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30. August 2005, 20:15:55
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re: Membership Levels
Walter Montego: Thank you Walter, fancy a game of backgammon

30. August 2005, 20:14:21
lukulus 
Subject: Re:
Princess Alison: No its not strange, I deleted it myself. I wrote it, and accidentaly posted before considering my words. When I saw Fencer's replay I deleted it. But is true, I think you are right:) Hope itll be solved soon.

30. August 2005, 20:12:39
Walter Montego 
Subject: Re: Membership Levels
Modified by Walter Montego (30. August 2005, 20:22:51)
Fencer: I think that you're missing the point of their complaints. The system appears to have logical inconsistancies and is applied in an abitrary way. Even you say that you're going to change it, so that would appear to me that you have problems with how it is set up also. You are being rather secretive about how you'll change it. I, for one, will take it on faith that you'll improve this Brains business, but I think Princess Alison would just like a reassurance that when the new system is in place she'll get something for helping to recruit some new members that she got to sign up recently. After reading her posts, it doesn't make much sense to me that a refered member if they join as a Knight will earn someone some Brains, but won't earn them any Brains if the referal pays more and joins as a Rook? This doesn't seem logical to me and I'm sure that's all she's talking about.

30. August 2005, 19:57:10
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Membership Levels
playBunny: And who says it's fair? It's the system I created 3 years ago and who doesn't like it, doesn't have to use it.

30. August 2005, 19:53:51
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re: Membership Levels
playBunny: LMFAO , HERE!! HERE!!

30. August 2005, 19:51:12
playBunny 
Subject: Membership Levels
Modified by playBunny (30. August 2005, 19:52:21)
Pawns get to play upto 20 games. They can play in only a single tournament at a time.

Rooks get to create fellowships and start tournaments.
They get to play 1,000,000 games and join 1,000,000 tournaments.

The Knight cannot create even a single fellowship or tournament.
The Knight can play upto 50 games - only 2½ times as many games as a Pawn.
The Knight can participate in only ONE tournament at a time per game type. [In theory that's over 70 tournaments but for a Knight who only plays one type of game that means only one tournament - same as a Pawn. Or if they play two games types, only twice what a Pawn is allowed]

Yet the fee for a Knight is over 60% of the Rook's.
Is this fair?

I'm going to join a tournament to see if I can win a Rook membership. With 125 players it so far and another month before it starts, the chance of several snails and turtles playing is extremely high. So this tournament could last, what, a year?

That means that for the next year, perhaps, I will be unable to play games in any another tournament because I'll mostly be waiting for others to play their games.

The Knight gets on the order of twice what a Pawn gets.
The Rook gets everything possible.

The Pawn pays nothing.
Yet the fee for a Knight is over 60% of the Rook's.
How can this be fair?

I suggest, at the least, that Knights should have a higher limit on games and tournaments. And not per game type but overall. A player who wishes only to play chess variations, or line games, or backgammon types should not be penalised because of that choice.

30. August 2005, 19:51:01
Adaptable Ali 
Thats strange, where has that last persons message gone, the one that was agreeing with me.........was it just DELETED by someone????

30. August 2005, 19:50:35
playBunny 
Subject: Re: Is this really right???????
Fencer: I think what Alison would like to hear (explicitly) is that her existing Knightly referalls will be taken care of when you change the system.

And now on to my own Knightly gripes, lol....

30. August 2005, 19:49:51
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re: Is this really right???????
Fencer: Just but i still lose 100 brains regardless of whether you are changing your referral programme or not, im not going to get those 100 brains am i?

30. August 2005, 19:43:18
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Is this really right???????
Princess Alison: Of course it doesn't. But since I want to replace it soon, it makes no sense to change it now.

30. August 2005, 19:41:38
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re: Is this really right???????
Fencer: Yes, but that doesnt sort the current brain referral problem out does it

30. August 2005, 19:39:47
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Is this really right???????
Princess Alison: Cannot you be just a little more patient and wait for the new system which I am talking about?

30. August 2005, 19:33:36
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re: Is this really right???????
Fencer: Im sorry Fencer but i still think it is wrong. Somebody has been awarded 100 brains without doing anything. I have quite a few people on my friends list who are looking to become paying members,, but if they go for Rook i wont get anything, nothing tiddly poop, but YOU get your money, so i am not asking for much am i????

30. August 2005, 19:28:22
Fencer 
Subject: Re:
Maxxina: No.

30. August 2005, 19:27:04
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re:
Maxxina: Its a farce if u ask me

30. August 2005, 19:26:41
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Is this really right???????
Princess Alison: Once again - the new system will reveal much more options.

30. August 2005, 19:25:42
Maxxina 
If you bought a horse again , you can add a brain to yourself Alison

30. August 2005, 19:23:03
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Is this really right???????
Referrign to recent comment about the brain referral programme. Is it really right, that a person who didnt make a referral is allowed to receive the BRAINS that i wasnt allowed to have??????????????????

30. August 2005, 19:21:29
dameningen 
Subject: Yeah
My head turned red when i realised that pretty soon after i wrote that. I will became soon brain rook. Why i use that way, one might ask. That why that my dad is little bit paranoid maybe with his credit card.

