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10. November 2003, 19:07:08
harley 
I see your predicament, Mickey.. I mean Felix. :o)
Well all I can suggest in this case is to wait until Ed has been on, and read your post. See what he suggests. If the last cheque wasn't sent registered, maybe another cheque should be sent that is?

10. November 2003, 18:56:52
Rose 
Subject: Felix
You'd not mentioned previously that a statement had been made about reissuing a second cheque to you. I have no other advice to give you but hope that the payment was indeed sent to you which would restore faith in this person. My only input would be to say I can see mail getting lost once but certainly not twice.

10. November 2003, 18:51:06
Felix 
Subject: Re: harley...
Rose, been there done that. Ed assured me that if he had accidentally addressed the refund incorrectly that he would cancel the check and send a replacement. That was over a month ago. I have sent other messages, and there has been no response. I am at my wit's end, okay? So what would you do, take a plane across the country to meet him in person or take him to small claims court for $50? It comes down to one simple thing: honesty and reputation come into question if all else fails, and I have no idea what else I can do, do you? I'm all ears (and I'm not Mickey).

10. November 2003, 18:46:35
harley 
Felix, I totally understand your frustration. I'm not making excuses for anyone, I'm just pointing out that you really need to speak to Gothic Inventor about this.
I'm sure this can be sorted out between yourself and him, maybe using Rose's suggestion. It sounds like a sensible idea to me.

10. November 2003, 18:45:56
coan.net 
Subject: Game Time Limits
May i make the suggestion that you wait a little longer before turning back on the time limit, or at least turn all "0" time into 3-5 days before you turn back on the time.

Back in Septermber (before I had a new job & had more time), I could keep up with my 500+ games - in late October when I had less time, I was doing good with getting my games down to around 300 - but now that I'm back stuck with 500+ games, It's taking me awhile to get my games back off "0" time.

I would hate to time out on games when it is a site problem that got me with so many games with zero time! :-(

BBW (BIG BAD WOLF)

10. November 2003, 18:42:41
Rose 
Subject: Re: harley...
Why wont you ask for a reissued cheque felix? I dont see the harm in asking for that?

10. November 2003, 18:38:39
Felix 
Subject: Re: harley...
Sounds fine to me. But at this point, I'm all finished hearing excuses. Sorry, but to whomever I need to talk to to get action: this is the situation, now. I won't make a pest of myself, nor am I being a "bad sport." I play chess well, I play Gothic sort of okay, and I NEVER CHEAT. So when I get cheated, it kind of hurts, know what I mean? BTW I think Harleys are way cool.

10. November 2003, 18:21:53
harley 
Felix, the Gothic World Championships are run by Gothic Inventor, Ed Trice. And while these are played out on BrainKing, the ultimate responsibility for all moneys is down to Gothic Inventor, and nothing to do with BK. (That was my understanding of the tournament anyway!)

10. November 2003, 18:20:48
Felix 
Subject: Re: this site is... by Pip 39 {posted 04:26 yesterday..}
I tried 2 times to send my previous message, but got the "temperarilly down" screen. That's why you see the same thing 3 times: I sent it 3 times, thinking it did not go through.

10. November 2003, 18:20:18
Rose 
Subject: Re: this site is... by Pip 39 {posted 04:26 yesterday..}
Fastest way to cure that is have the person who said they sent you the payment call their bank and cancel the cheque. Reissue a second cheque to you send it by registered mail so that you are guaranteed to receive your money with in the week.. Easy enough to do, doesnt cost more then a few extra pennies to ensure someone is indeed getting their money back. Shows good faith in my opinion. It is how I run my business!

10. November 2003, 18:16:10
Felix 
Subject: Re: this site is... by Pip 39 {posted 04:26 yesterday..}
Rose, I signed up for the Gothic World Championship tournament long before most others did, in July, but when too few respondents paid their entrance fees, the creator of the tournament postponed the start date without notifying me. When I tried to make my first moves on the announced start day, the site had no event running by that name. Later, I found out that refunds were given to other early respondents, except not to me. The creator told me via e-mail that I would get a refund by mail. I e-mailed my address to him, and he acknowledged receipt of same. No check has arrived. Promises, yes; check, no. No check.

