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26. September 2009, 03:28:30
gogul 
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Artful Dodger: I don't know enough about him. Anyway, somebody who critisises the courrent ways in economy and politics isn't a communist or socialist or what ever per se. The freemarket ideology is a failure, this is something I insist on and it does not make me a radical to say this. The problems for working and environment are simply outreagous. Freemarket ideology = criminal energy.

26. September 2009, 03:30:12
Papa Zoom 
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gogul:  Van Jones himself called himself a communist. 

26. September 2009, 03:37:07
gogul 
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Artful Dodger: Really? I wouldn't have done this

Capitalism needs regulation, or it's getting out of hand, to the disadvantage of normal people. No regulation on regional scale, at the level we have an eye on each other, why not. But soon as politicians and businessman hide from the public, I'm in fovor of regulation with help of the prison.

26. September 2009, 07:46:26
tyyy 
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gogul: Everything in moderation, never lock step to one side or the other , i like to say,, but Van Jones is not needed as he smeared himself too many times.Not a good man he is.

26. September 2009, 13:01:54
gogul 
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Modified by gogul (26. September 2009, 13:04:13)
GTCharlie: GTCharlie: I can't evaluate it. Same with Beck btw. I probably like the provocation as well as these both do, that's why I looked up with this "a"-case.

A Beck can do and say what he wants, even if it's to propose a 7 year old girl to buy her a one way ticket to Africa. Cheep one. Over here the pharma industry has a unacceptable governing power, banks do/did. That's the dimension I miss well placed provocations. Lobbyism, that's enrichment at expenses of the populace, that's profiteering with full awareness, that's the declaired wish to treat us like a sponge. What did Beck, organising a demonstration of the tax payers? Pleeeeaaaz you feel good paying taxes? Aaaah I'm a good citizen I pay tax lol Civil disobediance is my recommendation for the next years, I'm gaining experiance with this myself. You can't change anything in health care as long as as you persuade youself that elected decide indepenently. Politicians need to live at an average level, something like 50K imo

26. September 2009, 13:17:41
Mort 
Subject: Re:Everything in moderation, never lock step to one side or the other , i like to say,
GTCharlie: Exactly.. I don't trust a party because they are right or left. They have to earn my trust by their actions.. Words they can use a plenty.. they are good at that

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