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23. December 2003, 12:35:30
zenit 
Therefore an human observer is needed who can judge such cases whether its cheating or not.
And public can observe, and when someone is suspicious, the case is just forwarded to the responsible person in staff.

23. December 2003, 12:33:38
zenit 
Like I said, as soon as they dont play toghether frequently and clearly letting the other one win, this is no danger. Perhaps they can play at home
together as well :)

About the IP changing I wrote before, like I said, they will never get the feeling they are really great players if they will need to be cautious and always ensure themselves this way how poor they in fact are :-)

23. December 2003, 12:32:10
noholdsbarred 
Subject: Re: Ratings and Cheaters
They only cheat themselves.... It is not illegal since they gain no advantage.

A high BKR earns nothing, no cash and only respect if they can back it up byt beating you.

There are some people who while not going to those lengths nurse their BKR.

Let them... they do no harm and if it makes them feel better .. fine...

23. December 2003, 12:29:48
MadMonkey 
Subject: Re:
The trouble of monitoring things like that is that anyone that knows enough about computers and systems can change IP address's so it is not very easy at all. Fencer has found a few though. Then of course there is also that more than one person in a house could be signed up for BrainKing or they could be using a public computer.

23. December 2003, 12:23:03
ughaibu 
Couldn't a feature be added whereby all accounts stemming from the same source appear parenthetical to any account being viewed?

23. December 2003, 12:20:30
zenit 
Subject: Little Addition
Perhaps someone from the staff should be watching such abuses. Plain multiples arent that bad thing, but if someone uses them to spam boards (sorry Dano) or creating artificial ratings (Joking or someone in chess mentioned earlier), they should be coped with.

As their opponent I would probably resign games with them and add them to my noplay (enemies?) list, perhaps an invisible list would be even better, for such bloody cheaters dont distract me in rating lists :-).

And I am sorry I brought it up so close to Christmas. Merry Christmas to everybody!

23. December 2003, 12:09:45
zenit 
Subject: Ratings and Cheaters
<What do you think about players like joking, who are artificially creating high ratings using multiple accounts? This one is a special case though, because he is also a pretty good player (five in line).
But what he does really [edited] more and more. Just look at it: there were created accounts like renjuplayer, niicegiirll; perhaps others used to collect rating points from various opponents, and transferring rating renjuplayer -> niicegiirll occassionally. Then there were created target accounts like joking and blade2004.
Those pick mostly weaker opponents or opponents tested before and again transfer rating renjuplayer, niicegiirll -> joking, blade2004.
I think their rating should be reset and they should be allowed to gain it by fair play rather.
Of course, this is perhaps thought for a start, perhaps he plans to play strong opponents further and this he only uses to get good starting position.

If you dont believe, just watch their game times when they "played together".
And watch their login times by adding them to friends or looking to database.
As most of the accounts log in pretty close together, its pretty clear to see.
Measures to prevent such cheating behaviour are hard to create...
Perhaps players with same IP address shouldnt be allowed to play together.
Of course IP can be framed, but at least they will see they need to put more effort
into it, and they will never forget they are really cheating.
Or people should report such abuses when they spot it, and warn opponents of such
players they are only helping someone to create rating base.

Such behaviour might cause some players to lose appetite of playing.

Excuse, if I cause some bad atmosphere but I cannot keep it for myself any longer.

23. December 2003, 06:28:46
Bernice 
Subject: 8950:)
have searched the entire membership, all 8950 of us :) for Australians, Kiwis, Poms (all varieties) hehehe and have sent invites to the fellowship for all of us Prisoners and ex-prisoners...If i have missed anybody please just ask to be invited :)
Sorry Harley, I didnt know where to post this :)

23. December 2003, 05:22:50
Bernice 
Subject: thank you
Harley and Ughaibu :)
Harley your idea was good but it doesnt have flags next to names :(

Ughaibu your idea was brilliant
http://brainking.com/game/PlayerList?bms=50&a=ap
and i changed it to
http://brainking.com/game/PlayerList?bms=2500&a=ap

voila.....page 51....thanks so much :)

23. December 2003, 01:33:34
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Rose
Try www.translator.cz.

Or try me...;-)

22. December 2003, 16:55:01
Stevie 
Bwild has been in the BK wine cellar ;oÞ

22. December 2003, 16:53:26
bwildman 
ooopps...billion dollar baby

22. December 2003, 16:50:01
bwildman 
Subject: Re: Czech to english translation site
"rats in battalions..clogging up the mainstream" ;)

22. December 2003, 16:40:16
grillyx 
Subject: Czech to english translation site
don't seem to have a lot of takers for this question rose. but i remember when i was at school i found out that "cerny sabat" was czech for "black sabbath". that's all i really needed to know at the time.

22. December 2003, 16:20:36
bwildman 
took me an hour to get on this morning...but seems fully functional now..

22. December 2003, 16:10:03
unbeatableking 
Subject: hi
i repetitively keep geting the "server not found" message a lot in this site. can someone help me?

