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23. February 2004, 19:32:29
bwildman 
Subject: that a shame,Linda
of the 31 contestants in my prize tourny..14 are pawns.But there was no charge to join.

23. February 2004, 19:29:29
coan.net 
I agree with what Fencer said also. This is a game site.

I personaly did not pay my membership to just play games here, because there are plenty of other places I can just play games. My membership was paid for the "extras" that are above and beyond just the games.

Suggestion: If I was a new pawn to this site and had a question, I would not know to go look for customer service people on a different site! Could there be a way (like an option on the left side) to "contact customer service", or "ask a question to customer service" that pawns could use? Then have the question possible go to the "Customer Service Discussion Board" where it could then be answered and/or delt with.

OH - And something I know I do not say enough: Fencer, you are doing a GREAT JOB with the game site! Your hard work is appricated!

23. February 2004, 19:20:54
Linda J 
Good point Fencer.
Pawns have a lot of chances to play here for free.
Members have been quite generous where they are concerned.
We have the boost a pawn program and now a prize tournament where they are almost guaranteed a membership for almost nothing only 3 have taken advantage of it. Very sad I think.

23. February 2004, 19:20:31
bwildman 
I'm not offended,Carlos...and I dont mean to offend Fencer either...but someone needs to be realistic here in cyberland.
Yes...this is a gamesite...one with some extremely talented players.But it is also turned into a cyber-community...were friendships have been formed.
Its the discussion boards and the fellowships that make BrainKing different from other sites.
Its a shame,Fencer, you dont get paid to run this site and play games and moniter discussion boards..but eventually,I'm sure there will be a paid BrainKing.com staff.
But removing features that were once there,features many of us have paid for...seems to be taking steps backwards and not forwards.
I guess I'm playing the devils advocate here...but in order to remain positive...sometimes you have to ask about the negatives.

23. February 2004, 19:06:49
Caissus 
Subject: Re:
It`s my opinion, too!

23. February 2004, 19:03:34
Fencer 
Thank you Carlos.

23. February 2004, 19:02:37
CaoZ 
Subject: Re:
I totally agree whith you Fencer, and to remark this is a GAME SITE, i see that most of the players are more concerned to chat and not in to play. Its not my intention to offend anybody, but take a moment to think ¿What its the escential of a GAME SITE???

Carlos

23. February 2004, 19:02:33
Fencer 
It seems unfair to me that I am not paid for this work. And do I complain about it?

23. February 2004, 18:59:31
bwildman 
try dropping the discussion boards..and see how long your members stick around.They are as much a feature as the games.Especially the fellowships.
It just seems unfair to me,that people want to discuss their future...and they have no input.

23. February 2004, 18:46:45
Fencer 
What's the problem with pawns unable to post on most of the boards? If they have a problem, there is our customer service on BrainKing.info. And I don't think that $10 is too much to get extra features.
This is mostly a game site, not a chat site. Discussion boards are just an addition.

23. February 2004, 18:07:10
coan.net 
Fencer is the final person to decide who is bad or not.

I have not seen any bad paying members for awhile (and when i say bad, that is spam message boards & curse and such). Currently paid members are easier to control, where as a pawn could keep creating new accounts and causing the same trouble over and over. (1 bad apple.)

Fencer will have to answer about the updated version 2.0 - and if it is still going to be awhile, it might be an idea to at least open 1 or 2 of the main message boards to pawns so they can at least post any problems or questions they have.

23. February 2004, 18:01:41
bwildman 
but getting back to the pawn issue...there are bad paying members! who decides who is bad and who's not?
the 2.0 version has been promised for sometime now..and no definete date in site! So how mch longer canwe use this excuse?

23. February 2004, 17:50:29
harley 
I'll be steering you two over to the fellowship board if you're going to name EVERY fellowship!

23. February 2004, 17:44:48
bwildman 
LOL...their getting dusty!

23. February 2004, 17:42:15
coan.net 
... and The Cave, and the Sunshine Club, and the Power House, and the ...... (HEY - I did not mention any of my own fellowships either!) :-)

23. February 2004, 17:38:52
bwildman 
oh sure!! dont mention The Cave!! LOL:)

23. February 2004, 17:28:35
coan.net 
It may be that I understood wrong, but once BK 2.0 is out, Pawns will once again be able to post - I think it is just a temporary thing until Fencer can "control" some of the "bad pawns".

