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12. srpenca 2003, 13:22:55
harley 
buckwheat, we've all had games go back a few moves. I've had to start one all over again! It wasn't an intentional thing to set all the games back and if there was any way around it then Fencer would have done it by now. This is still a new site that is growing and it will encounter problems along the way. But you won't find a better, friendlier site with owners that care as much. No matter what inconvieniences there are, its worth it just to have this site at all.

12. srpenca 2003, 13:25:17
Joseph S 
O čem je toďten plk: Re:
i bet the guy i beat in the tank game will agree with you...and probably laughing as he makes a different move now

12. srpenca 2003, 13:26:45
Joseph S 
how about we rename it to...joke-of-a-gamesite.com...lol

12. srpenca 2003, 13:26:49
danoschek 
O čem je toďten plk: inconvenience indeed
to spot a player too heinous to stand by his former move
would be very convenient for me - wouldn't play him again
and spare idle effort thus ...

the problem are 'dark games' that timed out, not your easy worries.

btw IYT has had riots of chain reactions at messing up
dark games, haven't seen you there crying out loud ...

they called it 'inconvenience' btw and apologized ~*~

PS
chill - this is the day after ...
sorry the massage-saloon doesan't work yet

12. srpenca 2003, 13:27:10
harley 
Well I'm sorry your game is messed up, but I guess you have an advantage now in other games that you didn't have before. You could always ask your oppenent to be fair and make the same moves again until you get to where you last were.. if you remember the moves that is!

12. srpenca 2003, 13:28:42
Joseph S 
the ratings aren't gonna be a very accurate thing anymore now are they....how about just dropping them...

12. srpenca 2003, 13:32:21
Joseph S 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: inconvenience indeed
i don't play dark games...if you wanna complain about them you'll have to do it yourself

12. srpenca 2003, 13:33:24
harley 
Buckwheat, the ratings will still be fairly accurate, and in a bit of time they will be fully accurate again. And as Dano suggested, it would be only fair in games like chess, tank battle etc, if you made identical moves where possible. There is no need to over-react to this situation. Fencer has explained how it happened and apologised, there is nothing more he can do. And nothing more we can do but get on with it and make the best of it. I'm just glad we are back online and I am able to play again.

12. srpenca 2003, 13:34:10
danoschek 
O čem je toďten plk: face reality
you complained - I wait til the massage works again ...
more convenient you know ... :D ... ~*~

12. srpenca 2003, 13:35:18
Joseph S 
yippee...i can play..i won but at any time it could become a loss...or lost moves....

12. srpenca 2003, 13:45:29
sandra... 
buckwheat.. you have an advantage over a lot of the members here in some ways when this happens.. you only have a maximum of 20 games to remember the moves on, some of us members have over a hundred or many more.. what are the chances of us remembering all the moves we made????

12. srpenca 2003, 13:51:55
MidnightMcMedic 
And guess what buckwheat? Not everyone is overly worried about ratings etc. The object of the game is to HAVE FUN! So if you win, you win. If you were good enough to beat the person one time and it changes because of all this, invite them to another game and beat them again. That is unless you are afraid that you can't do it again.

Thanks again Fencer and Liquid for all your work.

12. srpenca 2003, 14:24:10
danoschek 
O čem je toďten plk: ratings
it's not that easy go ...
and your object is not my object - I have fun by winning too.
but indeed buckwheat has only provisional ratings
- with mine it would take much more effort and be
even impossible by simply 'winning one game' ...
therefore restauring of my ratings is essential for me,
after they got messed up by server malfunctions ...
else it takes months to balance - a crash every few
weeks and your advice volatilizes nicely, MidMed ... :O

but for me, zero problemo to have a few days patience until
Fencer has worked through the really urgent problems here ... ~*~

12. srpenca 2003, 15:13:49
Andersp 
I suppose the rating is rather important for those
(besides Gothic Chess Pro) who want to be rich in the "Gothic Chess WC" :)

13. srpenca 2003, 06:28:15
Nightstorm 
Buckwheat you can always go somewhere else and play. There will probably be a lot more problems before they get all the bugs worked out of the system. Thats expected with a new site trying to please everyone. Give Fencer the time and support he needs to make this the best site. Or keep complaining and watch him say it isn't worth it and shut it down completely.

13. srpenca 2003, 07:36:07
rgbdbg 
O čem je toďten plk: This is a time for patience and understanding...
Fencer has done an excellent job with this site. He deserves our support, not ridicule, especially from non-paying pawns. Complaining isn't going to change anything...not for the better anyway. Let's weather this storm together. Anyone up for a hurricane party?.. Ö¿~

13. srpenca 2003, 09:40:40
bumble 
Was buckwheat the first grouse to be shot on the 'Glorious Twelfth'?

13. srpenca 2003, 10:24:52
sandra... 
O čem je toďten plk: moves when BK was down!
i will make this apology now.. as i have just been accused of cheating! by making a different move in a game from when the site was down..
I want to assure everyone, that i do not cheat! if i could remember my exact moves i would do them again! the game was a tourney game, it was a FUN??? tourney! and i get accused of cheating! the players rating was over 1000 higher than mine... so the person would of obviously won whatever...

anyway, again any apologies if i do this to anyone else, it is truly not intentional!

13. srpenca 2003, 10:56:48
danoschek 
O čem je toďten plk: Never explain.
True friends don't need it,
and your enemies won't believe you anyway ... ~*~

13. srpenca 2003, 10:58:15
sandra... 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Never explain.
yes thats true... but i wont be accused of doing something i just DONT do...

13. srpenca 2003, 11:04:38
bumble 
Firstly, I know you don't cheat, chatty!

