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12. April 2004, 08:52:42
Fencer 
They want to verify your identity by faxing or e-mailing a copy of ID card with photo. I did it yesterday, now waiting for a response.

12. April 2004, 03:10:42
Kevin 
It looks like you don't need a credit card to add funds to your moneybookers.com account either - i was looking through it and it gave you the option of a credit card or bank account...

12. April 2004, 01:23:59
Artful Dodger 
That's how PayPal works Kevin so you're probably right. Then, once the funds are uploaded, I can just transfer the funds to the BK account. Sounds easy enuf and if it works better for Fencer, all the better. It may create a problem for some that don't hold a credit card though. You don't need one with PayPal.

11. April 2004, 22:48:46
Kevin 
I took uploading funds to mean adding funds to your account (so you could pay someone directly from your account rather than with a credit card or whatever)...

11. April 2004, 22:47:52
Kevin 
lol Fencer - what about people who register on both...? :-)

11. April 2004, 22:11:01
Artful Dodger 
Subject: I would do it
It seems that there is a 3% fee to upload the funds (I assume that mean to make a payment...upload funds to make a payment? 3% is not much. One would need a credit card though (from the US))

11. April 2004, 21:59:18
MadMonkey 
I think anything you offer a little extra for Fencer, people will prefer to use.

11. April 2004, 21:28:08
Fencer 
Hmmm, what if I give some bonus for people who register there instead of on PayPal? :-)

11. April 2004, 21:20:22
Kevin 
You're welcome Fencer! Just glad i can support this site... :-)

re: moneybookers.com

I had a brief look at it, and from what i saw it looked good - very small charge to pay (1% to a maximum of 0.50 EUR), and it said you don't need an account to pay someone. The only bad thing is it doesn't look like they support paypal :-( Oh well... :-)

11. April 2004, 20:07:34
Stevie 
Subject: Re:
ahhhhhhh just had it pointed out, that not counted ones dont show up on stats. I didnt realise there was a difference LOL

11. April 2004, 19:57:31
Stevie 
Thanks

11. April 2004, 19:56:51
Fencer 
Unrated games show up on statistics.

11. April 2004, 19:51:55
Stevie 
Fencer,
do unrated games show up on statistics even though they dont affect bkr?
or do they just not show up on anything?

11. April 2004, 08:49:55
Fencer 
Subject: Money transfers
Congrats Kevin and thanks for your great support :-)
Now, let me describe my current problem. I am not satisfied with Swreg.org where I keep my e-store to process BK membership payments. That's why I am currently looking for an alternative.
PayPal is not possible, for some strange reason our country is not in their list of eligible countries.
However, I've found MoneyBookers.com which is suited especially for international users [me] and looks very interesting. Does anybody have experiences with them?

10. April 2004, 18:58:44
Stevie 
Well done you 4 :o)

10. April 2004, 18:56:56
PrettyBlueEyes 
Subject: Re: Membership Competition (Finally!!)
Thank you for having this competition Kevin it was fun! And Thank You so very much for my membership!! :-)

10. April 2004, 18:48:10
Kevin 
Subject: Membership Competition (Finally!!)
Now that the payment has FINALLY been process i can announce the winners (in case you haven't discovered who they are...)

1. chrislim - 36,826 * 9 = 331,434
2. Bill Bevins - 39,226 * 8 = 313,808
3. SueQ - 28,420 * 8 = 227,360 (Submitted by BIG BAD WOLF)
4. PrettyBlueEyes - 12,526 * 5 = 62,630

Thank you to everyone who entered. I'm sorry i couldn't award a membership to everyone who entered :-(

10. April 2004, 15:46:25
MadMonkey 
Subject: ! Alphabet Soup !
For those of you in the fellowship, but have not seen the DB there yet, please read A.S.A.P. - Important Notice

10. April 2004, 07:32:31
Artful Dodger 
Subject: oh an
be sure to put next to my link:

"submitted by AD" :) j/k

10. April 2004, 07:31:39
Artful Dodger 
Subject: yeah well
connect my links too! :) They're cool. The currency calculator is real handy. All in a day's work.

Oh yeah, Good idea BBW!

10. April 2004, 07:16:03
Fencer 
Good idea BBW.

10. April 2004, 06:57:27
Artful Dodger 
Subject: I've used this one...

10. April 2004, 05:42:00
coan.net 
Subject: HEY FENCER!
Hey Fencer - you should put a link to www.xe.com on the Paid Membership page - so people will have an easy link to convert membership prices!

