Thanks for that. I've sent a message to Fencer, so hope he still reads them!

I usually throw 2-1 or 3-1 near the beginning of the game, and then 5-5 or 6-6 when I have one counter on the final point. Any hints as to how to correct this?

19. August 2020, 22:43:34
pgt 
Subject: Re:
Carl: Yes, obnoxious is the correct word!!

19. August 2020, 18:32:58
Aganju 
Subject: Re:
pgt: looks like a nasty bug... contact Fencer in a personal message and ask him nicely, he might just fix it.

And in the future, don't roll 4-4 when you have only 1 checker left - it's a waste anyway... ;-)

19. August 2020, 14:44:45
Carl 
Subject: Re:
pgt: Yes i've played this person,very rude and obnoxious,

19. August 2020, 11:52:15
pgt 
Backgammon (walangpera vs. pgt)
I have borne off almost all my pieces (except 2) in this game, and have suddenly been given an eatra dozen or so pieces on the 1 bar. But if you look at the game, I have borne off 14 pieces. What's going on?

19. August 2020, 11:45:35
pgt 
Has anybody else had the misfortune to play against "Nice works". He/she has been a most unpleasant player

19. June 2020, 12:00:28
moistfinger 
Tell it how it is, LOL :)

19. June 2020, 09:50:57
pgt 
Subject: Re: Plakoto.
moistfinger: I think you used the wrong word - "Cheat" not "player"

18. June 2020, 16:04:43
moistfinger 
Subject: Re: Plakoto.
Carl: ilsta, pestope and pevepe are one and the same player .

17. June 2020, 15:24:56
Carl 
Subject: Plakoto.
Congratulations,we have a new No1(again). Plakoto (ilsta vs. pestope)

9. June 2020, 21:06:49
Anjil 
Subject: Re: Am I missing something?
Aganju: Thank you, I missed the part of needing to play the highest if both can't be used. Been playing for years and missed that totally! duh!

9. June 2020, 19:11:35
Aganju 
Subject: Re: Am I missing something?
Modified by Aganju (9. June 2020, 19:13:05)
Anjil:
After hitting him with the 3 (which I understand you'd love to do), you would not be able to play the 5 anymore.
The official backgammon rule says "you have to play both dice if possible, and if you can play only either one, you have to play the higher one" - in this case, the 5.

The rules on this site also list this, towards the very end:
"If it is possible, both dice must be used. It means that some pieces can become "frozen" in certain positions because making a move with these pieces would create a situation where the second dice couldn't be used.
If only one die can be used, the one with the higher number must be chosen.'

Too bad, but according to the rule...

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