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15. July 2005, 00:34:03
Mystic River 
Subject: Re: dear moderator persons
nobleheart: Those would be great links to post. Let me see if I can find a site that has a bestsellar list that updates weekly and I can provide that information for you. If anyone knows of such a site that I can go to, please let me know. As far as the recommended reading list, I would need everyone's input on that. A lot of people probably would not like my style of books, so my recommended reading would probably not be that great. :)

11. July 2005, 22:08:54
nobleheart 
Subject: re books
there are several tv shows we get heere that deal with books.
I have discovered several have there own website & a "recommended reading list"
if anyone is interested,I plan to cut paste some links for myself..i could share.

11. July 2005, 21:08:29
nobleheart 
Subject: a book suggestion
Modified by nobleheart (12. July 2005, 07:47:07)
ja freind bought it for me,because it is a subject I like.just started reading it,vg.

Ten Thousand Roses
The Making of a Feminist Revolution
Judy Rebick - Author
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this link tells you something about it

11. July 2005, 21:05:05
nobleheart 
Subject: Re: dear moderator persons
Kata Liana: well as an idea,maybe a couple of links re:
"best seller list"
"recommended reading lists"

just an idea.
PS ty for the links you posted allready

11. July 2005, 13:25:11
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi and Fantasy
Eriisa: i read one of the books of the dragon riders of pern ... i somehow didnt borrow the next books though .. was distracted by another author at that time i guess :)

Here is a link to the site of Anne McCaffrey

11. July 2005, 13:17:39
Eriisa 
Subject: Sci-Fi and Fantasy
I think my all time favorite is Anne McCaffrey and the Pern Series. (Not awake enough to do links)

11. July 2005, 08:33:56
Hrqls 
Subject: Re: dear moderator persons
nobleheart: you mean a list of links related to the subjects which are currently discussed ? such a list could be updated about once a week or once a month ?

11. July 2005, 08:31:28
Hrqls 
Subject: sci-fi & fantasy
Modified by Hrqls (11. July 2005, 08:32:24)
about 20 years ago i started reading science fiction and loved it ..

i loved :

at least those are the ones that i remember right at once ... so i must have loved them a lot :)

about 15 years ago i slowly turned to reading fantasy and since about 10 years 99% of what i read for fun is fantasy.

at this moment i love/adore/worship/.. :

of course i didnt mention a lot of other (sci-fi & fantasy)authors to whom i was addicted for quite some time :)

11. July 2005, 03:50:52
The Listener 
Subject: Tarot
Hasn't anyone noticed that this particular Tarot Card depicts the demolition of the WTC Towers?

http://www.geocities.com/smegsss/16TC.jpg

11. July 2005, 03:26:51
Mystic River 
Subject: Re: Sci Fi
gekrompen hoofd: I will have to write that down and check it out. Thanks. :)

11. July 2005, 03:26:01
Mystic River 
Subject: Re: dear moderator persons
nobleheart: You mean kind of like the e-books that are posted above. Let me know your thoughts on what kind of links.

10. July 2005, 23:03:49
nobleheart 
Subject: dear moderator persons
I think it is a great idea to have a few "subject related links" posted above the books board.
I think it would be a good suggestion for each board to have such a related links list.

10. July 2005, 22:12:11
The Listener 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: There's an excellent Sci-Fi book out there called "Stranger In A Strange Land" by Robert A. Heinlein -- It's about this guy named Michael Valentine who is born and raised on Planet Mars and then is later brought back to Earth. There's alot to this story -- A great read :)

10. July 2005, 22:06:56
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: I will have to keep an eye out for when it is translated. It sounds very interesting.

10. July 2005, 22:06:19
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
gekrompen hoofd: I actually haven't really read any science fictions books before. The authors I normally read are:

Dean Koontz
John Saul
Stephen King
John Sanford
Dorothy Garlock
Linda Lael Miller
Tami Hoag
Iris Johansen
Kay Hooper

Plus the previous mentioned books that we have been talking about. I am stuck on the same authors, I need to expand my horizen some. lol

10. July 2005, 22:05:03
Andre Faria 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: Sorry to hear that. Weel, sooner or later it will be translated, like some of his other books.

Farsi is a persian language. Catalan is a region of Spain and the language is a cross between spanish and french...

