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3. January 2004, 14:10:07
noholdsbarred 
Subject: The cynics view
Charity....
True charity is discreet and needs no publicity...
It is the lending of a helping hand to those in need...
BK is not a necessity of life... Surely the funds could be put to better use where lives could be saved...
Given recent experience .. does anybody believe it will not be abused?
Those who cannot afford the luxury of paid membership already get the basics for free...
If you can afford the ISP charges, phone bills and computer then if you want more you can afford that as well.
So look at the statistics for whatever country you come from... in England how many die for lack of Kidney Dialysis... how many children cannot reach the abuse helpline (run by charity) or samaritans or salvation army or any of a hundred genuine causes that save lives or relieve pain or suffering...
Rather than a token effort here, go quietly forth and when you see someone stranded or in difficulties or even that you can help just because you have skills or equipment... just do it... seek no reward and no publicity and enjoy the quiet satisfaction of having made a difference... however small...

3. January 2004, 14:21:19
Cole 
Subject: Re: The cynics view
This is a GAME Site.
It is for the playing of GAMES!
When I first found BK, I couldn't afford the membership, which is why I was so glad it was free for pawns to play.
Later I did buy a membership, but if someone had offered to sponser me a Rook membership, I would have been thrilled. And I would be the first to Pay it Foreward when I could.
Possibly you could start a fellowship to help out others in the world, if not by people donating money, then at least to raise the level of consciousness to the plight of others in the world.

3. January 2004, 14:34:03
noholdsbarred 
Subject: Re: The cynics view
Case histories of which we are aware;-
Fake Id's getting sponsored...
People saying they would rather buy a DVD...
I am not a bleeding heart liberal and as so rightly pointed out this is a games site. It is not something that is vital to the survival of the individual.
I do not, nor ever will, tell people how to spend their money or comport themselves (except within the bounds of social acceptability).
A public statement was made that memberships would be subscribed for. However worthy an idea given what is available for free I would suggest that individuals could find better causes for the money.

3. January 2004, 17:26:49
Czuch 
Subject: Re: The cynics view
Sounds like sour grapes to me, Noholds...Especially frome someone with a Nic like yours.(As the term No Holds Barred, means that anything goes) You say that you will never tell someone how to spend their money, yet "suggest" That they could find better causes for their money??? If that is your logic, I would suggest that no matter how anyone spends their money, there could always be a better use for it!
Sorry, as a non paying member, I am not allowed to post in the Debate forum...

3. January 2004, 14:35:17
Cole 
Subject: Re: The cynics view
PS...I wasn't being condesending about the idea of you starting up a Fellowship. I think you have a big heart, and I would be the first to join.

4. January 2004, 19:27:12
Lythande 
Subject: Re: The cynics view
1) Having a computer connected to a phone line through an ISP doesn't necessarily mean you 'can afford it'.

2) Just because you can manage to struggle through #1 most definitely does *not* infer you can afford more.

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