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9. August 2009, 18:07:06
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Subject: self claimed good player or master on this site
i was a world champion.....no .who would believe that?? now..i am just an old man with no desire to beat people on line. A master won't say he is MASTER on line. a real master will hide his ID if he play online some times. IF JUST IF... ACTUALY NO MASTER WILL PLAY HERE FOR SURE.

5. April 2009, 16:30:23
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Subject: Re: fact
fact (5) i have said that no world champion or GM will come to this site, even a good player won't play here. I decide to quit this site, thanks to the Moderator that he did not ban me for what i have said.
the reason: I am a good chinese chess player, i found no competition here, and i hate to play this kind of correspondence game.

5. April 2009, 16:01:35
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Subject: fact
fact (1) a 1900 chessplayer could not know computer moves, and it can not know if it's opponent using computer program. The chance of knowing it a 1900 is not better than a 1400.
the reason is you don't know what your opponent is doing. no matter you are 1900 or 1400.

fact(2) No world champion or GM will come to this site, this site is brainking.com, a correspondence online playing site.
the reason is there are no competition and prize(money), and playing correspondence chess is very time consumeing, for a world champion or Gm, time is money.

fact (3) to day, computer won all the matches vs human
the reason, time is change, now is the computer era, the machine is so fast......himan is no match to the machine.

fact (4) GM is a short form for a Grand Master in chess, not a Grand Mother or General Motor or General Manager.
the reason is, GM could be anything if you are not talking about chess.

4. April 2009, 21:41:47
cheating up up 
Subject: Re:
Clandestine 1: yes, Kasparov has claimed that the computer was "aided" by human intervention after he lost the match.

4. April 2009, 21:35:24
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: Re: using computer
ColonelCrockett: the chance to know if you are playing against a computer, nothing to do with your rating. this is my answer to your incorrect statement (1)
just tell me how much better chance for a 2000, 2100, 2200, 2300, 2400, ........than a 1900 like you.

4. April 2009, 21:21:15
cheating up up 
Subject: computer and Kasparov
Long time ago, Kasparov played 3 matches vs the computer (big Blue or deep Blue by the IBM).. Kasparov was the world champion then, and he won the first match and lost the 2nd and the 3rd match.. The result is 2 to 1 , the machine won it. at that time human still stand a chance to beat the computer...but to day, human lost completely even Kasparov himself admitted human is no match to the fast machine

4. April 2009, 21:00:02
cheating up up 
Subject: my online chess rating
my rating is 1400 , it could be more.... my record is 8 wins, 1 draw and 9 loses......all my loses by run out of time ( 0. 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 13 moves etc.. )....because i quit this site.then....

actully, i don't care about those online rating, i don't care about win or lose. i know where i am standing....ha ha ha. i will quit soon.....so far no one can beat me in chinese chess and chess....i know that.....

4. April 2009, 20:33:43
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: why wouldn't they play here?
rabbitoid: why you sent this message to me? i play only Chinese chess and sometimes Chess...i have never played Fisher Random and Ambassy...i don't understand those games.. i don't follow them...i don't play them...I don't understand why people play them.......

4. April 2009, 20:26:37
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: Re: using computer
ColonelCrockett:a 1900 knows nothing about computer level moves same as a 1400...what is the point? the answer is still the same... that is... KNOW NOTHING ABOUT COMPUTER LEVEL MOVES.... what you trying to say is 1900 is better than 1400..ha ha ha..
i said "NO WORLD CHAMPION OR GM WILL COME TO THIS SITE." This site is brainking.com...do you know what i am talking about.?

to day, computer won all the matches against human, that is the fact. and you are talking about how many draws and loses of the match. what important is the result , that is ..who won?

you said i know nothing about chess, i know more than you know. one thing i want to point out that, this is a chess discussion board, any one can talk equally and freely. supposed you talk with a 2400 chess player who will say you know nothing about chess, what your chance knowing computer level moves? the answer is none...if a 2400 does not know. how could you know? ha ha ha.

as i said before, noline rating is not a true rating, a 1400 could be a 2000+, a 2400 may be a 1600...

4. April 2009, 14:31:10
cheating up up 
Subject: why wouldn't they play here?
no World champion or GM will come to this site, even a good player won't play here.
why? the reason is very simple, there are no competition and prize.(money)...

4. April 2009, 02:19:01
cheating up up 
Subject: PHOTO ALBUMS
when i click on the " Photo albums" then i see lots of public photos, some are animals as dog, cat, pig etc...i could't help laughing, once i hate to see a smiling face with dark glasses, now i just feel funny, i don't hate it any more.......any one @ this site is just a nick...any photo is just a mask.....

