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3. March 2011, 16:02:11
Bwild 
Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.

* In 1993, behavioral scientists William O'Donohue and Christine Caselles concluded that the usage of the term "as it is usually used, makes an illegitimately pejorative evaluation of certain open and debatable value positions, much like the former disease construct of homosexuality" itself, arguing that the term may be used as an ad hominem argument against those who advocate values or positions of which the speaker does not approve. The social construct of masculinity is not defined by attraction to females alone but also by negative attraction to males. The implication of a fear of something unmasculine, given the term's scientific etymology, may be used illegitimately to imply that anyone with a different opinion is unmasculine.[21]
* A group of psychologists from the University of Arkansas conducted research that showed that participants' responses were not fear-based but reflected a disapproval of homosexuality that was due to other factors, such as "disgust".[22]
* The National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality, an organization affiliated with the ex-gay movement, describes the term homophobia as being "often used inaccurately to describe any person who objects to homosexual behavior on either moral, psychological or medical grounds." They state that, "Technically, however, the terms actually denotes a person who has a phobia — or irrational fear — of homosexuality. Principled disagreement, therefore, cannot be labeled 'homophobia.'"[23]

3. March 2011, 22:03:12
Ferris Bueller 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.

Bwild: It is agreed that the terms surrounding homophobia are often recklessly & reactionarily thrown around by those us who advocate for LGBT inclusiveness.  It often does not enhance constructive dialogue.


It is also true, however, that the American Psychiatric Association and all other reputable professional psychological organization reject reparitive therapy for homosexuality, and many studies verify therapies which try to change sexual orientation are harmful.  It is, therefore, submitted that any finding by an "ex-gay" organization is suspect.


In addition, it is also true that many of the most vehement anti-gay politicians are caught with hands in the proverbial cookie jar.  They deserve to be taken to task by Gay rights activists.


4. March 2011, 04:07:05
Bwild 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Ferris Bueller: imo...lgbt is a morel issue...same as incest and pedophilia.

4. March 2011, 04:21:25
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Tuesday: However, homosexuality is mentioned more in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy than adultery.

4. March 2011, 04:24:36
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Tuesday: … so you brought up a book.

4. March 2011, 04:35:40
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Tuesday: So why are doing the same thing yourself? Do you need a book to tell you what is more “moral”?

4. March 2011, 04:49:44
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Tuesday: I don't twist what you said. You said that adultery is mentioned more in a book than homosexuality. I say: SO WHAT?

4. March 2011, 05:18:06
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Tuesday: “imo...lgbt is a morel issue...same as incest and pedophilia”

What book? Well, I don't see any reference to any book in his post.

4. March 2011, 22:29:43
Pedro Martínez 
Subject: and the moral compass is..........?
Tuesday: … in your head

4. March 2011, 07:08:22
Ferris Bueller 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Bwild: Sexual orientation has no moral connection or equivelency to pedophilia or incest, which are non-consentual violations of children.  Besides, most people who engage in those 2 practices are heterosexual.  Equating homosexuality with those things is an unfounded scare tactic that has been around for a long, long time.  MLK said that "no lie can live forever", but this one is very persistent and harmful.

4. March 2011, 10:58:31
Bwild 
Subject: Re: Use of homophobia, homophobic, and homophobe has been criticized as pejorative against those with differing value positions.
Ferris Bueller: "Sexual orientation has no moral connection or equivelency to pedophilia or incest, which are non-consentual violations of children. "
non-consensual is rape. big difference.

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