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16. July 2006, 11:54:35  I was on vacation when
I think it is a pity to reward people for the absolute number of moves per day. This encourages players to sign up for more games than they can possibly complete in a reasonable time, simply to ensure that they can continue to make moves all day and accumulate competition points. I am playing in one Backgammon tournament which at the current rate will finish about 2010 - and there is no guarantee that I will be alive then. (What happens in this case - would I "time out" - in more senses than one? - or does Branking have a web site in heaven where I could continue to play for eternity?) The slowest player in the afore-mentioned tournament is logged on most times when I view active players, yet he/she makes a move in the tournament about every 10 days. This is NOT a fun way to play. Could I suggest that a new bonus be introduced. Perhaps a snapshot of waiting games, where it is the players turn to play, could be taken at say midnight GMT. If a player makes a move in all of those games in the next 24 hours, he/she could earn bonus points - of say 20 for a brain pawn, 100 for a knignt, and 1000 for a rook. This might encourage players to sign up only for games which they have a reasonable chance of finishing before the end of the year - let alone the decade! 16. July 2006, 12:34:13 Subject: Re:  pgt: How about a system along the lines (counting for action points or not - you decide) When the game is over you win a number of points that equals the number of moves divided by the sum of all the time it took for you to make each move in that game (maybe take out a couple of the slowest moves to balance things when you go on vacations and such). It would give you a "moves per hour" type of statistic that, if published seperatly, could help others choose between slow and fast moving players as well. It wouldn't also matter weather you have many open games or not - your overall "moves per hour" rating would be more established if based on 10000 games, but would be just as meaningful if only based on a couple of games per month. Of course, it it added up to the action points, the more games you finished, the more points you'd win ;) 16. July 2006, 12:39:16 Subject: Re: pauloaguia: Yes, something along those lines would be worth following up. 16. July 2006, 13:32:57 Subject: Re: pgt: I am all in favour of awarding Action Points, based upon how quickly players make their moves. And in any formula, vacation days should be deducted. 16. July 2006, 13:36:40 Subject: Re:  tonyh: An algorithm of calculating a speed index of each player is already being developed. 16. July 2006, 13:40:20 Subject: Re: Fencer: Well done!!! That might make for interesting reading! 16. July 2006, 19:02:56 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day Modified by Walter Montego (16. July 2006, 19:03:41)  pgt: I like this daily "snap shot of waiting games" idea. Awarding a bonus for moving in every game that it was your turn at the start of the day would be a neat way to get a move in each game. I think a point for each game so moved in would be a good bonus. That way those with 15 games would get 15 points and those with 900 would get 900 if they could make at least one move in every game that day. 16. July 2006, 19:19:00 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day Walter Montego: *nod* i like it as well to give extra action points for players who have 0 left i which its their turn to move (i will almost never win those points though as i often leave a difficult position wait for when i have more time (usually in the weekend ;)) .... but that wont be with any gammon type ;) i also would love a time per move per game type statistic .. would be a very interesting statistic which can be used in various ways 16. July 2006, 12:29:22 Subject: Re: Modified by pgt (16. July 2006, 12:31:00) Marfitalu: The absolue number of moves is not the problem. It's just ridiculously slow players! 16. July 2006, 14:43:58 Subject: Re: pgt: of coarse you realize that slow players probably could care less about action points and therefore wont speed there play 16. July 2006, 14:48:05 Subject: Re: Vikings: of course. But fast players, may want to check their opponents "speed" before accepting a game with them. Heck, it may even be a filtering factor when creating a new game "Accept only players that make at least 1 move per day" 16. July 2006, 17:13:04 Subject: Re: Vikings: Problem is not slowness of play, it is usually number of open games. With 1000 games open it's almost impossible to play quickly in an individual game. 16. July 2006, 19:28:10 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day Marfitalu: :) thats nice as well .. it would mean you get more points when you have more time left in the games when you make your move its slightly bad though .. as it will give a LOT of points of players joining tournaments which give 30 days per move .. while fast players who usually join faster timed game will earn less points per move 16. July 2006, 21:04:17 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day  Marfitalu: Why does everyone complain about slow players? If you have a problem with someone taking 5 days to make a move sign up for a game with a 3 day limit. This will put your games at the top of your oponents list causing them to play you more often. People generally play within the time constraints and generally play the simple games and games with little time left first then the harder games and games with lost of time left later. I know people with over 1000 games active and they don't play slowly. If you are playing a game with 1 day limit they will play every day and if you play with 1 week limit they will play every 4 to 7 days. Conclusion the only reason you are fining slow players is you are playing games with to large a time limit. 16. July 2006, 21:09:21 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day mctrivia: my slow players are the ones in the tournament i am in i am waiting for 3 players to finish they are all playing over 100 games 16. July 2006, 21:16:46 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day juls31: Look at your time limits on some of your games. Most of them are 7 days with some being 14 to 30 days. As for your tornement it is also 5 day limit with weekends so 1 move per week needed. Sign up for games with 3 days or less and they will go much faster. 16. July 2006, 23:18:18 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day juls31: my slow players are the ones in the tournament i am in... THAT won't change anytime soon! [Upgrade;] ...i am waiting for 3 players to finish they are all playing over 100 games. i am new, and having been toasted, i choose my opponents more carefully, [although it would be a LOT faster with 'average WAIT per move']. have had many fast games with members playing about 2-400 games...;] good luck! 16. July 2006, 21:14:40 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day mctrivia: What you say may well be true, but I like the idea of having some type of speed rating or average. The amount of games a player has going at one time is not a consistant indicator of how often they make a move in a game. A speed rating would at least give you an indication of how often they move if it is something that is important to you that your opponent moves regularly in a game with you. People that move at a slower speed than a person wants to play at would be avoided in this manner. The slow person loses nothing when their opponent moves fast, but the fast person does if they want the game to progress everyday day or so. As for the "clearing your games each day" bonus that pgt thought up, this would incourage those interested in the action points to move at least once in each game that day to get the bonus points. One move a day is a pretty good pace on a turn based site and I think the idea warrants looking into. 16. July 2006, 21:19:01 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day Walter Montego: True there is nothing wrong with a speed rating. 16. July 2006, 21:24:28 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day Marfitalu: True if the person is online at the time and playing the game is done extremely quickly. But in general if you shorten the time limit the game will finish faster. As for fast movers I think in general the people at the top of the Most Active Users List are pretty quick players. 16. July 2006, 23:05:24 Subject: Re: Clearing every game each day Marfitalu:Sorry but there is really nothing to see with the time limit Exactly! if UNDER Time control in Waiting games- there were (average wait @ move)- Everyone could *see* the big difference between some fast players at a 7 day control, and some slow players with a 1 day control... The idea is to help players to find someone else who correspond more to play with. Good idea! average wait per move would enable players to match-up speed wise. |
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