22. December 2003, 16:04:54
bwildman 
we've been scanned!! LOL;þ

22. December 2003, 15:45:01
Niki 
major problems in the last hour.. but all back to how it should be again now :)))

22. December 2003, 15:42:23
Stevie 
there's always one LMAO

22. December 2003, 15:39:29
Radiant2008 :-) 
No probs for me this morning :-) I came here around 9:30AM - but hope the probs for others will resolve soon :-)

22. December 2003, 15:33:55
Antje 
yepp, its been difficult getting around here today

22. December 2003, 14:38:37
harley 
I'm having a lot of trouble too with server not found pages, and pages not loading in properly.

22. December 2003, 14:09:03
Linda J 
Who cut the lights out.My background is very dark.I'm having trouble moving around.hehe

22. December 2003, 13:59:39
Stevie 
I am getting server not found pages :o( if its just me ignore, if others too, this will let Fencer know

22. December 2003, 11:52:57
Fencer 
I am also preparing a new way of searching, there is still one unused menu item in the left column :-)

22. December 2003, 11:06:36
harley 
100degF, I found a great way of finding paying members is through the 'most active player' list on your main page. Where it says who the most active player is, next to their name will say (more). Click on that and you get a list of every member who made a move yesterday! :oD

22. December 2003, 09:45:01
xsxsxs 
Subject: Lucky you
Any condition else would be lethal for your anaerobic jabber.

22. December 2003, 08:30:52
ughaibu 
Try changing the number in the address bar, 50 per page.

22. December 2003, 07:40:10
Bernice 
Subject: Fencer :)
Impossible ask im sure.....I have just started a new Board....Kiwi/Aus/Pom Connection in which im inviting only the above.... i have just gone thru 50 pages of members trying to find paid up people to join. I just had to close down on page 50 and when i came back i couldnt get to 50 again without going thru all the other 49......or am I stoooopid and there is an easier way?

22. December 2003, 03:14:44
xsxsxs 
Subject: goonerg
who called you? fan off fart, this is a matter of solids.

22. December 2003, 02:27:04
xsxsxs 
Subject: After this creativity eruption of blablas
I suggest you return to your daily valium and alcohol dose
and don't bother rhetorically adults with ancient figures that
you do not understand anyway. Aniously awaiting the next
unfortunately unveiling supproters of gothprick's cheats. idiots.

22. December 2003, 00:41:29
xsxsxs 
Subject: Feature Request Board
The new medieval fiddle ambiente.

Particulary blunt Fencer's remark about non-paying
members after that thief uses to embbezzle the money.

Spammer Attack as reason for restricted registering ? LMAO.

let's better say on demand of the to be protected gothic cheater
the czech prostitute - although realizing that she was
screwed for free - continues accompliceship to cover an own
major role on manipulating lost games of the perpetrator away.

The only one responsible for IDs undermining anti-reporter war
is Gothprick the CheatInventor as we all know - fiddling is futile.

22. December 2003, 00:35:44
xsxsxs 
Subject: Sherlock Humbug
is managed by Scarlet Rose. Dano appreciates.

21. December 2003, 12:03:35
Backoff 
Don't forget about Sherlock Humbug

21. December 2003, 09:39:51
noholdsbarred 
Subject: Re:
Sounds ominous.... could you move inter fellowship team matches up the agenda

21. December 2003, 09:06:56
Fencer 
I plan to make a fellowship reorganization.

21. December 2003, 08:44:14
coan.net 
Subject: -- Lost Fellowships --
Are there any plans to remove fellowships where the BigBosses are no longer active - or at least possible put those fellowships up for "auction" or other members to possible take over and run?

The 2 that come to mind for me quickly are The Dream Team and Gammon Geeks, but there may be more, and I'm sure there will be more sooner or later.

21. December 2003, 08:44:05
ughaibu 
I had at least one for everybody I've ever played I think.

21. December 2003, 08:35:41
Bernice 
yeah right...did ya have one for me....or just upset ya Bk games page LOLOLOL

21. December 2003, 08:34:09
ughaibu 
The problem was it carried on snowing.

21. December 2003, 08:03:25
Bernice 
Subject: Re: Kevin KM
ughaibu.....DRUNK???? you told me you were only drinking to get energy to shovel snow....?

21. December 2003, 07:53:34
ughaibu 
Subject: Kevin KM
I see, thanks. I guess I must've accidently clicked it the other night while drunk.

21. December 2003, 07:39:33
Kevin 
Try clicking on the link "Time left" again...that should do it :-)

21. December 2003, 06:28:53
ughaibu 
How is it that the my-move games on my main page are now upside down and is there a way for me to change them back?

19. December 2003, 05:04:21
Linda J 
That's great Brian,you'll enjoy all the fellowships and tourneys you can enter now.

19. December 2003, 05:02:01
cya peeps 
Subject: Brian
Fencer is pretty good at getting to these things as soon as possible. Have fun at the games. :)

19. December 2003, 03:43:48
Brian1971 
Subject: Re:
I tried it and it went through. The confirmation said I should be upgraded within 24 hours. I hope so.

19. December 2003, 02:06:48
Eriisa 
as long as it has a Master Card, or Visa logo, you can use it.

18. December 2003, 23:52:39
Linda J 
Subject: Re: Payment question
Yes you can,that's how I payed with a debit card.

18. December 2003, 23:49:59
Brian1971 
Subject: Payment question
I do not have a credit card. I do have a check card which doubles as a debit card. Can I use this to pay for a membership on this site. I want to do it online.

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