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5. lestopado 2009, 15:23:05
SL-Mark 
O čem je toďten plk: Reveal Bug
Just to let you all know, I have just reported a bug in one of my games.
If you make a move that captures a recon and in that same move, also move a '?' that would touch this recon, ensure that you take the recon first, otherwise the '?' will be revealed as it was seen before it was taken, even though it is the same move!

5. lestopado 2009, 16:38:22
dAGGER 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
SL-Mark:
Did this happen in our game?
I'm taken notes about my unrevealed pieces!

5. lestopado 2009, 16:53:06
SL-Mark 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
dAGGER: Yes our game. I did leave you a message saying that your piece on g4 is now revealed!

5. lestopado 2009, 17:28:11
dAGGER 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
SL-Mark:
thank you for admitting it!
I didn't know about this matter, that is a bug for me.
I think we should ask to fix it or at least to explain it in the game rules.

5. lestopado 2009, 17:37:32
SL-Mark 
O čem je toďten plk: The Italian Disguise
Přetvořeny oževatelem SL-Mark (5. lestopado 2009, 17:38:06)
dAGGER: I think we can name this bug as "The Italian Disguise"

I had to mention it, the game is so critical now that it would be cheating not to say anything.

5. lestopado 2009, 17:43:51
SL-Bosse 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: The Italian Disguise
SL-Mark: We can start a nice "non-leauge" tournament called "The Italian Disguise"?

5. lestopado 2009, 17:59:18
SL-Mark 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: The Italian Disguise
SL-Bosse: That would be a great name for the next tournament!

5. lestopado 2009, 16:42:00
Celticjim 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
SL-Mark:
I don't think it's a bug Mark.This was well documented on IYT where the same thing happened.

5. lestopado 2009, 16:58:52
SL-Mark 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
Celticjim: I hadn't realised that. It does explain all my defeats. :)

I can't be the only one, as dAGGER too has just fallen foul of this.

Do you suggest we leave it as it is, or get it changed (if possible) so it doesn't matter the piece movement order with a move

5. lestopado 2009, 17:07:16
happy hermit 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
SL-Mark:

I would consider it a bug and think it should be changed. I wouldn't expect it to be a difficult change (I suspect they need to update certain properties for individual piece moves and then again at the completion of all piece moves and the 'identified' flag is getting set in the first check instead of the second), but it should at least be documented somewhere obvious in the mean time.

I never knew the issue existed at IYT or here until now.

5. lestopado 2009, 17:34:38
SL-Mark 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
happy hermit: Me too. It was quite a surprise to see dAGGER's piece, one that he probably really did not want to show. An Italian disguise :)

5. lestopado 2009, 17:09:34
Chaos 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
SL-Mark: I think it would be good if it got changed. It's not fair to those who don't know it and even if you know you can forget it. How do others feel about it? Should we make a request?

5. lestopado 2009, 17:31:13
SL-Mark 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
Chaos: Agree, it has nothing to do with the skill involved in playing the game. I have already listed it as a bug, saying that the piece movement order should make no difference whether the recon is captured first or last within the move.

5. lestopado 2009, 16:54:24
happy hermit 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
SL-Mark:

Nice find.

This is news to me, but I will keep it in mind.

5. lestopado 2009, 19:16:49
Sandoz 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Reveal Bug
SL-Mark:

Hi everyone,

to me it does not seem like a bug. I know this from iyt.
And I consider it a quite logical thing, that a recon reveals every piece until the recon gets killed. Even within a move of your opponent. Nevertheless, one should clearly write it down in the rules of the game to avoid any disadvantages for newer players. If there are any new players .... ;-)

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