Mousetrap: I can forgive and forget. It is hard to follow the stream of conversation on a site such as this. Even if one notices the time stamps, it doesn't mean that a reponse is out of line if it comes weeks later. The subject itself is not an easy one to solve, and using examples in some of the arguments has made a casual reader or two think the discussion should be held in various different discussion boards. Where it's at now seems to be a good place (BrainKing.com) and it appears that it's dwindling down as we've all had a say or two about it and will just have to move on without being able to do much about it except understand each other's point of view concerning it.