My personaly feelings about pawn accounts.

1. This is a game site, and I don't think the basic of game play should be messed with for pawns - that is up to 20 free games at a time, and 1 tournament at a time.

(and some of the changes I would like to see):

2. For non-tournament games, pawn can only play non-rated games. The purpose of this is to stop people from cheating - making free pawn accounts to help their ratings. Yes, there are plenty of good pawns who do not cheat, but in my opinion the result is better for the game site as a whole.

3. Tournament games that pawns play in can be rated. I'm still debating if (or if not) their ratings should be hidden, or shown - or including in the main ratings list, or not shown, etc....

4. I would like to see a pawn be able to join 1 fellowship as a "junior member" - that is they can see what is going on, read the message boards - but NOT join a team and NOT play in their tournaments. A few of the fellowships (Home, Madhouse, etc...) could be a very good way for a pawn to see what goes on in a fellowship and possible be a reason for them to become a paid member!. (Also with the rule that a pawn can not jump from fellowship to fellowship - but pick one - maybe have a choice of a few that the BIG BOSSes would like to help pawns, etc...) So all the pawn is really getting is another message board to read, but a chance to talk and interact with many of the nice users in these fellowships!

OK, that is all i can think of now. If a pawn is reading this and has other ideas or thoughts, you can send me a private message, and I can try to pass along your thoughts (even if they do not agree with mine!) :-)

23. February 2004, 16:44:47
bwildman 
Subject: getting back to pawns...
we all know the pawns can read the boards,and yet people talk about them like their not here.
I think not allowing them to post on the public boards is a blackeye to the system...and I for one,would be interested in what several have to say on the different topics that are onesidedly brought up concerning their future with BrainKing.

23. February 2004, 14:09:09
Stevie 
How do you know LJ, pawns cant post, so may have been having probs but couldnt say , and theres probably a few who do not use the boards ;o)

*edited by Steve so LJ post looks silly now* ;oÞ

23. February 2004, 13:30:11
MidnightMcMedic 
Maybe he does. Or maybe its not an uneducated guess. Never can tell....

23. February 2004, 08:12:49
Bernice 
Subject: ??
""It is currently accessible from all countries""

how would LJ know that , or is it an uneducated guess..I must admit i am confused.
LJ often states that ALL of this is right or wrong etc....it give the feeling that he has inside information that the rest of us dont have :)

23. February 2004, 07:36:51
Lythande 
On occasion, the country does make a difference... on others it could be the city or even that street. It depends on the route taken and the hardware along that path, as well as your own machine and the server(s).

23. February 2004, 07:01:57
Stevie 
Ive had probs before that have not been bk nor my system, its been my isp lost dns somethings, and gave me limited use on websites, so was ok on main pages but couldnt get any deeper etc.
I guess this means Ellie could have had a bk problem even though others in other countries didnt :o)

23. February 2004, 06:59:41
Bernice 
OH??...Fencer has had a name change:)

and Im sorry i didnt realize that the message was an old one..your reply ""FENCER"" aka LJ was 15.51pm (my time) and it is currently 15.59 :)

23. February 2004, 06:59:19
ellieoop 
Subject: FENCER
it seems to be okay now, and i completed over 50 games with no other problems.

23. February 2004, 06:57:07
ellieoop 
Subject: Re:
i'm so happy that it's working for you LJ.

23. February 2004, 06:54:48
Bernice 
I had problems earlier Fencer, telling me the page cant be found...i restarted and havent had any probs since...
Also just because it is accessible from one country Fencer, does that mean it is also accessible from ALL countries?

23. February 2004, 06:53:09
Stevie 
Thats amazing, Fencer has changed his name to Longjohn LMAO

23. February 2004, 06:50:54
ellieoop 
Subject: Re:
when i click main page, i get page can't be found, when i go in thru my opponents profile and then our game, i then use the drop box, and that lets me play all my games, it works, so that's okay for me, i know it will be back to normal soon.

23. February 2004, 06:47:01
Fencer 
ellieoop: How come you cannot get to the main page?

23. February 2004, 06:32:48
ellieoop 
i can't get the main page, i went into my opponents profile to pull up our games, and that's the way i'm able to play. if anyone is wondering why i'm going into their profile, that's why.

