Purple: I dont think any posts are deleted automatically by a ban, maybe I am wrong?

anyway, doesnt fencer have the ability to find and read all posts even deleted ones, including private messages and on games as well?

Czuch: Well this is not really a place to talk about specific issues like this, but is a good time to remind everyone about the User Agreement, which everyone on this site should follow. This user agreement covers the whole site, even fellowships. Fellowship do allow for "relax the foul language rules", but does not allow the rest of the user agreement to be ignored.

Read the user agreement here: http://brainking.com/en/UserAgreement (A link can be found at the bottom of every page.)

Purple: When you ban, the posts are not all deleted. So a Moderator has to be careful to also hide them (so the bad posts are not seen), or remove the bad post. (would not be good to ban without doing something with the bad posts). Most moderators do a good job of coping the post to the event log - which logs everything that is done - - - and is recommended when a moderator does take action, to just copy & paste the offending posts so there is a written record.

A hide instead of ban so you have a record of what was said that can be reviewed by Fencer or The GM's and the violator can not claim that he "posted no such thing." If you ban someone are not all their posts deleted?

Czuch: Fencer, it seems that the Globals have the power to hide someones posts site wide, including the private fellowship boards, but they can only ban them from the public discussion boards.

Could you make it so either the site wide hiding doesnt include fellowship boards, or that they can actually ban someone from fellowships as well as public boards?

Personally, I dont think that the globals should have any say over private fellowships, so my preference would be to change the way the site wide hide works

..and for anyone who needs to be banned on all boards everywhere, then maybe they should simply be removed from the site by you all together?

Okay, here is the problem now... apparently this person has been hidden on all boards, both public and private fellowships, so they are still able to post and chat with anyone who is a moderator!!!!

Please, what is the purpose to hide this person when they should simply be banned?????

Could the Globs please fix this asap, or please explain why not?

Bernice: That sounds like the appropriate measure to me too!

Like i said earlier, hiding someone should only be done when you want a post to be modified, and you want the poster to do it themselves, and then to be taken of hide.

But lately, moderators have taken it upon themselves to edit posts at their own discretion, and they have used the hide option when they should be using the ban option

Czuch: in this particular case where violent threats were made against members and mods, a banning would be more appropriate....not necessarily a total banning from the site, but take away ALL posting rights....then if they are re-instated at any time if the person persists with the threatening ways, then ban him/her from the site.

Bernice: ... or maybe so the person can have a chance to edit their offensive posts, before they are taken off hide???

It seems silly to me sometime, how mods will use the hide option, when a ban is what is more relevant

Bernice: There is a difference between a hide and a ban. I am not sure what the purpose of just hiding someone is, maybe if you want them to be able to post and respond to posts, so that they can be seen after the hide is lifted???

if someone is banned from posting to the boards, why are they allowed to post but cant be seen...banned from posting should mean just that...
no posting at all
..nada...niente...none...zilch...zero........

Under the current system the only people who talk to him are the only people that are allowed to read what he has to say, so where is the "punishment"

Hrqls: I posted an item in the bug tracker.  My case was about Message box items, though--not discussion board posts.

Czuch: Rather silly to have that information about something you dont want isnt it?   LOL

Andersp: Okay, now that i have that figured out... I have to agree with you that it is past time for Fencer to remove any red numbers for posts written by someone who is on hide

coan.net: ahhhhhhh! i think you got it!!!

This board has about 10 moderators, and it appears that a couple of them are replying to this person, I just cant see them! LO , too funny to have someone on hide and keep up a conversation with them that nobody else can see, I think I will ask them to either stop talking with them or take them off hide

Thanks!

Czuch: It could also be that a person is hidden on the board by the moderator - still able to post, message shows up as new red number, but post is hidden from everyone except moderators.

Czuch: report it in the bug tracker with the mention of the time at which it occured and which board

Hrqls: Okay, now it looks like there is a person who's posts I am not seeing, but it doesnt show anywhere that i have them on hide? I tried an experiment by putting someone else on hide, and I could see them being hidden and it did not list anyone else? Something is amiss

Czuch: it could be that someone edited a message you already read (i think that is counted as a new message for the red number, but doesnt show as new when you read the board)

or that a mod or glob deleted one of the new messages

Andersp: I did think of that, but I checked and nobody there on hide either?

Czuch: Probably because you have people on hide?   Fencer has said it can be fixed, but thats only 2-3 years ago

wetware: Not that, but I am getting a problem with the red message numbers on some discussion boards.

