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27. novembra 2003, 21:45:27
GM5 
Subjekt: danocheek??
oh well - a chessplayer probably needs good sitting-meat. :b
guess an old tree with uncomfortably noisy bark when wildboars appear. ;)

27. novembra 2003, 21:43:55
noholdsbarred 
Subjekt: Re: to complete games, as stipulation
what sanction if they dont... erasure... they just come back as another pawn

27. novembra 2003, 21:34:28
GM5 
Subjekt: to complete games, as stipulation
might be even the better cure. ;-)
humbug-drivers are generally lazy.

27. novembra 2003, 21:31:50
bwildman 
Subjekt: Re: With all due respect, I don't think it's worth a thought.
Yes...I believe you are talking about my good friend,Danoschek.Unfortunate circumstances led to his "temporary"absence.

27. novembra 2003, 21:29:48
noholdsbarred 
Subjekt: Re: With all due respect, I don't think it's worth a thought.
Ok a probation period... and how about having to have played some games before being allowed into tourneys.
I am not overly concerned about method here.. just a realistic cure...

27. novembra 2003, 20:47:39
Rose 
Since fencer is charged something like 2 bucks for every transaction, sending him two bucks would defeat the purpose but if someone (namely me) with a merchant account was willing to accept the $2 (money order, cheque etc)sent to me I could then send it to fencer in one larger lump sum once it accumulated. Its something worth thinking about.

27. novembra 2003, 20:18:36
noholdsbarred 
Subjekt: Re: Sounds to me...
I do not think a $2 suggested one off payment is beyond anybodies means. It is to deter people from making multiple ID's and using them to disrupt the site.
Perhaps if you would be so kind as to leave personalites out of it you could insteadv offer a constructive solution to the problem of the abuses highlighted here recently.
My previously posted views, if actually read were...
1) The principle of free play provides a pool of competition which I should not like to lose.
2) Those people who do pay should be given precedence of access when resource is in short supply.
Neither of those previous points has anything to do with this suggestion. They were to address a different problem.

27. novembra 2003, 19:50:06
The Listener 
Subjekt: Sounds to me...
Noholdsbarred....

is just trying....

to get everyone....

to pay up.....

because of personal views against those....

who do not or cannot pay to play.....

And that just sucks.....

But luckily I think Fencer is smarter than that and is quite able to devise a plan fitting all peoples of all corners. :·)

~ MS

27. novembra 2003, 19:35:46
bwildman 
Subjekt: Re: Paying Members
thats easy...contact a customer service rep and they'll help you get your membership:)

27. novembra 2003, 19:32:01
berengeria2 
Subjekt: Paying Members
I would be a paying member on principle, but the site won't accept money orders, which is what I use. Perhaps this can be changed.

27. novembra 2003, 18:22:54
Vikings 
I believe a 2 dollar fee cost Fencer money to process

27. novembra 2003, 17:58:27
Fiona 
its 5pm on Thursday in the UK now

27. novembra 2003, 17:51:51
grant 
its not turkey and ham day thats for sure! lol

27. novembra 2003, 17:50:30
coley 
hey what time and day is it over in the uk? just curious.

27. novembra 2003, 17:00:10
noholdsbarred 
Subjekt: there is a way
Simple really....
You cannot stop multiple ID's
You can provide incentive for them to behave within a code of conduct...
An enrollment fee...
Before the play for free party form a lynch mob read on...
It only needs to be a couple of Dollars...
It only needs to be paid once....
It can be later offset against other memberships should knight or rook be taken....
Since they then have something to lose "flaming" "tournament killing" become controllable and BK building expensive...
And if you can afford the ISP service/computer etc 2 bucks will not kill...

27. novembra 2003, 16:55:11
sLaMdAnCe13 
no.

27. novembra 2003, 16:51:19
runningwolf 
Subjekt: Re:
How is it possible to Prevent Multi IDS Escpecially if someone is banned but just creates new ids and plays on I dont think there is a way to prevent Multi Ids or Is there?????????

27. novembra 2003, 11:31:56
noholdsbarred 
Now why didnt I think of that... instead of using the BKR to play amongst my peers...
If the ratings algorythm works as I think it does then he must have built a huge pryamid for it to work... perhaps if instead he had spent the same effort studying the game of his choice to improve his skill he could have the satisfaction of earning his rating.

