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9. June 2007, 22:15:08
Family Man 
Subject: "Family oriented" Video clips?
This is a continuation form a discussion on the music board, where the moderator asked us to move it to here instead.....

With the recent talk about this site being designated as a "family oriented" web site, and the recent edition of music and other videos being uploaded to public boards from youtube et al, some are wondering if this is appropriate for such a family oriented site?

Some parents do not allow their children to watch any music videos at all. So even with them being moderated, is it even possible to not offend someone? I mean even talking about bear hunting was considered an unacceptable topic, so how long before videos will cause a stir?

9. June 2007, 22:26:12
Andersp 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?

Family Man:


I guess i was the one who started this "video worry".


I just wanted that all videos should be approved by either Fencer or a mod before they are posted, but the mods seem to prefer taking action afterwards.


I posted this on the music board:


 ..If you are under 13 years of age, then please do not use the YouTube Website—there are lots of other great web sites for you. Talk to your parents about what sites are appropriate for you.


those lines are from You tubes user agreement


9. June 2007, 22:41:50
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Family Man: If kids want to go to utube and watch the videos they are gonna do it anyway. They don,t have to come to a game site to do it.
The only way to stop them would be to close the internet down altogether.

9. June 2007, 22:47:17
Andersp 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Mousetrap: So you mean that Fencer doesnt need to stop 'bad videos" because kids can watch them on other sites anyway?

9. June 2007, 22:53:36
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Andersp: I think most people on this site are good people and I cannot understand why you would think anyone would want to post bad videos anyway.

9. June 2007, 22:55:39
Eriisa 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Mousetrap: I agree. I have not seen any inappropriate video links posted in well over 2 years.

9. June 2007, 22:54:18
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Modified by AbigailII (9. June 2007, 22:54:36)
Andersp: Could you define "bad videos"?

9. June 2007, 22:57:34
Andersp 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
AbigailII: Bad videos are the videos i dont want my kids to watch, and even if Moustrap prefer to not belive it im sure there are people on this site who could post such videos

9. June 2007, 23:05:05
AbigailII 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Andersp: Bad videos are the videos i dont want my kids to watch,

So, Fencer is suppose to know what you find appropriate for you kids? How about my kids? How's Fencer supposed to know what I find appropriate for kids to watch? And for the other millions of parents out there? There's no universal rule of what is considered 'bad'. In the USA, it's consider 'bad' (illegal even) to have a beer a week before your 21st birthday, and if a nipple is show for a fraction of a second on TV all hell breaks lose. In many countries in Europe, it's considered bad to drive a car if you're 16, or for everyone to be able to buy a gun.

If you think your kids should not have the smallest chance to be exposed to certain materials you find questionable, don't let them lose on the internet without you watching over their shoulders.

9. June 2007, 23:09:02
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Andersp: Well they could yes, but I could post a bad video of me singing very very badly but it does,nt mean to say I want too lmbo!

9. June 2007, 22:58:04
coan.net 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Andersp: Thing is, where do you draw the line. The thoughts and posts of other people can be very unappropriated for kids, so should Fencer & mods also approve all posts?

The moderators of the Music board is doing a good job in getting a few extra moderators to help watch the board, along with the global moderators who will also be keeping an eye on the board. And I can tell you as a global moderator, if someone does try to push the limits of posting bad videos - we will not have to think twice to take away the rights to post to any board. So hopefully no one will try to push the limits, but if someone does - it will not be long before they will not be heard from again. And since pawns can't post video's, we also don't have to worry about someone creating a free pawn just to continue to post their bad videos.

But this is a fun interesting new feature... which in a few weeks, I would guess it will be down to a small handful of users who will be posting video's regularly.

9. June 2007, 23:01:55
Andersp 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
coan.net: If you expect it to be only a handful of user who are posting, why is it so difficult if Fencer or a mod approve the videos before they are posted?  Fencer approves the pictures we are using in our profile. I dont understand why this should be such a problem.

9. June 2007, 23:05:01
Fencer 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
Andersp: No, that would be a problem. The board system will remain as it is. Including the Music board and videos.

9. June 2007, 23:05:10
Family Man 
Subject: Re: "Family oriented" Video clips?
coan.net: You are probably correct, and this is much ado about nothing.

Its just that when you allow minors on a supposedly family friendly site watch videos that even the originating site says is not appropriate for kids under 13, then you obviously risk losing your endorsement as a family site.

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