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15. July 2008, 18:04:35
nabla 
Subject: Re: Doubles theory
wetware: Since I counted only two double 5s (the usual one and the former 22) instead of four, I probably missed twice 10 pips, so the grand total would be 336 + 20 = 356, and the average 9 8/9. Better ?

15. July 2008, 19:10:33
wetware 
Subject: Re: Doubles theory
nabla: Yes, very good.  And with just 1 die modified, I've finally come up with 8 5/6 pips per roll (in the range you expected).

16. July 2008, 23:04:30
Thad 
Subject: Re: Doubles theory
Ok, you sorta lost me there. Why are we changing the dice?

16. July 2008, 23:20:32
alanback 
Subject: Re: Doubles theory
Thad:Someone was caught using altered dice in a European tournament.

16. July 2008, 23:39:23
wetware 
Subject: Re: Doubles theory
Thad: No dice change here, Thad...as far as I know    :-)

I was just exploring the specific difference that would have resulted from the kind of cheating that took place, according to a news story that I provided a link to (below) a few days ago.

That news story wasn't too clear as to whether just 1 die or both of them were changed, nor did it specify how or when the change was made.

17. July 2008, 00:21:13
Thad 
Subject: Re: Doubles theory
Ah, yes, I read about that.

Novice question: Wouldn't having both players use the same dice fix that? The game would be fair even if the dice weren't. Or would that create new problems (other than breaking tradition)?

And as for my original question, the reason I mentioned it is because I was wondering if moving three checkers instead of four would make for an interesting variant. It seems like having to move three checkers would force a player to leave oneself open to a hit more often than when moving four checkers. That might balance out the higher pips per roll of doubles. I thought it would be an interesting variant.

17. July 2008, 00:23:48
alanback 
Subject: Re: Doubles theory
Thad:It would only be "fair" if both players were aware of the substitution, and were equally experienced in playing with the altered dice.

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