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19. November 2003, 13:26:04
WhisperzQ 
Ug, did i read it right that the checker loses in perpetual check? Interesting thoughts are provoked by this ... is Shogi more aggressive in play?

19. November 2003, 13:31:26
ughaibu 
Shogi is much more aggresive than chess and yes you read correctly. I've been playing shogi for more than 20 years but I've never had a draw.

19. November 2003, 13:33:28
WhisperzQ 
There are many games where I hope for a draw ... bit like playing you in Tablut, but that is more a dream LOL :)

22. November 2003, 10:26:33
berengeria2 
Subject: Queening a pawn
I can't find it in the rules, but I assume you can Queen a pawn. Can anybody help? Thanks.

22. November 2003, 14:59:49
WhisperzQ 
Subject: Re: Queening a pawn
Yes, pawn promotion is just as in normal chess ... you can choose between Q, R, B or N.

22. November 2003, 16:55:05
berengeria2 
Subject: Re: Queening a pawn
Hi, Whisperz. Thanks.

22. November 2003, 21:09:29
grenv 
Subject: Re: Queening a pawn
Funny thing is I captured a piece on the 8th rank with my pawn (thus destroying the pawn) and i was still asked which piece I wanted to promote to. :)

22. November 2003, 21:46:01
berengeria2 
Subject: Re: Queening a pawn
I only just started playing. Mainly it's just becuase I just enjoy the explosions.
But obviousily there are numererous glitches in the programming.
But what the site managers partly appear to be trying to do here is to overcome the awful technical problem of setting up this kind of site.
No one has been able to do it yet. All the game sites, even the most established, constantly crash or otherwise scew up.
Personally, I am taking these people at face value - that they are trying to do their best - and that if they keep trying to do it long enough, it could work.

23. November 2003, 05:09:16
WhisperzQ 
Subject: Re: Queening a pawn
Grenv ... did you get the piece or was it promoted and then removed?

23. November 2003, 06:19:08
grenv 
promoted and removed. So effectively it didn't matter.

23. November 2003, 06:54:14
WhisperzQ 
So I would suggest there is no glitch here!

23. November 2003, 23:16:32
grenv 
well, a coupl of unnecessary clicks and page refreshes.

24. November 2003, 11:39:52
james goldsmith 
Subject: CHESS
SHOULD B MY MOVE

28. November 2003, 16:45:15
mangue 
Subject: Is stalemate possible?
Would a position like white king a8, black Kb8 + pawns a7 b7
be a stalemate if it is white turn?

Did this already happened?

Do you know some "atomic" chess problems you could post here?

Regards
M.

13. December 2003, 22:14:33
andreas 
Subject: Stalemate
Is stalemate possible in Dark Chess? For example, assume White has a King on h1, Queen on g6, Black King on h8. Black to move. In chess it would be a draw because of stalemate. However in Dark Chess it is legal to move a King into check so it is look like Black have to make a move and will lose. Does anybody knows how this situation is really handled on this site?

13. December 2003, 23:56:13
Kevin 
I'm pretty sure black would be allowed to move, and white would therefore (hopefully) win by taking the king next move. Considering there's no check or checkmate in dark chess, there is likely no stalemate as well.

14. December 2003, 00:32:52
grenv 
There is no stalemate. Draws are only achieved by agreement. Even King against King can be played out if the players wish.

14. December 2003, 00:49:46
WhisperzQ 
Subject: Re:
So one King could take another?

14. December 2003, 02:10:03
grenv 
Indeed a king can take a king. Quite amusing it is as well! :)

14. December 2003, 02:11:06
grenv 
of course it is customary to resign after moving your king next to the opponents king! So i haven't actually had the pleasure of making the capture.

17. December 2003, 19:42:31
mangue 
Subject: tournament 1801 started !
anti-chess just started! Have fun

18. December 2003, 04:12:45
Keith Graham 
Subject: Re: one more player to start tournament
I would join, Mangue, but I'm leaving on vacation in a week. Hope to catch a tourney soon!

18. December 2003, 11:41:47
Keith Graham 
Subject: Re: one more player to start tournament
Well, if it's ok to join even though I probably won't be online for about 10 days straight, I will, when I get that 14th slot free...

27. December 2003, 20:24:34
ughaibu 
I think it's very unlikely that this is a game in the competitive sense. It seems to me most likely to be a way to introduce complete beginners, probably children, to the moves of the chess pieces. The beginner of course takes black and the teacher white, shogi has a comparable teaching tool in which the beginner has a full set of pieces while the teacher has only a king and three pawns in hand.

28. December 2003, 12:30:05
ughaibu 
It's just occured to me that this could be a game if it's played in matches of one with each colour and the aim is to win in the fewest moves, (as black of course).

29. December 2003, 18:43:44
Caissus 
I have discovered that you can play this variant in real-time at the ICC,(http:// www.chessclub.com/) as 5,10 or 20 minutes game. But it is possible to play for free only as guest and without rating and name.
Even so it is a good training :).If someone wants to play such some short games please send me a private message.

31. December 2003, 05:29:57
Nasmichael 
Subject: Triad of Maharajah and Assassins
I agree with Gary's point-spread analysis, with a Maharajah and two non-royal "Assassins" to even up the score. I like this as a teaching game, with (as it currently stands) one piece having the ability to move as each piece of the opposing team. The fact that it is alone stacks the deck against it, but with two non-royal pieces with similar powers, it will allow for some danger for Black. I do think it should be modified to make it

In the absence of that, I like ughaibu's idea of set matches.

