(V): Nobody is saying like China, but whats wrong with a course and a test? We do it to have a gun or hunt or drive a car or even to get married?

Seems like your solution for most is through some sort of government entity, but you have no faith when it comes to this one subject all of a sudden?

rod03801: Sorry, but with the way certain services designed to stop bad bad parents have .. um.. mucked up, such a system just could not work. There is no way you can be sure of what the future may bring to the chosen ones, how an incident may cause one to go bananas.

And how are you going to persuade millions of people to under go temporary 'sterilisation', plus the factor that you are limiting the gene pool is dangerous. Plus the revolts would cause civil war in America, even within republican groups due to certain bits of the Bible celebrating what marriage is about.

....... More money to child protection services and better training would be better. Better education at school over birth control and STI's, free condoms to teenagers, plus other plans to show the FACTS about unprotected sex in adverts would be better.

The Chinese have a system based on fines for families that have over 2 (I think) children. But that is over population control, to stop the Chinese people out growing their country.

Czuch: It's not just Bush, it was the government he had as well. Theydidn't think before they acted. As they say "A good warrior wins first then goes to battle, while a bad one goes to battle and hopes to win."

OPEC was a factor out of Carter's control, just like everyone else found. They were a uncontrollable factor that through only talk could the situation be resolved.... Just like with every other country affected by the oil crises. It was a global event!!

I heard on economist today saying that even if Bam made interest rates to minus 2 %, still 40% of the people couldnt pay off their own mortgages!

What the heck are we doing anyway???

Czuch: Personally, I would support it.

rod03801: Whats wrong with a license to have a baby? At least a course, and a test, something to make them think a bit first, it might not be perfect, but I bet it would help prevent some from having one that they cant take care or adequately?

Hmmm.... not very Libertarian of me either!

Guess I'm not in that box either. Darn it. That's the box I didn't mind too much!

(V):
You say: Are you saying that only the rich should have babies? Are you proposing a somewhat big brother approach to having families where only approved parents can have children and any poor people who have babies are to be prosecuted and jailed?

People have to have a license to Fish or Hunt in the USA. (Not sure if it is that way over there) Yet anyone can have a baby! I DO think that people should have to prove they can bring up a child properly before having one! Of course, that is absolutely impossible. And who would be the person who makes this decision? And my solution to not allowing babies until after this proof, would be controversial as well. lol. Some sort of mandatory birth control until you DO get a license to have a child. Before you blast me for that, I know that would be a very bad solution. It has it's merits though.

Charles Martel: All the famous people are democrats... thats good enough for me... Im off to the voter registration to change right now

I'm always waiting for Angelina Jolie, and Lindsay Lohan to tell me how to vote, dress, and think

Tuesday: too late

Tuesday: you're just jealous cuz the famous people don't agree that everyone is born equal, and believes in giving a hand UP. lmao


What does being famous have to do with being intelligent???? You value someones opinions just because the enjoy some fame????

Charles Martel: hahahaha... what about that Tuesday???? All the dems are just so smart and sensitive and they do nothing wrong... hahahah Kennedy is but one on a long list of dumb ass democrats

Mr Kennedy, how did you manage to navigate your PT boat in front of a Japanese destroyer causing the destruction of your ship and death of your crew, even though your boat is twice as fast??? Were you below deck with some native girls???

(V): How can everything that happened during Bush be his fault, when you so easily blame others for what happened during Carter?

Mr Kennedy, explain your family's involvement in illicit , felonious,business.

Czuch: Gas wasn't Carters fault. It was OPEC that created that problem, we got hit the same time, so did everyone else. 4 day working weeks we had here, sometimes 3 to save energy.

Tuesday: it's entertainment, not something to educate...

Same for Gores an inconvenient truth???? That won all kinds of movie awards... glad you think its all just entertainment, and not education.... but why did they make all the school kids watch for then???

Tuesday: don't look to Hollywood for political objectivity,, , check Babs Streisand and others for their views

Czuch: Exactly... sit back and see if he's got it right. If he doesn't... then he won't get re-elected. If he really mucks up. He'll be impeached or resign.

Tuesday: Carter was by far the worst president we ever had... remember the lines for gas, hostage crisis etc??? whos fault was it then?