10. April 2004, 05:41:20
Bluefin 
Thanks BIG BAD WOLF :-)))

10. April 2004, 05:39:10
coan.net 
www.xe.com - Great "exchange rate" site.

16EUR = $19.28 US

10. April 2004, 05:37:28
Bluefin 
Can some one please tell me how much 16.00 Eur is in American dollars ?

9. April 2004, 11:34:44
harley 
I do, Bernice! (But that really should be on the feature request board, and Goodfoods post should be on the tourney board!! *sigh* :oP Happy Easter!)

9. April 2004, 08:27:58
Bernice 
Subject: Suggestion?
not being one to run invitation tourneys, as a suggestion maybe in the BK.v2

Put an option to invite your whole fellowship or similar,(and then delete the ones you dont require) instead of having to go into everybody's profile and send individual invitations...

just a thought....does anybody else feel annoyed (not annoyed, but grrrrr :) :)) at having to go into each individual profile???

9. April 2004, 08:17:00
Bernice 
HAPPY EASTER

9. April 2004, 06:38:08
goodfoods 
Subject: tourney
hey, anyone still playing Parachute Checkers here, i have a tourney that needs players so ican start it, come on and join!!

8. April 2004, 22:53:14
LongJohn GZ 
from this point on, all Rook memberships will receive a bonus Queen every 10 moves

8. April 2004, 22:18:22
Rogue Lion 
As I am a paying member who only plays chess, can we please add dice to the game so that I too may have an unfair advantage! Oooops, off to the feature request board... :-)

8. April 2004, 22:14:37
Antje 
and, if you are the top mover for the day, you get bonus doubles! ;o)

8. April 2004, 22:01:12
LongJohn GZ 
Subject: Imagine the advertisement from Fencer
THE MORE MONEY YOU PAY FOR YOUR MEMBERSHIP, THE BETTER YOUR DICE WILL BE !!!!!!!

Gonna have to get a 2nd job to support my BK Rating LOL

8. April 2004, 21:56:21
coan.net 
Paying members are able to play more games, giving them more rolls, giving them more doubles. But on average, it all works out.

Reminds me of a person who was complaining about this same thing months ago..... and he complained while that the dice were against him, yet he had a 2000+ rating!

(But if you really thin paying members get better dice - send in your $$ to Fencer now to upgrade your membership!) <wink wink>

8. April 2004, 21:55:13
LongJohn GZ 
might be 35 to 1 odds but that is only for a particular double. The odds are still 1 in 6 of rolling "a" double

8. April 2004, 21:53:48
Fencer 
I'm not going to answer such ridiculous questions again. Read the backgammon rules. Is there anything about paying members?

8. April 2004, 21:52:45
harley 
Subject: Re: member benefits
Dice are definitely random :o) For everyone.

8. April 2004, 21:52:15
Artful Dodger 
the odds of rolling any double are 35 to 1

8. April 2004, 21:34:33
LongJohn GZ 
1 in 6 chance of rolling a double.
That suggests they should appear very regularly, lets say, ummmmmm, approx once every 6 rolls.

I used to think these sorta things happened too until I really took a good look back and realized that it was truly random.

Remember also, random does not mean evenly distributed at all times, random also means that clusters will occasionally occur too.

8. April 2004, 21:30:39
Stevie 
Subject: Re: member benefits
OK I will repost my ON topic post then, and say that my last comment was on topic too, because I was asking something would not be used on BK anymore.

Previous post:--
I know this has been asked before, but is there any reality over this more doubles for paying members in backgammon?

Ive been watching some of my games recently and it does seem to happen.

8. April 2004, 21:22:09
Fencer 
Can you stop this off-topic discussion, please?

8. April 2004, 21:08:12
Stevie 
You didnt have to take the whole post away LOL just 3 letters

8. April 2004, 18:33:32
DeaD man WalkiN 
ok stevie it gone now.

8. April 2004, 18:32:25
DeaD man WalkiN 
Fine them like i said will just go back to my corner and remove my remarks TYVM.

8. April 2004, 17:55:17
Cole 
Subject: Re: Hope people don't mind
....ouch...don't EVEN want to open up the 'TNP' can of worms...but on this one, I have to agree with Steve.

8. April 2004, 17:35:20
LongJohn GZ 
steel mesh gloves may be better lol

8. April 2004, 17:34:05
Cole 
....offers bottle of 'New Skin' to LJ

8. April 2004, 17:31:54
LongJohn GZ 
actually, as far as handyman status goes, I got me 10 thumbbs here.
I would probably cut them off handling scissors.
My wife says I am accident prone but it has been more than a week since I cut myself in the kitchen so I am getting better

8. April 2004, 17:27:49
Cole 
:D Thanks

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