27. novembra 2003, 10:54:42
Jason 
if people have to play themselves to get a high rating then they are decieving themselves . they are not as good as they would like to think they are ... ps i have noticed this with a few players ...hopefully fencer can get a way to stop it or at least catch then doing this and ban then or something in the final brainking version

27. novembra 2003, 10:42:18
berengeria2 
By creating multiple IDs it is possible play them against one another, creating an artificially high rating for one of them. A guy on another site manufactured a 3500 chess rating this way.

27. novembra 2003, 10:36:56
noholdsbarred 
I have no statistics but the recent discourse on identity verification suggests that spurious memberships are created for other disruptive purposes.

27. novembra 2003, 10:27:07
ughaibu 
Subjekt: Noholdsbarred
This is a very rare case (isn't it?), any repressive steps to prevent such behaviour is likely to be a case of the treatment being worse than the disease.

27. novembra 2003, 09:21:37
noholdsbarred 
Subjekt: pawn policy
Fencer
May I draw your attention to a player DEADEND..
Joined 26th signed up for tournament first 5... resigned all games today 27th...
Appears no doubt in statistics for site and (no doubt) will never be removed...
May I ask what steps you propose to prevent the quiet enjoyment of the site by others being spoilt by this conduct.

26. novembra 2003, 14:21:24
Fencer 
Just a second :-)

26. novembra 2003, 13:55:33
Stevie 
PS Pleeeeaassseeee ;o)

26. novembra 2003, 13:55:16
Stevie 
Fencer, When will the lock be coming off the fellowships board? Its been a week and we proved yesterday on Gen chat that we can keep out of the flames etc :o)

26. novembra 2003, 13:45:52
Rogue Lion 
Subjekt: Re: Email and addresses
All of this multiple account business may be much to do about nothing. Abusers, suffering from split personality or not, will be delt with in standard fashion. Fencer has already addressed this issue. Back to the games!

26. novembra 2003, 10:36:31
WhisperzQ 
Subjekt: Email and addresses
I have as many email addresses as I can dream up want (as I have a domain and an email server) so this wouldn't stop me if I were that way inclined and as I do not have a static IP then the IP address wouldn't work either except during the same session.

26. novembra 2003, 09:17:16
Jason 
i still cant see how that would work . using the ip address would be more suitable , but i like a few others have two paying members here

26. novembra 2003, 07:34:35
Fran Gipani 
Subjekt: Fencer
Would a suggestion be in order?
I have just registered as a new user, but I am a paid member as well :(
To stop the multiple log ins of trouble-makers would it not be possible to allow the use of your email address only ONCE? or even twice.
Now I know this will bring a howl from "family" users who all have the same email address, but in that case an email to a trusted employer or caretaker would enable multiple family usages.
It seems a good way to stop all the rubbish from trying to upset the rest of BrainKing...A private message on its way asking you to please close this account....LOL if that is possible without deleting this message

26. novembra 2003, 05:31:05
Bernice 
Subjekt: Re: why don't we get an answer?
Fencer....I would assume one of our newest members would be referring to Rugby UNION (as the world cup has just finished and gone to England..congrats) but then it could also be Rugby LEAGUE...Australia has just beaten England 3 - NIL in a 3 test series.

25. novembra 2003, 16:58:58
ughaibu 
Subjekt: Niki
Thanks.

25. novembra 2003, 13:29:13
pine cracker 
Subjekt: oh well this education gap
is more answer than I can stand now. my team leaves. :-)

25. novembra 2003, 13:24:39
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: why don't we get an answer?
What rugby variation?

25. novembra 2003, 13:23:42
split ant 
Subjekt: why don't we get an answer?
just because our funny rugby variation isn't acknowledged in europe?

25. novembra 2003, 10:30:04
Niki 
Subjekt: Re: ughaibu
In short.. how about the notation on the right hand side ? I think that tells you :0)

25. novembra 2003, 10:13:05
ughaibu 
When playing backgammon does the opponent see the board as if they were sitting on the other side or are the dice reversed so that both sides see the left dice on their left and the right on their right? In short how do we know which piece they moved first?

24. novembra 2003, 18:26:25
Fencer 
Subjekt: Re: Tournament Signup
Bill Bevins: Should be done.