Tuesday: No , the stagflation of the times and the military responses bungling was carters fault.

(V): It's not intended to last forever, just long enough to help your country recover.


Thats fine.... just that many think we will recover in a couple or few years anyway, without the government huge spending, some disagree, Bam was elected, so we do it his way, doesnt mean we have to think it is the right decision, all we can do is sit back and see what happens now.

(V):true, JFK wouldnt get elected today with the media

Czuch: I'm not bashing your Pres as he's not shown yet to be an idiot like Bush. If he mucks up through stupid mistakes like Bush I'll make comments.

Charles Martel: Nixon, JFK, etc, etc. I think sometimes people expect your Pres will be like an angel.

Tuesday: If hollywood is where you look for education and or advice on national or world events, then good luck, american idol will be telling you how to vote

Charles Martel: We all knew this would happen.... when you bash bush its because he is an idiot who deserves it... when you bash Bam..... at least everything being said against Bam is true, nobody has lied or misrepresented or taken out of context anything.... its simple disagreement in views and ideas...

Czuch: It's not intended to last forever, just long enough to help your country recover.

Economists will always argue, It's good for job numbers

Tuesday: embarrassing like who?? dimwit Carter, or clinton who I voted for.. who lied to get out of a sex harassment suit, now that was embarrassing!!

Czuch: are you purposely trying to humiliate him, denigrate him, take sound bites out of context, make insulting movies of him like they did for the last 8 years??? gee why not??

Tuesday: does this mean you are going to be supportive of Obama?

What do you consider support??? I am not out with a protest sign against him, I am not calling for his impeachment.... is that support?

(V): Boom periods based on credit never last. It's an economic fact. The Bubble will burst and not nicely.

...and it is my opinion, and others as well, like some you see on fox news, that this new spending spree is only temporary as well, and it too will never last!


Its like giving a kid an allowance... they have money to spend, go to the mall or the movies or a bite to eat, but that $20 bucks only goes so far, and they come back next week looking for another $20.... the reality is that you arent creating any wealth when you give your kid an allowance, you give them something temporary, nothing different when the government pumps a bunch of money at us, its a temporary fix.... and there is absolutely no evidence that we wont get to the same place in a few years without any type of stimulus?

Economists are still today debating weather or not the new deal actually made us take longer to come out of the great depression, than doing nothing at all would have!

by the way what are we getting from the stimulus?? $800.00 or so?? is any one calling it taxcuts for the rich this time like the last few times we got it??? and why not??

and by the way, you got to love his senatorial replacement , Burress, , could that state be any more corrupt???

Tuesday: yes, because my family's future depends on it, but i will blast him for every stutter , every time he misspeaks,every bad bill, and wasteful spending, and any mistake... its only fair

Tuesday: Come and live in the big city for a while, like Philadelphia,, you'll see corruption at its best, handouts
for everyone

Czuch: Yes, but if like what has happened now, this slump occurred from people basically relying on a economic 'boom' to go on for ever based on crazy credit and greedy and as descibed "crazy mistakes that you'd only expect from someone who doesn't know what they are doing"... Boom periods based on credit never last. It's an economic fact. The Bubble will burst and not nicely.

This is not doom and Gloom, this is reality. Fact.

But the question is, knowing that such systems have been used in the past and gone "POP", why on earth are were they still allowed to be used?

Thatcher used the "BOOM and BUST" economic system and it went BANG, so now aka Titanic style (lifeboats) rules are being put in place. People are being called to account for their actions.

It's not your people's fault, they are not to blame.. They are taught the American way and fell in love with a dream that ended in a nightmare by marketing pressure, and certain amount of 'tradition' and peer pressure.

The democrats can't save you. you have to save you by believing in your country again, and rediscovering some wisdom over what is allowed and some learning over 'bad mistakes' by bosses of big corporations. Not poor people, but rich men and women.

And FIX that lobbying system of yours!!

Czuch: I agree Czuch, i didn't care that much for Bush, but He was our president, what happened over the last 8 was disgusting.move on.org and that slob michael moore ran a disgusting smear campaign from day one.I'll say again, I rather would have had Clinton,but I'm glad we had Bush rather than that blowhard Gore and that stooge kerry