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11. februára 2008, 09:58:54
Hrqls 
Subjekt: Re:
there is a link to an article on the blog site on top of this board. you dont have to search for the 3 links in fencer's post

you can post your complaints in here
there are other subjects on this board though which might be buried when everytime when someone encounters a slow connection to brainking posts a message about it ... this other subjects deserve some attention as well

when posting it on the blog site it will be summarized, everyone can get a quick overview and its even easier to see how many people have problems with the connection to brainking (those posts wont be buried by other posts on this board)

i hope its clear now that you can post your complaints on here, but its more structured to post it at the blog site, and other subjects on this board might also come in view that way :)

11. februára 2008, 03:05:50
NOT a floosie 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: *3* Well, it does keep it off the main page here where prospective members might see it and change their minds about becoming a member.

11. februára 2008, 01:58:35
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:
AbigailII: LOL...true but i dont think anyone should read any of those 500 complaints :)

11. februára 2008, 01:52:03
AbigailII 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: Well, the advantage of ranting on the blog is that you can use a different name (someone elses name for instance), and create an account under that name.

In fact, you could create 500 accounts and have 500 people complaining how slow the site is.

11. februára 2008, 01:19:09
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:
Eriisa: Sure...next time a paying member wants to inform the site owner that Brain king is very slow he/she must try to find one of Fencer's three links, then try to register to the blog and then type the post hoping that at least someone shall see it.

Do you really believe that anyone will do that?

11. februára 2008, 00:54:37
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re:
Hrqls: i guess I'm just missing something.... it surely seems to me that the best place to post about the site performance would be at the blog entry that is dedicated to the site performance.

A post would not get over-run by other topic posts as happens a lot on these boards.

10. februára 2008, 21:55:14
The Col 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: That was my initial though,it's not good for business to have unhappy campers in full view of prospective customers

10. februára 2008, 20:51:53
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:

Hrqls:  I think Fencer gave us the rules, i couldnt find


http://brainking.com/en/Board?bc=1&brt=863306


in his post.


Freedom of speech...sure but speak where noone can hear you


10. februára 2008, 20:45:15
Hrqls 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: about the sites performance : here or on the blog site or on general chat or the computer board or features request

as long as the posts are in line with the subject of the board

as said before : constructive posts are the most welcome ones :)

10. februára 2008, 20:43:19
Fencer 
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10. februára 2008, 20:41:54
The Col 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: We can have an ABBA night,just say the word

10. februára 2008, 20:39:39
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:
Fencer: ..and where can people post comments about the site's performance?

10. februára 2008, 20:35:29
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:
Jim Dandy: Nah..the music board isnt on my favorite list anymore 

10. februára 2008, 20:33:49
Mousetrap 
Subjekt: Re: Song
Jim Dandy: I have a good one for that lmbo!

10. februára 2008, 20:33:47
MadMonkey 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: I asked for one ages ago, and the answer i got is quite true

We have one, its called General Chat

10. februára 2008, 20:33:11
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: The blog comments section is the best place to post blog comments.

10. februára 2008, 20:31:26
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:
Hrqls: I asked in Feature requests if we could have a board to post blog comments but he has probably been too busy to give me an answer yet.

10. februára 2008, 20:30:00
The Col 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: I figure if you sang your discontent,it would qaulify for the music,board,but maybe that's just me trying to drum up some business

10. februára 2008, 20:21:49
Hrqls 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: by posting the comments into the blog they would be collected there and it gives an even better structure .. almost like having a different thread

(i would love separate threads on the discussion boards .. i love structure :))

constructive comments or ideas on how to improve the sites performance are always welcome on this board ..

(of course thats my opinion as the mod of this board, while the comment you quoted is from the site owner on his blog site ;))

10. februára 2008, 20:17:30
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:

Hrqls: This is from Fencer's blog


Do not use BrainKing public discussion boards for this purpose. in particular - meaningful comments can be posted here instead), Bug me not! or BrainKing site performance again.



 


10. februára 2008, 20:10:56
Hrqls 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: freedom of speech is allowed .. just use the appropriate channels for it .. lets try to keep this place a bit structured

10. februára 2008, 20:09:32
Hrqls 
Subjekt: Re:
Andersp: its allowed to discuss the bad perfomance of brainking on this board .. its definetly about brainking .. and its definetly allowed as you can see below

discussing the internal workings of the chatroom should more belong on the computer board, but the announcement as done below is allowed on here

10. februára 2008, 20:05:02
Andersp 
Subjekt: Re:

Eriisa: The chatroom isnt a problem, you may create 20 chatrooms..i dont care :)


But to forbid discussion about the sites performance and allow discussion about a chatroom on the


"Board for everybody who is interested in BrainKing itself, its structure, features and future"


doesnt make sense to me.


think i saw the expression "freedom of speech' somewhere


10. februára 2008, 19:58:38
Eriisa 
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Andersp: the chatroom was set up specifically for brainking users to use for brainking chat.

this is a problem why?

