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18. January 2009, 06:08:58
anastasia 
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Czuch: you keep wanting to "lump" everyone...liberal OR conservative...I am really niether...I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
I agree with Tuesday..people SHOULD be held responsible for their own actions,I think prayer SHOULD be back in school too...maybe I wouldn't pray to they same God you did,and maybe you wouldn't pray at all,but it would be owr own free choices....not like Tuesday would be shouting the Lord's prayer in the face of an athiest,and nor should they scream back God doesn't exsist....if everyone just silently did their own thing...why should it matter...who is it hurting...taking scores out of games is just rediculios....kids SHOULD want to win,not just slide by.If I have a kid that wanted to "slide by" and not work to achieve greater things,I would toss him into a hole somewhere.
Where the hell am I going with this post? I dunno,I am still medicated,lol....anywho..I THINK my point was going to be that you are the one that is trying to lump libs and conservs...sometimes people just dont fit into your lil molds..if that wasn't the point I was trying to make,let me get off these pills and then I will make it :)

18. January 2009, 14:38:53
anastasia 
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Tuesday: glad everything made sense,I read it twice before posting,lol....no cold,I blew my knee out again last Monday and have been back on pain meds,crutches and have it braced again

18. January 2009, 14:31:10
Czuch 
Subject: Re:
anastasia:

you keep wanting to "lump" everyone...liberal OR conservative...I am really niether..

Unfortunately, what you are stuck with is basically a 2 party system.... I dont find myself falling into step with everything conservative and with nothing liberal. But we have to vote with the side that takes us in the best overall direction we are looking for..... my opinion, if you crave less government and more personal responsibility, its clear that the republicans will give that to you better than democrats will!

18. January 2009, 07:57:01
Bernice 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Artful Dodger: well if all are going to jump on the bandwagon, mine is.....I think AD is an idiot (jk) and that is why I work with figures.......

No offense Dan.....

18. January 2009, 08:02:09
Bernice 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Artful Dodger:

18. January 2009, 14:25:51
Czuch 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Tuesday:

but don't think government should be telling everyone what to do.


When we talk about higher taxes, or public education, or welfare, or regulations, universal health care, or any of a host of other liberal ideas and agendas, you ARE talking about the government telling people what to do!!!

When you vote for democrats, in general, you ARE voting for the government to tell you what to do, and for the government to have more control over your life!

This is one reason I say you ARE a closet conservative, because you seem to want a lot of what conservatives want, yet you vote exactly the opposite way to get er done?!?!

Again, I think there is a huge misconception, perpetrated by the LIBERAL MEDIA, and HOLLYWOOD TYPES IE Michael Moore, all left over hippie idealists, who have so many duped into thinking that conservatives are some big bad evil mean thing?

Thats why I say take a listen for 2 weeks to this Boortz guy, you will find yourself agreeing with just about everything he says, and he will tell you that democrats and liberalism are NOT the answer to your queries!

18. January 2009, 15:01:09
Czuch 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Tuesday:

Life would be a mess without goevernment.


I completely disagree with this assumption.... to me, the more government, the bigger the mess!

18. January 2009, 15:05:17
anastasia 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Czuch: I think we need government..I just think the people should have a more active roll in what it does...like their payraises...we should have a say in if that happens or not....the bank bail out..what about OUR voice being heard of if the government should have done it or not..prayer in schools,taxes...checks and balances sure,within the system they have it,let US be heard too tho....they govern to us what THEY think is right but never actually see what the people feel about it.
LOVE the ones that sit there on their moral high horses and then it comes out they had a gay affair,LMAO...those are the best.

18. January 2009, 15:30:10
Czuch 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Tuesday:

Do you think homeless people got that way on purpose.


Who duped you into believing that the federal government is the only/best solution to our problems?

The federal government is a huge beaurocratic mess, they cant do anything without triple copies in duplicate, you always hear stories of how they paid $1000 dollars for a hex nut or whatever, they cant even pay their own bills etc etc....


I am not saying just let everyone fend for themselves, or to not care for homeless and other disadvantaged.... but you make it sound like if the Federal Government doesnt take care of us that nobody can/will????

There is a private sector way to help take care of us!!!!! The private sector is WAY more efficient than the federal government ever was or will be! How can you sit here and complain about the government so much....".they govern to us what THEY think is right but never actually see what the people feel about it."..... yet your solution for everything is more government?!?!?!?!?!


We CAN take care of people in need, and we CAN do all the things you want in life WITHOUT the involvement in the Federal Government!

Private companies, local communities, churches etc, all would do a far better job at helping this society than the federal government can ever do!

Like I said before.... you have been duped by liberal media etc into believing that conservatives/republicans dont want all the same things that you want, that we are mean and uncaring blah blah blah.... but in reality what the difference is, is that you have been duped into thinking that it is the federal government or nothing, and the reality is that there are many other solutions other than relying on the federal government to do everything for us!

18. January 2009, 15:47:57
Czuch 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Tuesday: I am currently visiting in Florida and there are "homeless" on every highway exit ramp and street corner with their sigs begging for money...

there was a news report here that most of them make between 40 to 80 THOUSAND DOLLARS per year!!!! They also showed one girl with her "daughter" on hidden camera getting done with her begging, and then going around the block and dropping the kid off at her real family, and then herself going back to her home!


The private sector wants to scream at the homeless man begging for food to get a job.

You are part of the private sector, and that is not you is it???

I guess we have finally found our common differences..... you think the federal government is better equipped to take care of us than the private sector, and I couldnt disagree more!

18. January 2009, 15:53:12
anastasia 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Czuch: there was a news report here that most of them make between 40 to 80 THOUSAND DOLLARS per year!!!!
I am SERIUOSLY thinking that that would be a VERY small percent that are like that???
you have idiots in every walk of life...EVERY walk of life

18. January 2009, 16:12:33
Czuch 
Subject: Re:I think most people are idiots...thats why I work with animals....
Tuesday:

I am one of those peole too... i would never give a dime to one of those "highway homeless".... if they can spend 10 hours a day begging for cash, they surly can do something more productive to society, right?

I will however give my money to my local community (church or other private) to help those that are truly in need!


So the local churches helps all their members, and then for the atheists you have other local private sector help, then... and only then... does the government come in and help the rest that falls through the cracks... government last resort, not first resort!

You hear libarals yelling about act locally, think globally.... well i agree... but when the feds take my money to help people, it is not specific to helping someone in my local community, but if I am left with that money to help out my local community, and everyone is left to help out their own communities, we wouldnt need the feds to do much for us at all!

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