But I prefer the addition of two non-royals. A sharper game is needed.

6. January 2004, 22:43:18
BlackKnight 
Subject: Dark Atomic Chess
Wouldn't it be fun if we could play a combination of Dark and Atomic chess?

6. January 2004, 22:43:47
BlackKnight 
Subject: Atomic Dark Chess
Wouldn't it be fun if we could play a combination of Dark and Atomic chess?

6. January 2004, 22:57:00
Caissus 
Subject: Re: Dark Atomic Chess
No!

7. January 2004, 00:48:14
andreas 
Subject: Re: Atomic Dark Chess
The problem with combinations is that there could be too few people who will play them. For Atomic Dark Chess only people who likes both of them will likely to play it.

7. January 2004, 00:51:51
Kevin 
And Fencer also said that he doesn't want to create every possible variation, or it would be too hard to tell them apart - such as Dark Janus, Dark Gothic, Dark Maharajah, Dark Horde, Dark Atomic, Atomic Janus, Atomic Gothic, Atomic Horde, Atomic Maharajah, Dark Atomic Janus, Dark Atomic Gothic, Dark Atomic Horde, Dark Atomic Maharajah... (am i missing any?) :-)

And that's just the chess variations! (which, i admit, would be most of them).

7. January 2004, 08:20:06
WhisperzQ 
Kevin: yep, you missed ... dark atomic loop horde 3-check maharajah janus (chess)

7. January 2004, 15:13:19
grenv 
Dark Atomic chess would be silly and usually finish in about 3-4 moves. Just my opinion, I like both but wouldn't play the combo.
:)

7. January 2004, 17:14:36
mangue 
Dark Atomic would be silly, but there is no force win for white! I would play 1...e5 or 1...g5 randomly, then if pawn explode 2.. Qh4 and win ;)

By the way, I would rather play 3-moves dark atomic then 800-moves anti-backgammon !

Dark Maharajah would be much dumber, since white can physically not win !

7. January 2004, 18:01:33
grenv 
how about dark pente? :)

18. January 2004, 03:39:34
Backoff 
Is it just me, or does black have an advantage in most of the starting positions in corner chess?

18. January 2004, 03:59:57
LongJohn GZ 
Subject: Re:
well considering white wins 53.13% of the time, I assume it is just you LOL

18. January 2004, 13:21:21
Backoff 
This comming from some one who has never even played a game of corner chess....

well there's certain starting postions that each side has a clear advantage, just that most of them that I have played so far have been black.

19. January 2004, 02:17:05
ustica tnp 
well Backoff. starting positions its the same. but when i play white i fill more strong.. maybe becose i move first.. well speek for my self.

21. January 2004, 15:46:19
mangue 
Subject: stalemate
I had a stalemate :-)

21. January 2004, 15:55:56
grenv 
Subject: Re: stalemate
it's also private so the link is useless. What's the position?

21. January 2004, 18:07:45
mangue 
Subject: Re: stalemate
Sorry about that, I removed the link

Here is the final position:
White Kh1, Pc6 Ph6
Black Kh2 Bg1 Rg2 Pc7 Pe6 Ph7

But I admit it is not a natural position... I could have win before, was just wondering if stalemate exists...

21. January 2004, 19:01:10
grenv 
This is certainly a draw. In some versions of AC capturing the enemy king with yours is a draw. I think this is a good implementation. However even with the current rules this is a draw. Silly play by black of course.

6. February 2004, 11:41:30
mangue 
Subject: Stalemate
I am quite certain it is possible to stalemate in this game, but it certainly never happened until yet :-)

I tried a screenshot of a possible stalemate.

stalemate in extinction

Last move : 1. h6-h7 ; Na3-b1 stalemate

Since there is no "chess", stalemate is quite unlikely to happened.

12. February 2004, 23:59:36
jestone 
Subject: Interesting games #1
It appears there has been no entries in this DB for nearly 3 months now. So I suggest that we start a little series of "show 'n tell" of favorite or interesting games that we loopsters have played. I'd like to start things off with the following recently finished game of mine.


Click HERE to see it.

What makes this game so interesting to me was the tenseness of the battle. The beginning was rather bland, but around moves 21 & 22 I began to feel a lot of pressure. It kept building. Clearly the momentum was to my opponent’s favor. On his 30th move B@g6, I was getting concerned. 33. Rxh7+ made things look bleak for me. I had to sacrifice my Q now. About this moment or perhaps a little before, my opponent sent this message, “Hey, this is rather fun. Lots of play in the game. Thanks Trotter. Whats next?” To which I replied: “this isnt quite over yet. let's see.”

Then on my 34th, rather than capture his B to save my R, I counterattacked. And the momentum swung in my favor. A series of checks brought black back from the jaws of disaster. White did not answer my last check, allowing the time to run out. No matter, it was mate next move anyway.

Now, who’s next in line? Show us your favorite recent game.

13. February 2004, 00:08:40
Kevin 

13. February 2004, 00:16:04
Kevin 
<You type the following:

<a href=/game/ArchivedGame?g=253467>Text goes here</a>

and you replace the "/game/ArchivedGame?g=253467" with everything in the URL after "brainking.com". That way it works for everyone, whether they are using "brainking.com" or "www.brainking.com" or anything else. For external links, you have to replace it with the entire URL.

17. February 2004, 13:14:42
spocko 
Subject: Dark Gothic
what about Dark Gothic chess I think that would be good one to

18. February 2004, 20:19:41
oliottavio 
Subject: Dark gothic
is a very good idea, post that in a Feature requests discussion board

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