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4. September 2007, 10:10:32
mangue 
well, I cannot tell if there is a force win. Probably not, but white has a terrible advantage. In my opinion.

However, I see your point, if black plays correctly, he must survive.


5. September 2007, 02:29:44
grenv 
Subject: Re:
mangue: I think you'll change your mind after playing some of the better players. I used to think white had a big advantage until i saw some of the counterattacking opportunities open to black in most lines.

5. September 2007, 09:32:11
mangue 
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grenv: the advantage of white still exists in my opinion and I believe it is bigger than in chess

5. September 2007, 10:05:17
nabla 
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mangue: I have to agree. While it might be true that the theoretical value of the best openings is not that bad for Black, the non-losing path is very, very narrow.
Even statistically speaking, White has so many dangerous lines that it is probable that one of them will be found to give him a big advantage. But maybe I am not versed enough in opening theory to speak.

6. September 2007, 02:34:30
grenv 
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nabla: I'm also not quite versed enough, it takes more of an expert than me. However I'd be interested in hearing what line you believe is so good for white and I'll try to refute it for black.

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