4. April 2009, 01:59:09
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: using computer
ColonelCrockett: 1) first time you said that a 1400 rated chessplayer could not konw computer level moves. it sounds that a 1900 rated chessplayer like you could know. Now you said you never could tell the difference between human's moves and computer's .
2) you said masters play on any number of sites, master is not GM or World champion, who is the master playing at this site? don't tell me you are JUST a master

your last statement make me laugh, ha ha any computer can beat your grandmother. computer could beat you too......computer is better than human, computer won all the matches against human, not just by winning one single game. Is this not consistently? In your opinion computer must win all the games against human to be better? Again, don't tell me any GM won any Match today. GM could managed to win one game only....

31. March 2009, 14:01:37
cheating up up 
Subject: world champion playing online
chess world champion won't be here for sure, but i know some times one ex-worldchamp will do it , his name is well known. Kaspraov, some thing like this, i can spell his name exactly.

a world champion no need to use computer when playing on line. he could win every game very easily.
but if a world champion using computer to play in the championship match and his opponent did not know, no one could take his title away, he can keep it forever.

today even in the very high level chess, such as the world championship match, the player is still complainng about computer cheating. have you heard about the "toiletgate"?

online rating is not a true rating, a 1400 could be a 2000+, a 2400 may be a 1600, who knows?

31. March 2009, 13:32:35
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: using computer
ColonelCrockett: your first statemene: 1400 rated chessplayer could not know computer level moves, this is a very stupid question. do you know?

your second statement also a stupid one. no world champion will come to this site, no GM , even a good player won't play here.

your last statement is not true, to day, computer beat human in chess, but not in GO or Chinese chess.

if your every move agree with the first choice of the computer program, you are using computer for sure.


the cheater's opponent did not know he is using computer, that is why i said it is unfair.

29. March 2009, 15:23:14
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: using computer
ughaibu: this site or any other site, they all said the same thing, using computer is prohibited, but they never do anything to stop it... i think it is unfair people using computer to win a game without telling his opponent, this is cheating. ...i suggest this site should add a big "c" to the nick of those player using computer....

13. October 2006, 19:02:23
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: the players are not treated equally
Kiry:
your man won the wwc title.
i am disappointed that a better player did not win.
i should quit in this chess discussion board.

12. October 2006, 22:26:02
cheating up up 
Subject: the players are not treated equally
according to www.veselintopalov.net Topalov was not treated equally
The day before game 12
.....last night the six guards of Veselin Topalov's villa have been found sleeping while being on duty. The guards have been caught by a patrol car. The news was reported by Zhivko Ginchev for the Bulgarian website topsport.bg. At the same time the villa of Kramnik is guarded by three times more professional guards from the Russian army.
other news
Presidential airplane not allowed by Russian authorities:
On Wednesday Bulargian president Georgi Parvanov chartered a flight for Veselin Topalov. The plane was to take off for Bulgaria immediately after the championship finished, reported focus-sport.net. Authorities, however, did not allow the plane to enter Russian territory. No reason was given.
" This is a scandal," Mr. Silvio Danailov said,"nobody explained why the plane was not allowed to land in Russia." At the same time, a plane will come for Vladimir Kramnik and is granted full access to the airport in Elista.

12. October 2006, 21:24:47
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: Fischer vs Karpov.
swordswisher:
it is hard to believe that Fischer will play Karpov, both are over the peak chess player, Fischer didnot play him when he was at his peak, and forfeited the match to Karpov, after more than 30 years later they are willing to sit down face each other on the chess board? what is prize fund for this match? who is the sponsor?

12. October 2006, 16:37:25
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: Kasparov on WCC Elista 2006
Kiry:
Fischer also once said that Kasparov is a liar.
lets talk about the WCC match, now the last (12) game is under way, i look into the position Black is in a better position to win.
it is funny that all 12 games are played with d4, and most of the time, Kramnik was playing defensive, i will say it is the pawn pushing game, Topalov pushed pawns forward and Kramnik just kept his pawns at the last 3 ranks on the board.

12. October 2006, 03:27:50
cheating up up 
Subject: WCC Elista 2006-doping test
according to www.veselintopalov.net
The day before game 11(updated).Oct 9,06:58PM
......At the same time not much informatio has been released about Kramnik's rest day. However, strange news was reported by Zhivko Ginchev. He said that Kramnik refused to make a doping test after game 9. The test has been requested by the chief of the medical commission Iana Belin, as reported by topsport.bg. "Everything here is very strange, but what can we do about it," commented Silvio Danailov for the Bulgarian newspaper Novinar. From the Bulgarian delegation also find it strange that such a test comes after the two consecutive victories of Topalov.

also from the Press conference game 11- Oct10,05:25PM
...............
................
- Veselin, are you disappointed by today's result? This was your last White...
- The result is okay. Of course, I always want to win, but the result is appropriate. I did not have sufficient advantage to talk about winning seriously.

