The Usurper: Sure stick with it... its not a bad thing for you to be a liberal..... but what does it have to do with a federal government?

I think you confuse the words government with society, a society can and should be all those things, but the society is not the same as the government.

The Usurper: Why do you have the word 'government' like that? Looks to me like it was inserted or changed and was not the original word used in the quote?

The Usurper: I know!!! It is so sad!!!!

I hate that the Palestine terrorists hide themselves among women and children, shows them for the cowards they really are! We should wipe them from the face of the planet, once and for all!!!

(V): Is that possible in American government?

Like I said, its a trade off, and isnt perfect, neither is socilaism, I say let the socially minded move to a socialist country, and let the capitalist minded move here.... guess which country would fill up first?

Bernice: .... wasn't your gov doing a deal some 50 years ago, come over to Australia for ten pounds British people!! Emigrate!!!

Czuch: Then regulate properly your health insurance companies. Make them show data on themselves, cap their profits at the expense of USA Joe, and make the insurance system more honest and less prone to being defrauded by Heath companies and doctors in the sway of drug companies.

Czuch: Better tell your corporations to stop making so much fast food then, better tell your gov to face the social problems at hand all have been ignoring for years.

But then they would have to take REAL advice, from REAL people who won't be bullied by the lobbyists or bought off by them.

Is that possible in American government?

Artful Dodger: And yet, you want a more big brother state to now cover child birth and who can raise children...... sounds rather Hitlerish to me.

... reasoning and understanding.. God like qualities I thought.

“The fascist state has always been an attempt to control private industry by means of inflation, taxation, and regulation. Fascism has always been a system of keeping the big boys alive and happy at the expense of the taxpayers.”

http://mises.org/story/3333

And you guys are worried about socialism....

“Of the 1,330 Palestinians killed by the Israeli military during the 22-day invasion of Gaza, 437 were children. Let me repeat that: 437 children — each as beautiful and precious as our own.”

http://desertpeace.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/once-you-see-what-truly-happened-in-gaza-it-will-change-you-forever/
[WARNING: This link is graphic!]

RNC Protesters Face Felony Terrorism Charges

“Luce Guillen-Givins…is one of the first people ever to be charged under the 2002 Minnesota version of the federal PATRIOT Act. Guillen-Givins and 7 other members of the group RNC Welcoming Committee — also known as the "RNC 8" — were formally charged with conspiracy to riot in furtherance of terrorism.”

http://www.infowars.com/criminalizing-dissent-rnc-protesters-face-felony-terrorism-charges/

``The [government] must put the most modern medical means in the service of this knowledge.... Those who are physically and mentally unhealthy and unworthy must not perpetuate their suffering in the body of their children.... The prevention of the faculty and opportunity to procreate on the part of the physically degenerate and mentally sick, over a period of only 600 years, would ... free humanity from an immeasurable misfortune.''

Bernice: World downturn.

20,000,000 chinese laid off....does this indicate that we have a world downturn, or is it just par for the course?

Definition 1: progressive

Synonyms: advanced, avant-garde, broad, broad-minded, catholic, enlightened, flexible, free, general, high-minded, humanistic, humanitarian, indulgent, intelligent, interested, latitudinarian, left, lenient, libertarian, loose, magnanimous, permissive, radical, rational, reasonable, receiving, receptive, reformist, tolerant, unbiased, unbigoted, unconventional, understanding, unorthodox, unprejudiced

Antonyms: conservative, narrow, narrow-minded

Definition 2: giving, generous

Synonyms: altruistic, beneficent, benevolent, bighearted, bounteous, bountiful, casual, charitable, eleemosynary, exuberant, free, free-and-easy, handsome, kind, lavish, loose, munificent, openhanded, openhearted, philanthropic, princely, prodigal, profuse, soft-touch, unselfish

Antonyms: economical, greedy, mean, thrifty, ungenerous

Definition 3: Favoring civil liberties and social progress.

Synonyms: liberalistic, progressive

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That's a nice word. Think I'll stick with it. :o)

Artful Dodger: I'm forming a new PAC to counter your influence: Political Order Of Taxaholics, or POOT.

'Taxing' farts and burps


On that "note" I'm joining the new international political action committee, "Freedom Against Ridiculous Taxes" or FART. 

It's finally happened.  The politicians have gone completely mad and stuck their "noses" up where we thought there were all along. 

Bernice:lol

Artful Dodger: i knew that, just checkin to see of you knew LOLOL

Artful Dodger: oh.....

Bernice:a bunch of Killroys holding a sign ;)

Artful Dodger: still nuffin recognizable

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Artful Dodger: eh???? what is that?

yep that is him........he is a great actor.......Barry Humphries, Dame Edna Everidge, Sir Les Patterson, he is all 3

Bernice: Very true and.....ok I'll behave. No more naughtiness! Back to politics! Rolling up my sleeves....

Bernice:
lol

ScarletRose: You have to stop that!

Thanks for helping us to lighten up a bit. :o)

ScarletRose:Well, you can't pay for all these programs unless we tax the crap out of hard working Americans.  We'll never pay off the current debt without huge tax increases.

Artful Dodger: you would be talking about "Sir Les Patterson" he is actually australian....and one of Dame Edna Everidge alter ego's.....

Artful Dodger: "ole chap" and protruding teeth...I've got those down already. lol

Ouch!! let's hope not that high

ScarletRose: Speaking of taxes.  Ours will all be going up.  If we go the way of Sweden, it will be over 50%. 

I will be turning in for the evening and will let you all get back to bashing each other left and right.. with political views.. hehe.. I will go sit and stare at the stimulus package I got today and ponder how I will deal with it.. *giggle*

The Usurper: you might get a shock LOL.....they are probably fair skinned because they are too lazy to get off their backsides and go get a job LOL.....JK...before I get bounced on.....but yes the POMS do look funny when they come to australia and go to our beaches.....you can pickem a mile off.....snow white skins and not an ounce of tan and 9 times out of 10 no muscle, but having said that they wont get skin cancers and be a BLOT on the health system. heheheheh

The Usurper:You'll have to learn to say "ol chap" and get your teeth to protrude. 

Artful Dodger: I am doing some styling this weekend.. will also be filing our taxes.. wonder how much we will get back..

ScarletRose:Yeah, I have to install two fire detectors, do some practice on bass for Sunday, and veg.  ;)

Bernice: I am applying for British citizenship as we speak. Ahhh, those fair-skinned English ladies....

Ummm, I mean I will smoke & discuss politics with them. :o)

The Usurper: and you realize of course that if you belonged to (V) line of gentry you you would look far better in a smoking jacket .....

Bernice: Oh no, I didn't forget them. lol :o)

ScarletRose: Yes it did! You know I was being silly.... :o)

ScarletRose: hahaha...I had visions LOL.....I also have big screen but have it on a unit.....

The Usurper: you forgot the "bad, bad" women ...LOL

Bernice: That is a good point. But I am sinful creature. I must take pleasure in small things....smoke, coffee, and posting on politics boards.

Bernice: hahaha.. actually he is hanging it up on the wall.. just sounded funnier put the other way! :)

The Usurper: well when they instigate and put it into practice the new laws where you can't get health insurance I hope you don;t suffer for too long with emphasema(sp)

OK OK OK...I know it won't happen but you will be a burden on the health system....:(

Bernice: A primitive mating ritual?

Bernice: I have to smoke. It's the only way I can think up liberal ideas. lol :o)

ScarletRose: "mounting the television"....what is that?