10. februára 2008, 19:57:47
MadMonkey 
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Andersp: Thats what its there for , as long as its clean discussion, you can talk about what you like

10. februára 2008, 19:53:59
Andersp 

So, ...its NOT allowed to discuss Brain Kings bad performance on this board, but discussing Monkeys and Erisas chatroom is ok...right?


 


10. februára 2008, 17:58:25
MadMonkey 
Subjekt: Re: ChatZilla & mIRC
Eriisa: ahhh, but without you, we would not have sorted it

10. februára 2008, 17:15:31
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re: ChatZilla & mIRC
MadMonkey: lol, not thanks to me! I just helped.

10. februára 2008, 17:06:32
MadMonkey 
Subjekt: ChatZilla & mIRC
Well, thanks to Eriisa, we seem to have ChatZilla working and BrainKing has its own Channel (Live Discussion Board / Chatroom)

ChatZilla is a Firefox Extension, and is an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client. In other words, a place to create a Live Discussion Board or Chat Room

Those of you that have used any form of IRC (Interent Relay Chat) before should have no problem finding it on the dalnet server.

Everyone on BrainKing is welcome to log into it, whether by ChatZilla or any other IRC program.

So, please just download ChatZilla, follow the Instructions and hopefully you will find Myself & Eriisa there

Those using any other form of IRC, i am sure will know how to get there , just type /join #brainking from the dalnet server.

There is no real reason to create a live discuccion forum as such, but it has been talked about many times on BrainKing.

This is just a nice way to do it in the form of a Firefox Extension and just for BrainKing users

The room is there all the time, and hopefully an Operator (Eriisa & myself at present, more will be added) will be there to help answer any questions.

So if you just fancy a chat with friends or there is a problem with the site and you want somewhere to go and vent yourself(within reason), you now have somewhere to go LOL

Come and join us either through ChatZilla OR any IRC provider

(6 People found it already lol)

10. februára 2008, 15:56:31
Czuch 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
pauloaguia: Czechoslovakia hasn't existed over a decade now

Thanks, I think I knew that and why I wrote it that way I am not sure

10. februára 2008, 10:04:35
pauloaguia 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
Czuch: The problem is, that if that were the reason for problems here, it would not be a unique problem just for this site alone, would it?
It depends on where the problem lies... if it's a problem closer to the server, then you may only notice it on a few sites (those at the same host that BK.com, for instance).
Why only some people complain about it is what I think doesn't fit into this theory, not the fact that itonly affects one site.

The only reason I can think of is perhaps this is the only very commonly used web site that hails from the Czech Republic, and perhaps if we were all using another site from Czechoslovakia, we would find similar inconsistencies that we see now?
Which is why I suggest people check to see BK.info when they have problems with BK.com. They're hosted on different machines (I think) and at the same provider... if people only have problems with BK.com then I'll start supporting the "server problem theory" again.

P.S: Czechoslovakia hasn't existed over a decade now

10. februára 2008, 09:54:50
pauloaguia 
Subjekt: Re:
nodnarbo: Sometimes the button doesn't appear when you click a game directly from the MainPage... I think the idea is - if you choose a specific game then you shouldn't want to play it later (I don't aggree with this principle but that's how it works - fortunatelly it's only some of the times)
coan.netThe button shows up in lightweight version.

10. februára 2008, 06:14:39
nodnarbo 
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srnity: OK haha hiding right in front of my eyes, wow...

10. februára 2008, 05:39:44
coan.net 
Subjekt: Re:
nodnarbo: A lot of the options and extra things like that were removed from the "lightweight" version - so if you are using that, that could be why you don't see it.

10. februára 2008, 05:10:56
srnity 
Subjekt: Re:
nodnarbo: The big ole "Play Later" button down on the left-hand-side right below the gameboard? It's still there, thank goodness, I love that button

10. februára 2008, 05:05:13
Eriisa 
Subjekt: Re:
nodnarbo: maybe it was all a dream........

10. februára 2008, 04:47:11
nodnarbo 
is it just me or has the 'play this game later' (or whatever it was) button disappeared? (or was that button only ever a figment of my imagination like the last 'feature that changed suddenly' )

10. februára 2008, 00:33:11
Czuch 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
pauloaguia: The internet can be very unstable sometimes...