-Now you have to play your last game as Black...
-There is a rest day, and I will be preparing for the game 12. Right now I am happy to have passed the doping test easily! I'll start thinking about the final game tomorrow...
----------------------------------------
Kramnik also passed his doping test? i do not know

11. October 2006, 19:04:22
cheating up up 
Subject: WCC Elista 2006
I have not seen any open letter supporting FIDE Champion Topalov published on ChessBase.Com until today, there are two open letters on Topalov side , one from the " famous Bulgarian grandmasters" the other one is from the President of Bulgaria

first read what the ChessBase.com try to defend that their position was neutral.
from Chessbase.com:
"...We did not leave a single letter written by grandmaster or title chess player in support of Topalov unpublished. Below, incidentally, is the first we found-and it took some trouble locating it"

from "famous Bulgarian grandmasters" open letter called "Hand off from the World Champion!"
.....the high point of this dirty aggression was reached with the open letter of Russian grandmasters Peter Svidler and Evgeny Bareev. What a moral position do they represent, since they are demonstrably part of the Challenger's staff? of what do you, dear sirs, accuse Topalov ? That he fights and does it openly and honestly?
from the President of Bulgaria:
"... It is no secret the representatives of the match organizing nation often have certain advantages, I firmly stand the idea that political games must not influence situation on the board...."

11. October 2006, 17:27:47
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: Kasparov on WCC Elista 2006
Kiry:
Fischer has his own opinion about the 911, think it this way, if all women are beautiful there will be no beautiful woman.

10. October 2006, 15:25:45
cheating up up 
Subject: Kasparov on WCC Elista 2006
Kasparov was interviewed in the Wall Street Journal:
" Mr. Fischer may have been difficult and unstable, but he was a sportman whose complaints were based on principle and a sincere desire to improve the standards of the chess world. Tournament conditions and prize funds improved immeasurably thanks to his efforts."
Kasparov does not understand Fischer who always accuses the Russian chess players cheating.

10. October 2006, 15:05:27
cheating up up 
Subject: one thing Fischer will do
Fischer will request an urine test. he never trust the Russian chess players.

10. October 2006, 15:02:05
cheating up up 
Subject: drug test
i still believe an urine test from both players is the right thing to do.
Kramnik is a suspect to take drug, people are talking about just computer assistant cheating.

10. October 2006, 14:56:11
cheating up up 
Subject: if the wcc match tied after game 12
Kramnik won't continue the tie-break match then FIDE has a decision to make, who is the champion?

9. October 2006, 17:40:31
cheating up up 
Subject: rule should be changed to avoid cheating
the first time i learnt about chess is the famous Fischer-Spassky match in 1972, at that time, the player could seal his move inside an envelop to adjourn the game, and left the work for his second to analyze the position of the unfinished game, the player just continue to play the moves next day that his second provided for him. i also notice that the player could walk away from the playing board anytime he wanted.
as a chinese chess player, i was very surprised that this kind of action would be allowed in chess match, it is 100% prohibited in chinese chess match.
now the " sealing move inside an envelop after 40 moves" is no more a rule.

9. October 2006, 15:39:37
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: if Fischer was in Topalov's position
Kiry:
accoding to Fischer, all the Russain chess players are not trustful, if you read Fischer's book, you know about it.

9. October 2006, 14:29:05
cheating up up 
Subject: another two guys
Bareev and Svidler, 2 friends, colleagues and former seconds of Kramnik, they sent open letter to suport
the Russian.

9. October 2006, 14:21:49
cheating up up 
Subject: if Fischer was in Topalov's position
two Russian grandmasters and former chess world champions, Boris Spassky (now he is a French citizen) and Kasparov (now he is a politician also the classical world champion creator) expressed their opinions in public on the Topalov-Kramnik match, they claimed that Fischer is not Topalov, Fischer's complaint was to the organizor about playing condition but not to his opponent, the question is: will Fischer complain if he was in Topalov position?
the answer is Fischer will do the same thing, he will protest Kramnik's strange behaviour to visit toilet frequently for suspecting the Russian is cheating, please remember that Fischer always accused the Russian cheating.
now Karpov, another ex-world champion,(Fischer forfeited the whole match to him) and Krochloi(3 times challenge to Karpov's world title) they also sending letters to Chessbase.com to support Kramnik, ha, these two are also Russian or Russian original.

7. October 2006, 20:38:31
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: re: world chess championship
Topalov won the game 9 with white, now Topalov is leading 5:4
what Kramnik was doing? he was playing for a draw, his play is very passive that is his style.
it looks like Kramnik is finished at this stage.
Topalov is the better player should win the match.
should Kramnik sue the FIDE if he lost by two games?