For example, it will say that I have 6 new messages, and there are only 4

I know that time is suspended and why.
But shouldn't there be a red message somewhere explaining it? It used to show up, didn't it?

I am playing in about 60 ponds right now, some fellowship and some open ponds, for some reason there is one and only one pond that turns the red number telling me how many ponds I can move in to a blue color, does anybody know why?

That way here we've next discontinued tournament namely in boats plus (on 1 places end 3 players, that is why was gone only gold medal) from mastery BKR 07:

Medail table:

1. - 8. Dominika, Turkey, Czech Republic, Latvia, Southern Korea, Russia, Serbia and Sweden 1 - 0 - 0
9. Uganda 0 - 2 - 0
10. - 12. Germany, Poland and Guatemala 0 - 1 - 0
13. Slovakia 0 - 0 - 3
14. - 15. Belgium and Wales 0 - 0 - 1

tonyh: ie7 is Internet explorer, and ff is firefox

Internet Exploder 7
and
Fire Fox

ellieoop: What is 'ie7' and 'ff' please?

i think that the BK pages are a little bigger than some others, and consequently take longer to load. all the links, the pictures, and javascript all add to the load time. brainking has a lot of these kinds of things

I've had slow loads at other gamesites too. I don't think its only BrainKing.


At least for me.

beach: i went back to ie7 and play at night when there's not many ppl here and i sail right along, i luckily have not had any problems with slowness or pages not loading. when i'm on ff, it's slower and the pages are jumpy.

AbigailII: ah ok ... i know too little about that ... too bad .. i hoped i had a small escape in case .nl was inaccessable :)

Hrqls: They could be routed differently if they have the same IP address, and it could be they are routed identical if the IP addresses differ.

pauloaguia: true ... i remembered again how to lookup an ip address :

http://www.who.is/whois-nl/ip-address/brainking.nl/
http://www.who.is/whois-com/ip-address/brainking.com/

Hrqls: All BK sites resolve to the same IP address, except for BrainKing.info and BrainRook.com, I believe.

AbigailII: i wondered if they would have a different ip address .. if they could be routed differently .. but i know too little about that

Hrqls: Whether or not two addresses resolve to the same IP address doesn't say anything whether they are the same website or not. Some identical websites have more than one IP address, and a single box (using one external IP address) can host hundreds, if not thousands, of completely different websites.

Now, I would assume that the only difference between brainking.com and brainking.nl are just a set of language dependent templates, but stranger things have happened.

brainking,com isn't any better just took me 10 minutes to make a move have done it 3 times hit sumbit and site goes down, certainly frustrating this morning

rod03801: ah ok ... brainking.nl wasnt accesible .. but brainking.com was ... and then brainking.com wasnt either

is there a difference between brainking.nl and brainking.com ? do they point do different ips ?

rod03801: According to my FasterFox Add-on, this site is taking over 90 seconds to even respond (thats when i do not get the Connection was reset message or a white page), compared to just under 2 seconds on every other site i am logged into

Hrqls: I believe the site was just inaccessible for a couple minutes. I got booted for a minute or 2.

is there a difference betwen http://brainking.com and http://brainking.nl ?
i just couldnt connecto to the .nl one .. but i am connected to .com now

to all those people that i am playing against,i am going to be away for few days,as i am going to be a grandmother for the 3rd time,i hope to be back to this site by next week..
sorry for the inconvience.

Andersp: Oh, I also agree - but there is little that we can do since apparently it is not the site, but many many many users problems.

But a long time request that I would still love to see - a very very basic all-features striped off version of BrainKing - that is when playing a game, all the comes up is the game - none of the unnecessary things loading on the page. Yea yea yea... all those unnecessary things suppose to only take 1/24th of a second to load.... but something slows things down.

beach: Same here, it's frustrating with fisher clock games ... whereas i used to play a few hours before if i was busy i'm now forced to play at least a day or two before so i know they're ok .. only been bad for about 5 days here, but i'm the same as you and give up after 10-15 games.

Andersp:
I agree this is supposed to be a game site simple as that, and the speed to play games on this site is just awful lately, I usually just give up now, and all other sites work super fast so its not my connection or my computer

coan.net: I still think that an average player prefer a site where he doesnt need to spend most of the time "testing changes" to make the site move a tiny bit  faster.  

I wrote this back in March, and doing these things helped me a lot with the speed of the site:

Computers (coan.net, 2007-03-12 20:16:01)

Play with the different settings - find out what works best for you.

tonyh:
try playing the site as a pawn by turning everything of in java script and you be amazed on how much it speeds up

rod03801: Done the smileys bit - and it seems better.