10. November 2003, 18:16:00
Felix 
Subject: Re: this site is... by Pip 39 {posted 04:26 yesterday..}
Rose, I signed up for the Gothic World Championship tournament long before most others did, in July, but when too few respondents paid their entrance fees, the creator of the tournament postponed the start date without notifying me. When I tried to make my first moves on the announced start day, the site had no event running by that name. Later, I found out that refunds were given to other early respondents, except not to me. The creator told me via e-mail that I would get a refund by mail. I e-mailed my address to him, and he acknowledged receipt of same. No check has arrived. Promises, yes; check, no. No check.

10. November 2003, 18:15:21
Felix 
Subject: Re: this site is... by Pip 39 {posted 04:26 yesterday..}
Rose, I signed up for the Gothic World Championship tournament long before most others did, in July, but when too few respondents paid their entrance fees, the creator of the tournament postponed the start date without notifying me. When I tried to make my first moves on the announced start day, the site had no event running by that name. Later, I found out that refunds were given to other early respondents, except not to me. The creator told me via e-mail that I would get a refund by mail. I e-mailed my address to him, and he acknowledged receipt of same. No check has arrived. Promises, yes; check, no. No check.

10. November 2003, 18:04:05
Rose 
Subject: Re: this site is... by Pip 39 {posted 04:26 yesterday..}
refund for what felix?

10. November 2003, 17:59:36
Felix 
Subject: Re: this site is... by Pip 39 {posted 04:26 yesterday..}
Anybody expecting a "refund" should be aware that while you might be justified in getting one, while you might be promised one, and while you might even be assured again and again that it was indeed sent to you, you will not receive it. How do I know? It happened to me. I sent in $50, which cleared the bank, was assured that it was mailed back to me two months ago (before the data crash ever happened) and now all I get is promises, but no do-re-me: hear what I'm sayin? Felix is not impressed. Of course, I'll take it all back when the check arrives, but I'm not holding my breath. Usually, when I try to log on BrainKing is "temprarilly down" which should be stated otherwise, like, "most often down," or "normally down."

10. November 2003, 08:47:54
harley 
Mystery Man, to avoid a game being left on my game sheet as MY turn, I do a move, then click the 'offer draw' button before submitting the game. That way, the draw AND the game goes over to your opponent and you don't have to keep avoiding the game.

10. November 2003, 07:40:00
Bernice 
this was lost or deleted or both....so i will try again, taking the work IDIOTS out :)

Well I also was one complaining about the lethargy with which some moved. I agree ...when it happens to you, you do get upset...Gothic, I feel for you BUT...it gave me a bit of a laugh, because a couple of members here were wondering what you and Dano talked about..ROFLMBO....
Im happy that the site went down because now i can get rid of the SLOW PLAYING PERSONS...and you know who you are:)
I would rather resign..if you dont accept my offer of a draw...than play with you :)

10. November 2003, 07:34:49
danoschek 
Subject: Backup Strategy On Brainking
I spare my appropriate comment about that
like it did, before to not 'touch open wounds' ... :(

Bet it will be debated yet.

What I'm glad though to comment
:) *Happy Birthday Filip* be there
health and luck in a new year of your life.