24. novembra 2003, 18:15:11
Bill Bevins 
Subjekt: Tournament Signup
Fencer, I can't join a new tournament, even though I've already lost the one I'm in. I'm hoping to win a membership at this site, so can you please fix me up so that I can join a new tournament? Thanks in advance.

24. novembra 2003, 15:15:45
harley 
wild receiver. I put offense of line on hide, as I will with you if you flame this board.

24. novembra 2003, 13:55:56
bwildman 
Subjekt: The bwildman KM Gothic Chess#1 Chistmas Bash
In honor of the KM fellowship's "adopt a pawn" program,the winner recieves a 1 year rook membership to BrainKing.com.If the winner is already a paid member,they may sponser a pawn,to become a member.Have fun,and pawns please remember to leave enough openings for the tournament. :)

24. novembra 2003, 11:13:18
wild receiver 
Subjekt: Hallucinations Anyone?
I don't see any offense of line. But I see rubbish.

24. novembra 2003, 09:13:57
harley 
Also, any more about Gothic Inventor will be deleted now. The question has been asked and the answer is clear. Any more discussion should be done on a more appropriate board (and preferably in private! LOL)

24. novembra 2003, 09:08:35
Fencer 
offense of line: Whoever you are, please don't create accounts only for posting. Each person can have just one account.

24. novembra 2003, 09:08:28
Bernice 
Subjekt: holy mother
"FENCER" is there no stopping this sort of rubbish????:???
what is offense of line?
could it be offensive line?

24. novembra 2003, 08:55:28
harley 
Ok thats enough. Most of this is going anyway.

24. novembra 2003, 08:51:23
Bernice 
Now that IS a backhanded apology....if Ive ever heard one :) ....but all that is expected :)
Thank you

24. novembra 2003, 08:49:35
Usurper 
Excellent work, Bernice. I stand corrected and you are correct. Forgive me for combining in my mind what is written therein with Fencer's statement below and coming to a rational, just conclusion. The fault is all mine.

24. novembra 2003, 08:45:15
Bernice 
Subjekt: URSURPER ..as usual you dont read what is written
I said ...."I cannot see where there are any confirmations as to who the directors are etc..."
well that is what i can see....praps your viewing has been somewhat curtailed hehehehe.
Look at this as copy/pasted from below....please indicate to me where Fencer and Liquids names are or for that matter the "Liar" what is his name???

Your e-mail address is required for registration, and is used to send an activation code to and notify you when it is your turn to move or a similar game event occurs. Your e-mail address will not visible to anyone else on BrainKing.com except you. If you choose to give your e-mail address to your opponent, you may do so by posting a private message with your move. Otherwise, no one visiting BrainKing.com will have access to your e-mail address, not even your opponents.

BrainKing.com guarantees that all e-mails sent from us to players are for the player's benefit (usually notifying you when it is your turn in your started games). However, you can turn this option off on your Settings page to be protected against receiving any such e-mails from BrainKing.com.

Your e-mail address is never given out to third parties without your EXPLICIT permission.

Players can set up optional (not required) information about themselves in their My Profile page to inform other players about real name, country, date of birth etc. BrainKing.com will never share these information with third parties without your EXPLICIT permission.

BrainKing.com uses cookies to track your user ID as you move from page to page. This is to prevent you from having to log on repeatedly as you navigate the site. Since you already have to log on, we know who you are, so the use of cookies does not affect your privacy in any way.

All messages exchanged between you and your opponents in game pages are visible only by the particular game players. Other players can only see the game itself (board, notation, time left, ...) but all other private information (messages) are invisible to them. If you want to increase your privacy when playing a game, you can check "Private game" checkbox in game definition page. In such case, other players are unable to see game board, game notification and other game information.

If you use BrainKing.com from a public/shared computer (like at internet cafe, etc.), do not forget to click on "Logout" link and then close all browser windows when you want to finish your BrainKing.com session. This process should avoid other people to use the same computer and continue to play on BrainKing.com with your ID.

as i said....NO Liar, no Fencer, no Liquid....this is off the Privacy Policy as per below

24. novembra 2003, 08:38:40
Usurper 
The directors are Fencer and Liquid, Bernice. Fencer's post below is very clear.

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