Secondly, where is it written that we have to make the same moves as before anyway?

13. srpenca 2003, 11:10:54
Fencer 
Hmmm, since a database crash is very rare event [it never happened before and the site has been launched almost a year ago], I would not define any policy for such situation.

13. srpenca 2003, 11:11:57
hokuriku 
O čem je toďten plk: E-Mail
Yesterday I wrote an E-Mail to fencer@brainking.com. It could not be delivered within 8 hours. And why does the "Contact" not work?

13. srpenca 2003, 11:23:33
Fencer 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: E-Mail
Because our mail server is down. Use internal messages instead.

13. srpenca 2003, 14:14:57
Fencer 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: Fencer: just wondering
When we fix the database server.

13. srpenca 2003, 14:54:21
harley 
Chatty, this is something I've been a bit worried about, not making the same moves as before, and being thought of (if not outright accused) as a cheat. But everyone is in the same boat, I've resigned a few games I know I lost the first time round, and I have had people also resign games I won... but if I have forgotten a game or not made moves I should have, then I would ask my opponents to tell me rather than stew on it! Its a genuine mistake (my memory isn't great!) and given a nudge I'll make the 'right' moves!

13. srpenca 2003, 15:20:49
cariad 
harley - that's fine for non-dice games, but in the gammon games the dice are different to the first time (I think!).

13. srpenca 2003, 15:30:25
sandra... 
O čem je toďten plk: Re:
if i had remembered which games i had finished harley i would of resigned, i sent an apology to the person concerned and also resigned .. i have another one at least that i have to resign when they return it.. but the message i had from the opponent was downright rude in my way of thinking! and there was no need for it.. which is also why i made a public apology!

13. srpenca 2003, 15:31:02
Badinage 
Personally I couldn't even tell you which ones were set back for me? So likewise, if I move diferently I apologise in advance.

13. srpenca 2003, 15:33:45
cariad 
I thought you moved in mysterious ways Aragon!

13. srpenca 2003, 15:35:08
Badinage 
LMAO - Oh I do!!

13. srpenca 2003, 16:35:54
harley 
You're right, Cariad, I think the dice games are different this time around. But we just have to grin and get on with it! lol! Not a lot we can do about those!

Chatty, I really wouldn't worry, everyone here who knows you knows that you wouldn't deliberately cheat in a game. I've probably made moves different to the first time, and I know many of my opponents have, just because we can't remember the first set of moves! I don't think that calls for any nastiness, a simple message saying "do you remember... such and such moves were made before"... and we'd probably remember!
Allowances have to be made for people who do not take games so seriously they remember every move made! :oD
(Cariad, Aragon pretends to move in mysterious ways when he hasn't got a clue where to move!! lol)

13. srpenca 2003, 16:41:45
Badinage 
Dang, I've been sused!! ROFL

13. srpenca 2003, 19:25:27
Rose 
O čem je toďten plk: First Brain Maharajah
Three Cheers to CaoZ for becoming the first Brain Maharajah. If I could I would for sure!

13. srpenca 2003, 19:45:42
harley 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: First Brain Maharajah
WTG CaoZ!!!!!! Nice one!! I also wish I could afford that membership!! Hip, hip, hooray!!!

13. srpenca 2003, 19:49:02
danoschek 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: First Brain Maharajah
true ambition yeah. - ... my respect, Carlos ... :) ~*~

13. srpenca 2003, 22:25:58
sandra... 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: First Brain Maharajah
nice one CaoZ.. wish i could do that :)))

14. srpenca 2003, 00:11:25
Crissie 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: First Brain Maharajah
WOW! Wish I could do it too! WTG!! :o)

14. srpenca 2003, 00:14:21
Badinage 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: First Brain Maharajah
Perhaps if it was renamed to : Brain Marijuana it would prove more popular (regardless of cost)?? LOL

14. srpenca 2003, 01:22:11
cya peeps 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: First Brain Maharajah
Very nice CaoZ!

14. srpenca 2003, 14:25:10
RAHVIN666 
O čem je toďten plk: Re: First Brain Maharajah
Well done CaoZ. &:O)
Hope there's more people out there with the money and dedication, so that Fencer can get his new equipment!

14. srpenca 2003, 14:26:43
RAHVIN666 
Is there a link on this site to change my password? If there is, could someone please point me in the right direction, as i can't seem to find it.
Thanks in advance.

14. srpenca 2003, 14:29:36
Fencer 
rahvin666: Go to your Profile / Edit page.

14. srpenca 2003, 14:39:54
RAHVIN666 
O čem je toďten plk: Re:
Thanks Fencer. I looked everywhere except there!

14. srpenca 2003, 14:40:44
Fencer 
I should update FAQ ;-)

14. srpenca 2003, 14:47:46
RAHVIN666 
O čem je toďten plk: Re:
I would imagine that's quite a way down your list ;O)
Keep up the good work and ignore all the complainers. (We'll take them round the back later and give them a good talking too)...LOL

16. srpenca 2003, 03:19:47
coley 
dont people have better things to do than to sit and bitch about something they can't control.

16. srpenca 2003, 07:18:24
Bernice 
of course not COLEY....thats what makes the world go round...besides one of these days all the bitchin etc might pay off...we all might win the lotto and donate to Fencer LOL...also why would you want to be in CONTROL of everything in life :)

16. srpenca 2003, 08:41:51
tonyh 
O čem je toďten plk: Hooray!
I went through 87 moves without a hitch!!! No 'capacity full'.
Thanks, Fencer.

16. srpenca 2003, 09:49:33
Fencer 
It seems that aggregation of web and application servers and database replication are worth something :-)

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