Luck which is not needed altogether btw to ensure
data-losses remaining in between the range of one day ...
oooops ... anyway - grrrrr ;) ... ~*~

10. November 2003, 05:54:01
MsDelete 
Subject: Re: Was Fencer Knighted?? LoL
lol You're welcome : )
Happy Birthday Fencer!!!! : ))))

10. November 2003, 05:50:30
Mystery Man 
Subject: Re: Was Fencer Knighted?? LoL
today is his birthday..? by all means, enjoy your day my good man!! oh, you and MsDelete are right, the "draw" bridge is working just the way you say.. it's been a while that i used that button (once or twice) so you tend to forget how it does work.. maybe a delete button won't be needed after all.. lol...
Thanx to both of you.. :)

10. November 2003, 05:13:10
MsDelete 
Subject: Re: Fencer, sir..
The draw button is working. When you choose to issue a draw then your opponent is given an opportunity to respond. That is why the games are still showing on your game sheet. After you ask for a draw your opponent has the option to accept or decline the draw.

10. November 2003, 05:11:49
The Listener 
Subject: Was Fencer Knighted?? LoL
No, but seriously, I must say Mystery Man, the 'Draw' system is working perfectly well. You see, all game sites (including ItsYourTurn) require you to Wait for your opponent to accept your 'draw' offer. Until such time, the game remains on your move, but you do not move, you wait (unless your opponent declines the offer).

I've almost got all my games in order, with just one person who I'm waiting to accept my draw offer. After that, everything should be back to 'normal'.

Although, there is the 'Books & Stories' DB business that calls for a bit of attention. But there's no rush. It's Fencer's B-day, he should party instead of work! :·)

             ~ MS

10. November 2003, 05:05:42
Mystery Man 
Subject: Fencer, sir..
I',m not sure if you'll be able to retrieve any of what was lost, but with the asumption that you can not, can you "install" a DELETE button (maybe only temporary) for those (me included) that do not wish to or want to "re-play" games that have already been played, so if we choose, we may delete these games without penalties..? (since the "draw" system doesn't seem to be working properly) Maybe this would put a smile on some of the.. maybe not angry, but unhappy faces..
Thank you Sir'Fencer.. :)

10. November 2003, 04:35:22
Mystery Man 
Subject: harley... "Draws" - click and submit
When one chooses to call for a "draw" to a game, clicks on draw, writes a message and then submits, WHY (when i get back to the main page) do i still have that game sitting there, waiting for "ME" to play..?? In fact, all the games i went in and asked for a draw are still on "my turn to play" side of the page and not the opponents side..
Can you please look into this..?? Thanx!!

10. November 2003, 02:19:17
Vikings 
What happens to all the tournements that havent started that have september dates?

10. November 2003, 01:07:57
TexasToest 
Sorry, harley. I've deleted my post. We got carried away in a discussion about battleboats.

10. November 2003, 00:28:27
Uil 
Subject: Re: Backups
normal procedure for business people is to make back ups daily on different media (zips, tapes or hard disks). This way you have 7 different back ups a week and they can not get corrupted all at the same time!

9. November 2003, 21:49:54
Skyking 
Alot of other gamesites have these glitches too so we're not the only ones that get knocked of the sites

9. November 2003, 20:17:30
harley 
Err, for what?!

9. November 2003, 20:10:39
Andersp 
thanks Harley :)

9. November 2003, 20:09:39
harley 
Are there any more questions for CaoZ's interview? I'm going to leave this open a bit longer because of the site going down, and people have been busy sorting things out. So if you have any questions, send me them!

The last interview can be read here... INTERVIEW WITH.... FENCER

It might give you some ideas for questions for CaoZ!

PS, Medic & TR, can you take the guns convo elsewhere please?! Cheers :o)

9. November 2003, 20:06:06
harley 
Gramps, things are backed up, but there was also a problem in that area too. All the backed up files were lost. Its just one of those things.

9. November 2003, 20:04:42
sandra... 
Subject: Re: Backups
gramps ... if you read brainking info. it tells you all you need to know there! the site went back to september.. and backups were done regularly.. disks do get corrupted.. even back ups!!!

9. November 2003, 19:59:12
LongJohn GZ 
Subject: Backups
Seems to me a lot of the recent problem was caused by not backing up often enough. Looks to me like the site was restored back yo July.