The problem is, that if that were the reason for problems here, it would not be a unique problem just for this site alone, would it?

I dont hear one person saying the problems they find here are similar to what they are finding at other sites?

The only reason I can think of is perhaps this is the only very commonly used web site that hails from the Czech Republic, and perhaps if we were all using another site from Czechoslovakia, we would find similar inconsistencies that we see now?

10. februára 2008, 00:02:57
beach 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
rod03801: Thanks Rod, I was finally able to post a comment, I was just not going down the page far enough

9. februára 2008, 23:51:25
pauloaguia 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
Czuch: But you have yet to address the reason Brainking seems to be so inconsistent between uses by the same user? Why are some days "normal" and other days with "problems"? Why is it different for Brainking than for other sites that all appear to be at least consistently good or poor?
The theory about problems in the connection between the user and the server is consistent with this symptoms - one hour you can be directed through a quick, less congestioned route; other times you can b routed through half way accross the world before getting to the destination. The internet can be very unstable sometimes...

All this recent talk about BrainKing.info just made me think about one thing though - if the problem is indeed in the route between the user and the server, then I guess people also have problems with the BrainKing.info site? I mean, the pages can be 2-4 times smaller than the regular BK.com pages but for the people complaining about the pages taking over 30sec to load I'm sure they'll notice some slowness too...
If, on the other hand, BK.info pages take only a couple of seconds to load, then other alternate theories should be considered...
And anyway, it's an alternative to test for people that say they don't know of other sites in Czech Republic to test from...

(For the record, I think that this is the most likelly theory... but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be proved somehow)

9. februára 2008, 23:21:33
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
Zmenené užívateľom rod03801 (9. februára 2008, 23:24:25)
rod03801: I just went and had a look. The "User Self Registration" is the part that CAN be confused as the log in area. It isn't. The correct log in area, is just below the area that lists recent "comments". (On the right hand side of the page.) You will see "User Self Registration".. then "Comments", (with a list of.. um.. about 15 recent comments to different blog entries), then "Powered by Serendipity", then "Author Log in"

9. februára 2008, 23:19:04
rod03801 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
beach: No, there is obviously something not being done correctly. (Not surprising, as it can be a bit confusing). I just posted a comment on the blog just fine. To reply to a post, scroll further down on the page to the log in. (There is an area that at a quick glance looks like the log in, but it isn't. I recommend scrolling ALL the way down, and gradually scrolling up. You will then see the appropriate log in area.) Once you log in, you will then see the "reply" links. When the blog first came about, I had a hard time, and found I was trying to log in to the wrong area. Give it a try.

9. februára 2008, 23:18:32
pauloaguia 
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Fencer: The comment form will only be displayed if you are already logged in. If not you have to click the "log in" link (in tvery tiny letters at the bottomof the page), log in, be sent to a weird page that seems to be an administration menu of some sort, click the "back to weblog ink", find the entry you want to comment and click the "comments" link and finally scroll down to the log in form.

With practice this takes just a few seconds, but it's boring nevertheles...

9. februára 2008, 21:45:42
beach 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
Czuch: well I tried and still couldn't clicked on the link activated the account and it tells me I cannot post, guess you aren't allowed to discuss this problem anywhere now

9. februára 2008, 21:45:10
gogul 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!

9. februára 2008, 21:36:44
Bernice 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
beach: yes me as well.....ages ago now before the crap of this place being so darned slow........but then it is probably because we are all now "rattlebrained" another beauty, with words of wisdom from the mouth hisself.

9. februára 2008, 21:29:59
Czuch 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
beach: Okay, I think fencer is correct, I dont remember anything being said when I created an account, but I just checked my email and there was a link to make the account active, that must be the problem, except, since I already made my post here, I havent tried it again!

9. februára 2008, 21:21:22
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
beach: Hell, these third party products make me really annoyed sometimes. The sooner I create my own blog system the better (because it would be easy to integrate it with BrainKing user names and passwords).

9. februára 2008, 21:19:06
beach 
Subjekt: Re: Anyway, i copied my message from there and here it is, sorry, really!
Czuch: when you figure out how to respond to the blog can you let me know, I tried the same thing have an account etc, and still couldn't respond and I would like to,

9. februára 2008, 21:18:05
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re:
Czuch: I have noticed that you have created an account at the blog site. If you have received a confirmation e-mail and clicked the activate link (I think that's how it works), you should be able to post your comment if you click at the particular article page (click here and scroll down to the comment form).

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