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13. June 2009, 16:32:08

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(V): '"windows" is not a Microsoft idea' : Windows is a valid MS product unless a court decides otherwise. The fact that the Mac OS was there before is immaterial, since Apple did not act on it. If there was a copyright infringement we would heve heard about it a long time ago.

'the customer has to buy a windows disk' : Well no, not in France, anyway. If you buy at a second hand shop a PC without a disc you can easily buy a new clean disc and install on it whatever you like: A MS product (Windows, presumably) which you can buy at a store for a certain amount of $$; or easily find a free, perfectly legal non-MS operating system, which you may or may not know how to operate. The third option, which is slightly illegal, is to install an unpayed MS product - at your own risk.

13. June 2009, 17:07:22

Mort

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rabbitoid: The windows idea was created by other companies for their computers, they just nicked the concept and called theirs "Windows".. Not just Apple, but Commodore and Atari were using similar ideas before Microsoft saw the light.

France only so far... this is why the EU came down on Microsoft. And why again for something that is supposed to be with the machine? I took Microsoft to task on this regarding a law they made regarding windows which stopped a laptop manufacturer keeping copies on the laptops restart disk after a certain period of time. They admitted fault and sent me a XP disk

So why cannot it be presumes that Windows came with a PC/laptop and replacements be free or for a small cost rather than having to pay a lot of money?

As to third party products... this is the point, to open up the market so the existing ones and new ones are available.

And I won't download a 'disc' that is so basic for the machine. Too much risk of things going wrong.

13. June 2009, 17:24:23

rabbitoid

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(V): Good luck to you against MS. As for me, I don't use their operating system because I estimate it expensive and vastly inferior to the free linux. Again, my estimate, my decision, and 90% of the computer owners don't think as I do. To each his own.

13. June 2009, 17:27:33

Mort

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rabbitoid: ?? It's already sorted. They admitted fault, thanks to the laptop makers sending me info.