7. October 2006, 16:17:13
cheating up up 
Subject: Kramnik and toilet
kramnik visited the toilet 25 times in one game and 18 times in another, in the first 2 games, in 1 and half hour, 11 or 12 times.
the explanation of Kramnik's team is that Kramnik uses the toilet space for walking. According to the opinion of the Appeals Committee, this explanation is unsatisfactory, as Kramnik was staying each time 1 or 2 minutes in the toilet.

6. October 2006, 14:44:17
cheating up up 
Subject: re: world chess championship
Topalov won the game 8 with black, now the score is 4:4
i heard about Topalov showed his confidence and well preparation for the game by moving very very fast.
this just kept his opponent sitting on his chair and Kramnik got no time to visit his loved toilet as frequently as he wanted.
very good idea indeed by Topalov's team!

6. October 2006, 14:24:49
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: rating
Kiry:
my choice: Topalov 2813>2743
how you get your rating? is your rating unfair?

6. October 2006, 13:55:11
cheating up up 
Subject: Re:
Kiry:
1. if Topalov lost this match he would be the challenger the next time.
2. if Kramnik lost he will never be the challenger again because of his playing style.
3. the next world chese championship should be played as classical or under FIDE world champion system?

5. October 2006, 20:31:54
cheating up up 
Subject: less than human
Kramnik is more than 70% computer, and less than 30% human. according to Topalov's team, a protest was filed to FIDE that all the first 6 games Kramnik played almost 70% of the moves matched the first recommandation of a computer program called "xxxxxx9".

5. October 2006, 19:17:00
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: world chess championship crisis
now the seventh game of the world chess championship is ended with a victory for Topalov with black, the score is tied at 3:3. my prediction was right that i predict Topalov will not lose this match even he was behind Kramnik by one point. please read my post on 1 October 2006,23:25:30

5. October 2006, 16:22:39
cheating up up 
Subject: should forfeited game be counted in world chess championship
Kramnik forfeited his 5th game under protest, and FIDE decided to give the point to Topalov, the championship match continue with the score 3-2 for Kramnik, and Kramnik is playing under protest, he threatened to sue the FIDE after the match concluded.
another forfeited world championship game is the famous Fischer vs Spassky in 1972, the match was played also under the FIDE and the forfeited game was counted in Spassky's favour, and Fischer forfeited the 2nd under protest, the only different is Fischer was behind by 1-0.

in my opinion the foefeited game should be counted.
and KRAMNIK'S threaten to sue is very bad for the whole chess world. who is going to be the next sponsor?

5. October 2006, 15:13:40
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: world chess championship crisis
now the world chess is became very politics,Garry Kasparov is a politician in Russian, and he is the one created the so-called classical world champion, Karspavov and Short broke away from the FIDE to play their world championship match.
now there are many grandmasters sending letters to support Kramnik and critize the FIDE and the FIDE presendent llyumzhinov, and those grandmasters are always not not llyumzhinov's supporters.

5. October 2006, 14:42:34
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: world chess championship crisis
both players are using computer to do home preparation for this match, and both are d4 players.(from first game to the latest game)
Topalov is not FISCHER who always played the first move e4 before the match against Spassky but he did not play a single e4 game during the whole match. also FISCHER is the one who forfeited the 2nd game.
one more thing, FISCHER was playing against the mighty Russan team, and he always accused the Russan was cheating.

5. October 2006, 14:23:13
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: world chess championship crisis
Beren the 32nd:

yes, one thing Topalov should do is every time when Kramnik get up from his chair going to his restroom, Topapov get ready to punch the clock.

3. October 2006, 15:22:18
cheating up up 
Subject: Re: world chess championship crisis
gambler104:
why athlete take drugs? for the same reason Kramnik would take drug.
how many times a normal person going to the toilet?
the rule of chess should be changed, player shall not leave the table except going to toilet accompany with a referee,the game must be played out with no adjournment(before player can seal his move into an envelop after 40 moves), and one more thing should be changed, no second is allowed, this is an individual sport, a single game match, it is not a team match.

1. October 2006, 23:54:30
cheating up up 
Subject: world chess championship
from latest chessbase.com the sixth game will be played tomorrow with the score 3:2 for Kramnik.
this is good for Topalov, i predict that Topalov will not lost the match even Kramnik is ahead by one point.

1. October 2006, 21:34:38
cheating up up 
Subject: world chess championship crisis
people are on kramnik's side just because he won the first two games, forget the two games and you will see kramnik's behave is very strange, why he needed to go to the toilet so often, i suspect that he is taking drug before or during the game, the best way is to take an urine test of kramnik's and see what is the results come out.
both topalov and kramnik are using computer for home preparation.

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