23. February 2004, 05:32:39
Stevie 
She didnt touch my horn ;oÞ definate banning material LMAO

23. February 2004, 05:32:15
Bernice 
my original post is NOT off topic....it shouldnt be...not my problem if there are inane posts.

23. February 2004, 05:29:26
Stevie 
Youll get me blushing in a minute Bernice :o*)

But we got a few hours before Harleys up and on here again LMAO

23. February 2004, 05:27:43
Stevie 
we gonna get deleted again LMAO

23. February 2004, 05:26:06
Bernice 
the personal cost to STeve in my mind, is far greater than paying $5 for a game....or $10 for a knight membership or even a rook:)

23. February 2004, 05:23:39
MidnightMcMedic 
Subject: NEON!!!
Pink? hehehehehe

23. February 2004, 05:22:08
Bernice 
yes Backoff :) that also...

23. February 2004, 05:20:50
Backoff 
I want NEON!!! :)

23. February 2004, 05:18:36
Backoff 
or how about all of us that run membership prize tournaments???

23. February 2004, 04:42:18
Bernice 
Subject: Fencer
Kevin and Linda both have their tourneys on the MAIN page as an advertisement.....what about SteveR??? His is admirable as well because this is costing him his OWN money...and he only needs 22 more players to start LOL
Stevies Dollar Donation per player Reversi Creator: Steve R
Hi all, for every player who enters this tourney ,I will donate 1 dollar to Brainking. So more pawns and Knights can join in, I have set 1 game each and max 5 slots needed (means 2 games each colour too). If less than 15 players, I will donate 2 Dollars per player. Have fun and enjoy the games :o)

23. February 2004, 02:48:09
Lythande 
Subject: Re:
<I'm only that slow in slow games (games with long time limits). :> That's one of the reasons for having games with varying lenth moves.

23. February 2004, 02:45:43
Brian1971 
Subject: LongJohn
Thank you and sorry for the private message words. Lets bury the hatchet.

23. February 2004, 02:37:50
Lythande 
*sigh* Slow players don't "ruin it for everyone else", they ruin it for you. I don't mind a bit, I adjust -my- games for my benefit, not requests others modify -their- schedule for my benefit.

23. February 2004, 02:34:23
Czuch 
Why....If there is site trouble, and the time is turned off....does the time left in our games, keep running?

23. February 2004, 02:30:48
coan.net 
I was thinking Fencer said the time would be turned back on Monday - so anyone with 0 time left at that time, the games will time out.

23. February 2004, 02:27:56
Czuch 
So...even though 'game time is suspended' ... The time continues to run out on games?

Thanks :)

23. February 2004, 00:57:56
Bernice 
Subject: Re: Secrecy & Stuff
i agree with you Lythande in so far as I would be very annoyed if I was being scrutinised as it appears that BBW is being.

Make it an "option" of being invisible, that way all benefit except those that track others:)

BTW..thanks :)

23. February 2004, 00:45:19
Lythande 
Subject: Re: Secrecy & Stuff
rod03801: One of the most popular (and irritating) myths today is that the desire for 'privacy' equates to 'secrecy'. Just because I don't want anyone who feels like it to go nosing into my business (or personal life) does -not- mean I'm trying to hide things. Perhaps some people just don't like feeling like they're under a microscope.

LJ: No one suggested it be removed completely, just that it be an option to turn it off. For those mentioned in the paragraph above.

And please stop with the 'get back to your games' BS. I have games that aren't played. I'm not going stop reading just because you're in a hurry. BBW isn't under your requirements, either.

I also use multiple windows (tabs, actually, in my case). Just because you look when he's posted doesn't mean you know what he's doing, nor give you the right to call him a liar. It's his business.

I also agree with the 'if you turn on privacy it's a two-way street' idea. It's kind of like some of the MUDDs ... If you want to ask where someone is, you must let them know where you are, as well.

22. February 2004, 22:31:51
Linda J 
Subject: BK Fund Raiser Prize Tournament
I have some great news. MORE PRIZES
Each section winner will receive a 6 month brain knight membership. This applies only to pawns.
Your chances to win are great. Please enter.;•)
As we say in my area the pot just got sweeter.

*Note* If you are a pawn or a knight you can still enter this tournament even if you are already in a tournament.

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