10. July 2005, 21:59:14
The Listener 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: Do you like any Sci-Fi?

10. July 2005, 21:57:21
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: Well "Brida" is out for me. It is not out in English. The only Editions are:

Editions

Rights sold in 4 languages

Language

Catalan, Farsi, Portuguese & Spanish.

A couple of these languages I have never heard of and I don't speak the other two. That's too bad.

10. July 2005, 21:53:42
The Listener 
Subject: Re: Mosaics and Cosmologists
Kata Liana: Its basic meaning is someone who believes in many pieces of different religions from all cultures on Planet Earth :)

10. July 2005, 21:49:23
Mystic River 
Subject: Re: Mosaics and Cosmologists
gekrompen hoofd: thanks. I did try to do a little research already and couldn't find out anything about "Mosaic". Only in the art sense.

10. July 2005, 21:48:01
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: I am going to write those down. I think "Brida" sounds really interesting, that will probably be the one I get first. Thanks for some ideas and some other authors.

10. July 2005, 21:46:56
The Listener 
Subject: Mosaics and Cosmologists
The word 'Mosaic' is merely a witicism coined by the famous Albert Einstein as an explanation to the Nazis in answer to what is his religion.

Definition of 'Cosmologist':

An Astronomer who studies Evolution and Space-Time in relation to the Universe.

10. July 2005, 21:39:26
Andre Faria 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: He is the most well known brasilian writer. In my opinion he is too religious and obscure. But his writing is outstanding.

For what I read in your profile, I think you must read "The Alchemist", "Brida" and "Manual of a warrior light". Brida is the manual of a witch...

For those who are not religious, "The Devil and Miss Prym" will be a better choice. It´s his best book, IMHO...

10. July 2005, 21:35:06
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
gekrompen hoofd: I will also have to look into Mosaics and Cosmologists. I have not heard of that before either. You two are giving me lots of reading material to look into.

10. July 2005, 21:33:31
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: I actually have never heard of him before. I read his bio, it appears he was into alchemy, otherwise he would not have been able to write such a well received book as "The Alchemist". I have never seen or heard of this book before either. Another book to look into. :)

10. July 2005, 21:27:02
The Listener 
Grrr, I miss the 'edit button' LOL

Spell-correction, make that Cosmologist :)

10. July 2005, 21:26:08
Andre Faria 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: So you must enjoy Paulo Coelho

10. July 2005, 21:26:03
The Listener 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: I'm not particuarly into the 'occult' way of thinking. Though I'm well-versed in many forms of philosophy. The way I see it, everyone is entitled to their different beliefs, so long as they don't inflict their ideaologies upon others.

I'm a Mosaic as well as a Cosomologist ;)

10. July 2005, 21:17:50
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
gekrompen hoofd: I am interested in the occult and he is a part of that, even though he is what you would refer to as a darker side of the occult.

I like to broaden my knowledge on all sorts or religions - I have the King James bible, the gnostic bible, the witches bible, the satanic bible and the quoran.

The reason for the interest in Aleister Crowley is I do tarot reading and have recently purchased the Thoth deck (I own over 20 different tarot decks) and wanted to get some insite to the man.

10. July 2005, 21:11:30
The Listener 
Subject: Here's a good book to try...
I'm currently reading a book called "Speaking Freely : Trials of The First Amendment" by Floyd Abrams.

10. July 2005, 21:07:32
Andre Faria 
Subject: The Swallow and the Tom Cat - Jorge Amado
Just bought this bought last week and read it the same day.

It´s a child book that every adult must read. Just like "Jonathan Livingstone Seagull - a story", "Le petite prince" and "Historia de una gaviota y del gato que le enseño a volar"

10. July 2005, 21:05:55
The Listener 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: Aleister Crowley

10. July 2005, 20:52:04
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: great. I found the box it was in last night and got it out. I just finished a book so I think I will start this one next.

10. July 2005, 20:47:29
Andre Faria 
Subject: Re:
Kata Liana: Yes, indeed it´s very good.

It´s speculative and controversial, but presents all ideas with logic. One of the best books I bought this year.