May I suggest a weekly backup from now on. This is likely the most embarrassing thing that can possible happen in the computing world. Sort of like a mechanic forgetting to tighten the wheel nuts.

9. November 2003, 16:09:01
Usurper 
Subject: Prediction
I've said it before and now will do so again:

BrainKing will be a MAJOR success and grow by leaps and bounds in the near future. It's the best gamesite on the Web now, in terms of its management and structure. Once the glitches are worked out there will be no looking back.

9. November 2003, 16:06:10
TexasToest 
^5 b-b. I started to go without saying anything. But, I have to say if I said anything to the whiners here, it would be so harsh I could probably never show my face again. So, I'll abbreviate and just say: games=fun.

9. November 2003, 13:41:58
bumble 
And your membership has been extended, Pip39.

9. November 2003, 13:28:48
sandra... 
pip if you read brainking info its all there :)

9. November 2003, 13:26:26
PIP J 
Subject: this site is so mixed up
games that have been played have come back again people dont know what is going on the discussions are all mixed up NOT BEEN FUNY LIKE BUT PEOPLE SHOULD GET A REFUND FOR THIS

9. November 2003, 07:27:28
danoschek 
Subject: yeah lady battleboats plus
no maneuvers !
heading straight in, guns blarring ...
- no prisoners either ... 0:) ~*~

9. November 2003, 06:28:09
TexasToest 
Me too. We carry six shooters here in Texas, and I'm more used to that. *smirks and walks out*

9. November 2003, 06:22:46
Stevie 
Mrloupcity, if you take a peek at features board, youll see boats plus is on the to do list :o) I look forward to that version too .

9. November 2003, 06:19:23
DeaD man WalkiN 
Subject: Now to y I came here to write a ? about adding a game
BK was just wanting to know if maybe sometime soon u may add a 5 shoot boat game? TNP as long as they r not me.
:o{P``````

8. November 2003, 21:17:25
Crissie 
i have a ton of games that i don't know who won or lost ... so if you are playing against me and remember please let me know so i can resign the appropriate games... thanks!! :o)

8. November 2003, 07:11:52
TexasToest 
^5 eddie

7. November 2003, 23:05:48
eddie spaghetti 
Subject: hi
if anyone who has a game with me thats back and you know you won it and want me to resign it just ask me and i will no problem i went from like 150 to over 300 games i have no clue what i won or loss ..i do not care if i won or not wins and losses are just that if i won it and you want to just play it thru its all good i just need time to get caught up...thanxx and try not to be to mad at this site.. its still worth the wait for it to be right..good gaming folks....

7. November 2003, 19:35:59
rgbdbg 
Subject: Removing games...
Fencer, could you please remove all my existing games without affecting my BKR? I had finished all my games with these opponents and will be leaving on extended holiday shorty.

7. November 2003, 19:32:28
coan.net 
Subject: Cost
Well there are many different cost to running a game site like this.

1. Hardware - you can look on BrainKing.info to view what hardware is being used now (which is actually too small of machines to run this game site.... but will give you an idea of what it would cost to get hardware like that and/or better.

2. Connection - you need to have the game site connected to the internet with a quick connection (T1)

3. Software - Software that will be on the game site (OS, database, etc...)

4. Programmer (or programming skills) - you will need to know how to program and/or hire someone who can do it for you... someone to "make" the games and trouble shoot them.

5. Database Admin - either you need to know how to run the database, or hire someone who knows how.

6. Other support staff. For a site like BrainKing, Fencer takes care of most of this - but if this site was to grow even larger, sooner or later he would have to get someone to help answer request, e-mails, etc...

... those are the cost that come to the top of my head - I'm sure there are others, I just can't think of them right now.

7. November 2003, 19:18:11
sandra... 
i wouldn't think it was cheap at all High Tide.. and also what you put into a gamesite would reflect on the cost too!!!!!

7. November 2003, 18:59:14
Joseph S 
does anybody know the cost of running a game site...

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