I believe your answer is not correct either.

You say:
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{there are just 12 "different" cards now to start...}

4 x (12 x 12) x (11 x 11) x (10 x 10) =

6,969,600.
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However, after the first "x12", it is no longer 12:1 that another card of the same number will be drawn - there are only three of it remaining, while there are four of the rest. Same for the 2nd "x11" and "x10".

So then what is the answer, if my answer is wrong?

Except that the answer is wrong.

There are 13 of the same cards, disregarding suits.


The chances of 4 of the same being drawn by two people would be...

4 x (13x12x11x10/4x3x2) then divided by 2.

This is one in 5720.

Now, given that 4 cards have been removed, with 6 more to be dealt, with 3 matching pairs, the odds are:

{there are just 12 "different" cards now to start...}

4 x (12 x 12) x (11 x 11) x (10 x 10) =

6,969,600.

Multiply this by 5720 and you get:


39,866,112,000 to 1.

and it only took Kevin 44 minutes to do as well, :)

rofl - It's amazing what you can do with a calculator :-)

*faint* Amazing odds, however you worked that out!

The chances of the two players getting the same pair and the same three (different) other cards is:

(52/52 * 3/51 * 48/50 * 44/49 * 40/48) * (2/47 * 1/46 * 3/45 * 3/44 * 3/43) = 1.24 * 10 ^ -8 = 0.0000000124 = 0.000000124 % = 124 / 10,000,000,000 = 1 / 80,667,372.92

ok
I had not bothered to look as the date still says 30th June lol :-)
No wonder i keep jumping about on the ranking at the moment, mainly against unrated players.

That doesn't surprise me! And it probably wouldn't surprise you that I wouldn't have understood a number of it! :oD

At least you have a rank - in Amazons, I have a rating, but no rank! :-(

(Bug where rank is not updated if rating does not change, and my rating changed from "unrated" to XXXX - but moved "0" and hence not really "updated", hence not given a rank) :-)

MM: See http://brainking.info/bugs.html.

Actually harls, I did start to! But, I realized I was making an error since the fact we both had a pair changes the math considerably.

Fencer, just checked my rating in my profile and it says i am 3rd on BB+ , but when you click on it and goto the ratings it says 2nd.

Oh don't, Niki! He'll give us a huge mathematical formula as to exactly what the chances are! (Only kidding, GI!)

Wow ! what are the chances ??
don't worry, that was a rhetorical question ;-D

Actually, it was part of this picture where my daughter and I both had the same exact hand in poker. I was getting ready to play in a Texas Hold'Em tournament in Australia, so I was using the Adelaide Casino deck (blue diamonds and green clubs.)

Brittany likes to play 5-card draw so I was taking a break playing a few hands with her.

We both ended up with a pair of tens, and an Ace-Queen-2. It was kind of funny, because at the show down she said "Pair of tens". So I asked her what her next high card was. She said "I have an Ace, so I win." I laughed and said I had an Ace too. I told her I had a Queen, then she laughed and said "darn, you probably will win, I only have a 2."

It was such an unlikely occurence, one of the other players took a picture of it for us.

Yours was taken in your moody period then? ;oÞ

...someone could create the "Back In The Day" Fellowship where members could upload everything from their baby pictures to when they were teenages, to young adults, then old cronies :)

thank you, everything worked out perfectly:)

town tell wednesday. Sry if i did not get to our game..
:o{P

but I really do look like this :)

It should be done.

ughaibu: It will be a server-side cache problem [I've written the cache myself and it contains some minor bugs]. The application server reload should fix it, I'll ask Liquid to do it.

Yes it seems most people are using their own picutres. Mine hame is certainly an original. There are some that crack me up though like AD's. Too funny AD. I think I saw Pres Clintons out there somewhere too or I might be mistaken.

That's to set up a fellowship tournament for that game type.

Backoff has made me big boss of his tablut fellowship but I'm not getting "define new tournament" in the team box, any advice?

I think thats more than enough about Kevin. He's playing within the rules, and is a lovely person too. Theres no need to single him out, he's not the only person to take his time at games, I have been myself lately because I've been busy.

Yes its true Bernice. and I was never told if the other party done thier bit in the end.

Kevin, at your age you should be out and about anyways. Not playing silly games with other peoples time out limits to annoy them.

I can't remember what it was like to decline in my later years. :o)

9 years ago I was my age as well!

hahahah 20 years ago....I was about your age bumble .....40...hehehhe
**edit** hehehe and here come the remarks....thanks Bumble, we both know what it is like to decline in our later years dont we :)

No,she was young and pretty at this time..:)

A photo of you taken 20 years ago, Bernice? You would have been a toddler then, surely? :o)

thanks Chatty, but it makes for extra "clicks"

I know...dont be so lazy.. but i can see on the bottom half of my main page all my fellowships, having to go there and then click on number of posts isnt an incentive to do that exactly ( but then that depends on the fellowship i guess) there are some fiery buggars LOLOL

Thank you fencer, I will tell them about that, I thought things had changed now :)

the fellowships dont go into the favourites nor bernice.. any new messages show up by the side of any fellowship, and just click on that red number to read the message.

Im trying to make my new fellowships into my "favourites" :(
I cant...has something changed or do i have to keep clicking on my "Fellowships" list??

I dont want to make a pest of myself with changing pics...my "eye" was disturbing to some....no worries... my dog is bringing some hilarious remarks hehehehehe.....my real pic.??
If yours can be 3 years old dear Fencer, can mine be 20 years old...Im on the decline side you see and dont need smart remarks from some of your members..no names but you all know where im coming from LOLOL

chattytea: They do it through editing their details but this change must be approved by me or Liquid.
Bernice: Show us your real photo first :-)

HAHAHAHA....Damned foreign languages hehehehe
Bwild....you a buggar of a man:)
Fencer....do you have a criminal record? LOLOL prolly not but i bet there are a few here that do ROFLMBO
AD...I would love to see more of you BUT....and that is a big butt hehehe your butt I mean ROFLMBO

again sorry Harley :)....blame da Boss

I am probably going over old things here but
I know someone who needs to change their name (for a genuine reason) Do they hve to do it through you now fencer?? Or can they do it just through editing their details?

bwildman: Damned foreign languages! You know what I mean :-)
ellie: You can do it through "support us" page, just type 56 do the PayPal box. I know what it is for.

wow Fencer!! you were big at 3!! LOL:)

that's okay, but it only says one payment, do i have to do it two times?

Bernice: My pic is real. 3 years old, though :-)
Ellie: I don't know what exchange rates PayPal uses but anyway, all membership prices are in EUR. I was not happy to make this change from USD to EUR but I had to because of a tax policy change in our country [the tax for BrainKing fees was changed from 5% to 22%].

some pics are not as easy for eyes like mine to see.

you mean you'd like to see more of me?? :) crazy

that would be a nice feature!!

I wish there was a way to click on the pictures to enlarge them.

you sure did Bernice and it rhymes with what I am, huh!!!

hahaha check out gen chat...Ive already answered that ROFLMBO :)