10. July 2005, 16:51:37
Mystic River 
Subject: Re: Welcome to the new Moderators!
LuckyCat9: I have checked into this and the reason why it is set for "Pawns must be approved." I think since I am a new mod for the board we will start out with a fresh start and allow everyone to post. If any problems arise, I will deal with them on an individual basis, but if it gets to out of hand with to many problems, we will go back to the "Pawns must be approved" mode. So please be considerate in your posts.

10. July 2005, 16:05:38
Mystic River 
Subject: Re: Welcome to the new Moderators!
LuckyCat9: I will find out. I am unsure if all the boards are like this, or if just this board was like it because there was no moderator. I will try to have an answer for you within a couple days.

10. July 2005, 07:10:21
LuckyCat9 
Subject: Welcome to the new Moderators!
Just wondering, will the mode to pawn approval be changing anytime soon? :)

9. July 2005, 05:58:54
Mystic River 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: So you must read "Templar Revelation" by Lynn Picknett & Clive Prince...

Is this a good book? I moved a few months ago, and ordered this book right before I moved. I haven't had a chance to read it yet. I was just looking through the discussion board and happened across this and it reminded me that I had bought this book and it is still packed up. I need to dig it out. I also got a lot of books by Aleister Crowley packed away with it that I need to get out and look at also that I haven't had a chance to go through yet.

25. June 2005, 00:16:37
nobleheart 
Subject: I sent this to harley
ok since you asked.this is a short list of the best books I have read this year.
if you are going to post a MSG for me,please post this:

each will riase your conscience in its own way--8^) steve
wink by Malcolm Gladwell
The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell
lip service by kate fillion
A Short History of Nearly Everything by A Short History of Nearly Everything by Bill Bryson
Quit Digging Your Grave with a Knife and Fork by Mike Huckabee
Shake Hands with the Devil: The Failure of Humanity in Rwanda by Romeo Dallaire
Liberalism is a Mental Disorder by Michael Savage
Stupid White Men by Michael Moore
The Good Fight by Ralph Nader
The End of Oil by Paul Roberts
Bush Versus the Environment by Robert S. Devine
The Five People You Meet in Heaven by Mitch Albom

25. June 2005, 00:24:31
Left in disgust 
Subject: Time Traveller's Wife
I just finished this one and there were tears streaming down my face at the end! But there was more to that book than a love story. It was loaded with symbolism and existential inuendoes. Well worth a read!

25. June 2005, 00:10:24
Eriisa 
Subject: Re:
nobleheart: Sounds like a good idea to me!

24. June 2005, 23:59:17
nobleheart 
ok harley if I post the short list of book I thought were good here?

20. June 2005, 20:00:44
ScarletRose 
Subject: To Die For
Linda Howard

Oh my gawd.. I am laughing my butt off at this book.. too funny.. and I am only just starting the book.. any ladies out there that want a book they don't wanna put down.. and yet don't get offended this is the book for you.. not recommended to children due to the possible sex content.. ahem..

15. June 2005, 22:50:15
Left in disgust 
Subject: Re:
LuckyCat9: Interesting link there! thank you!

15. June 2005, 22:37:17
LuckyCat9 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria: The online exhibit is marvelous! I too am not religious, though there are some great thought provoking metaphors in dere. Inspirational to some show people as well.

15. June 2005, 22:10:49
Andre Faria 
Subject: Re:
LuckyCat9: I read this book some years ago. I´m not religious, but the way they deal with birth and death is amazing...

15. June 2005, 20:38:23
LuckyCat9 
Subject: Re:

6. June 2005, 01:07:06
Andre Faria 
Modified by Andre Faria (6. June 2005, 01:20:18)
Ok, mine is from the on-line encyclopedia of the occult, mysticism, magic, paranormal and more...

The antichrist arthicle is not a review, I think. I believe it´s an excerpt from a book, "The Templars", or something like that...

6. June 2005, 01:01:38
Eriisa 
Shouldn't we be posting credits of who wrote those reviews / essays?

5. June 2005, 22:40:37
ANTICHRIST 
Subject: Re:
Andre Faria:During the judicial proceedings and inquisitions that occurred during the suppression of the Templars, the name "Baphomet" was revealed as the name of an idol allegedly worshipped by the knights. These confessions and statements were made under torture or the threat of torture, and were later recanted; their historical value must be assessed in light of that fact. The Templar idol has been variously described as: an idol with a human skull, a head with two faces, a cat idol and a bearded head. The word's questionable etymology is discussed below.