30. August 2005, 18:18:35
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Does this mean?
Modified by Fencer (30. August 2005, 18:19:45)
Salkkuman: Why do you think it wouldn't work from Finland? The listed countries are only examples :-)

30. August 2005, 18:11:56
dameningen 
Subject: Does this mean?
" 1) After some experiments and successful transactions from several countries (United States, Germany, Slovakia, South Africa) I am glad to announce a new way of payments on BrainKing which can be used especially by people who don't have a credit card or a PayPal account. Please read the Section 4 - Wire Transfer (International) for details. "
Does this mean that from finland you can not pay like this. If mean it truly mean that from bank from finland? Why so it should be pretty same which bank the money comes from, should't it?

30. August 2005, 13:09:26
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: Thank you

30. August 2005, 12:01:06
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: THANK YOU !!
I would just like to say thank you to Wellywales for his kind words. He did not have to write or should i say type them, he did because he feels just as strongly about the naff brainking referral programme as i , and many others do. I really think it should be reviewed.

30. August 2005, 11:59:23
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: WellyWales and to remind Fencer to add the brains to my account, they werent automatically added.

30. August 2005, 11:53:42
harley 
Subject: Re:
wellywales: It should be working!

30. August 2005, 11:49:20
harley 
Andre send me a message with the user name and ID of the person who referred your ID please.

30. August 2005, 11:48:30
WellyWales 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: NO! not automatically I had to ask by e-mail

30. August 2005, 11:43:09
Andre Faria 
Is the brains system working? A new BK member refered my ID in the subscribing form, but the brains weren´t added to my account...

30. August 2005, 10:49:20
WellyWales 
Subject: Brains
It should be known that Princess Alison has encouraged 3 people to sign up this month including myself, she has charm and is a pleasure to play games with, I feel let down that she is punished because one of the signers chose a rook membership, Alison has helped this site and should be awarded more for this not less, I am sure others would agree and encourage there opinions and support foe Alison, I would not blame Alison if she did not encourage others to join from now on.

30. August 2005, 07:28:35
Adaptable Ali 
Subject: Re:
Grim Reaper: I think i should be rewarded at least something , or am i being selfish LOL

30. August 2005, 04:58:17
ScarletRose 
Subject: Oh Yeah!

30. August 2005, 02:06:24
Grim Reaper 
Subject: Re:
Princess Alison: I think a Knight should be made a Bishop if they refer a Rook.


29. August 2005, 23:44:25
ClayNashvilleTN 
Subject: Re: Brain points
bwildman:

29. August 2005, 23:21:03
Adaptable Ali 
I think its totally unfair, that i was able to refer somebody to by membership, which they did, but i dont get any brains for it

29. August 2005, 22:00:24
bwildman 
Subject: Re: Brain points
Fencer: I am soooo slooooo

29. August 2005, 21:59:03
Maxxina 
Fencer : Yes , i do !

29. August 2005, 21:58:33
Fencer 
Subject: Re:
Maxxina: You don't really expect an exact answer, do you?

29. August 2005, 21:57:47
bwildman 
Subject: Re: Brain points
playBunny: I've always been a Rook,so never gave it much thought. But the wording in the "brains" discription,is a little unclear.

29. August 2005, 21:53:28
Maxxina 
ok , now it brings a question , when new system will be activated . days - weeks , months ?

29. August 2005, 21:52:35
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Brain points
playBunny: No, it doesn't. The new system will reveal much more options.

29. August 2005, 21:49:16
playBunny 
Subject: Re: Brain points
bwildman: I agree. The Brains are a rewards system intended to create more accounts. It undermines its own purpose if it is unrewarding.

29. August 2005, 21:46:17
Maxxina 
If some knight will get you maharadza , he will receive nothing as with rook ?

29. August 2005, 21:43:40
bwildman 
Subject: Re: Brain points
Fencer: since Knights"qualify for the referral program" why wouldnt they recieve brain points?

29. August 2005, 21:42:20
Fencer 
Subject: 303 online users a while ago
Fine, I want 400 tomorrow.

29. August 2005, 21:34:55
coan.net 
Subject: Re: Brain points
Fencer: If a knight is able to get someone to buy a rook membership, I would think it would be good to at least give them some brains. Maybe 75% of what a rook would get would be good.

Otherwise a Knight might try harder to get the person to only get a knight membership themself - which of course a rook would be beter for the site.

29. August 2005, 21:30:27
Fencer 
Subject: Re: Brain points
wellywales: Yes. It's the rule.

29. August 2005, 21:28:16
WellyWales 
Subject: Re: Brain points
Rose: OK Rose, what is the answer to my Question? if it is zero, is that fair?

29. August 2005, 20:23:05
BuilderQ 
Subject: Re: Brain points
Rose: Exactly, no mention of a Knight earning anything for a new Rook.

29. August 2005, 20:21:07
Rose 
Subject: Re: Brain points
BuilderQ: each paying user of BrainKing.com (i.e. everybody with Brain Knight or higher level) can join our referral program. He/she earns a given amount of Brains for each new paying user that refers to him/her on the How to pay page. This is the list of all possibilities:

* Brain Knight - earns 25 Brains for new six-months Brain Knight or 50 Brains for one-year Brain Knight.
* Brain Rook/Maharajah - earns 25 Brains for new six-months Brain Knight, 50 Brains for one-year Brain Knight or six-months Brain Rook, 100 Brains for one-year Brain Rook, 2000 Brains for six-months Brain Maharajah and 5000 Brains for one-year Brain Maharajah.

29. August 2005, 20:19:50
Artful Dodger 
Subject: My main page say I have "0 Brains"
So can I assume that is an explanation as to why I lose some of my games? ;)

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