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2. December 2009, 09:13:04
Mort 
Subject: Re:Follow the REAL evidence.
Artful Dodger: http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climatechange/science/projections/

"Climate projections

Because we can’t know the future for certain, our climate change scientists use computer-based climate models to project plausible scenarios, or projections, for coming centuries.

It is important to be aware that projections from climate models are always subject to uncertainty because of limitations on our knowledge of how the climate system works and on the computing resources available. Different climate models can give different projections."

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Climategate and Iraqgate..... ???

2. December 2009, 19:40:34
tyyy 
Subject: Re:computer-based climate models
Artful Dodger: "So that puts everything into question." And not just about global warming, but almost everything that "scientific studies" report.Global warming might be real, and air pollution and destruction of rain forests and dumping pollutants in the water is obviously bad, but these jackasses have done real harm. Harm to all the legitimate causes. The end cause doesn't justify the means. Reminds me of Nixon and his boys

2. December 2009, 19:45:00
Mort 
Subject: Re:The scientists have programmed the computers to ignore certain data while favoring other data all in the effort to support the global warming hypothesis.
Artful Dodger: Really.... mmmmmm

95% of the raw data is available for scrutiny from a global climate website. That the sun can effect our weather is nothing new.. it's not a 'new' idea, I learnt about it 20 odd years ago at school. I've read about the 'leaked' data... and that it was taken out of context..

http://www.uea.ac.uk/mac/comm/media/press/2009/nov/homepagenews/CRUupdate
It's the university website.

That we have an impact on the world.. nothing new. I don't know if you know about the times before clean coal was only allowed to be burnt in London. Heavy fogs mixed with the fumes of coal fires could kill. We polluted the Thames river so much that swimming in it could be deadly.

So.. that 5% read the university website.

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