During the suppression of the Knights Templar it was claimed by the Inquisition that the knights used a Baphomet as part of their initiation ceremonies. This, among other assertions, sealed their Order as heretical.

Eliphas Levi and Baphomet
A much more recent and well known depiction shows Baphomet in the form of a winged humanoid goat with a pair of breasts and a torch on his head between his horns. This image comes from Eliphas Lévi's 1854 Dogme et rituel de la haute magie (in English known as Transcendental Magic). Lévi considered the Baphomet to be a depiction of the absolute in symbolic form. Lévi on the symbolism of his drawing:

"The goat on the frontispiece carries the sign of the pentagram on the forehead, with one point at the top, a symbol of light, his two hands forming the sign of hermetism, the one pointing up to the white moon of Chesed, the other pointing down to the black one of Geburah. This sign expresses the perfect harmony of mercy with justice. His one arm is female, the other male like the ones of the androgyn of Khunrath, the attributes of which we had to unite with those of our goat because he is one and the same symbol. The flame of intelligence shining between his horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it. The ugly beast's head expresses the horror of the sinner, whose materially acting, solely reponsible part has to bear the punishment exclusively; because the soul is insensitive according to its nature and can only suffer when it materializes. The rod standing instead of genitals symbolizes eternal life, the body covered with scales the water, the semi- circle above it the atmosphere, the feathers following above the volatile. Humanity is represented by the two breasts and the androgyn arms of this sphinx of the occult sciences."
Lévi's depiction, for all its fame, is not particularly authentic to the historical description from the Templar trials, although it is not unlike gargoyles found on several Templar-built churches— or Viollet-le-Duc's vivid gargoyles added to Notre Dame de Paris about the same time as Lévi's illustration.

Baphomet as a demon
Baphomet, as Lévi's illustration suggests, has occasionally been misunderstood as a synonym of Satan or a demon, a member of the hierarchy of Hell. Baphomet appears in that guise as a character in James Blish's The Day After Judgment. Jack Chick claims that he is a demon worshipped by Freemasons, a claim that apparently originated with the Taxil hoax. The head of Lévi's Baphomet was inscribed with a pentagram which is a symbol occasionally adopted by Wiccans and other students of the Occult. A goat head inscribed within an inverted pentagram, the upper points filled by the horns, the side points by the ears, and the bottom by the bearded chin, is a symbol occasionally adopted by Satanists and other followers of a Left-Hand Path. The head, horns and torch together take the form of a Fleur-de-lis.

A different interpretation of Baphomet is given by the Satanic group the Order of Nine Angles. According to the ONA, Baphomet is female, and is depicted as a beautiful mature woman, naked from the waist up, who holds in her hand the severed head of a bearded man. "The name of Baphomet is regarded by Traditional Satanists as meaning "the mistress (or mother) of blood" - the (Satanic) Mistress who sometimes washes in the blood of her foes and whose hands are thereby stained.

Etymology of the name "Baphomet"
Many theories exist as to the origin of the term, including:

From the Greek words 'Baphe' and 'Metis'. The two words together would mean "Baptism of Wisdom".
Atbash cipher for the Goddess Sophia. Dr Hugh Schonfield, one of the scholars who worked on the Dead Sea Scrolls, believed that the word "Baphomet" was created with knowledge of the Atbash substitution cipher, which substitutes the first letter of the Hebrew alphabet for the last, the second for the second last, and so on. "Baphomet" rendered in Hebrew becomes בפומת; interpreted using Atbash, it becomes שופיא, which can be interpreted as the Greek word "Sophia", or wisdom.
A deformation of the Latinised "Mahomet", a mediæval European rendering of Muhammad, the name of the Prophet of Islam.
Idries Shah proposed that "Baphomet" may actually derive from the Arabic word ابو فهمة Abufihamat, meaning "The Father of Understanding," and associated with Sufism.
Lévi proposed that the name was composed from a series of abbreviations: 'Temp. ohp. Ab.' which originates from Latin 'Templi omnium hominum pacis abhas,' meaning "the father of universal peace among men." An alternative reading could be tem. o. h. p. ab. for templi omnium hominum pacis abbas. The translation in this case is abbot of the temple of peace of all mankind, perhaps referring to the Templars themselves.

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