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30. August 2007, 02:22:46
srnity 
Subject: Re: Rats
Tigger: Awwwww shucks - I thought I might've found em a home - people are always trying to give me their "exotic" pets, but they are expensive animals to care for, and right now it's just not financially possible. I forgot, your all the way on the other coast anyway

30. August 2007, 02:12:04
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: Rats
srnity: I don't teach kindergarten anymore and am not sure if these days they'd even let me have an animal in school. I let the kiddies take the rats out during play time. I had several rats (cuz at night the rats would fool around) ;) We had fish too...gold fish cuz they could survive the environment. I had some of them for over 5 years. Alas I haven't taught kindergarten for about 10 years. ;) (although I do have them come to me twice a week for art.

30. August 2007, 02:01:27
srnity 
Subject: Re: Rats
Tigger: Want some pet rats??? I know somebody who is looking for a home for three females (raised together)??? I mices, and rats, and rabbits, but for some reason the "rodent" family can't ever stop that "pooping" thing

30. August 2007, 01:59:27
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Re: Rats
Jim Dandy: probably the 25 screaming kids did that. I was likely hiding in the closet!

30. August 2007, 01:57:16
The Col 
Subject: Re: Rats
Tigger: Maybe you scared the poop out of them

30. August 2007, 01:55:28
Papa Zoom 
Subject: Rats
I used to have pet rats in my kindergarten class. They were the best. Very gentle and the only problem was they'd poop when you played with them.

30. August 2007, 01:54:52
srnity 
Subject: Re:refuge to wild animals in my home,
Jim Dandy: LMBO - Just watch out for the groundhogs and the possums - they are mean Even the dog knows she's got a better chance with a black bear - but I think that she thinks it's a human of some sort, plus the bear really doesn't seem to care, they just stand there and look at you like "What're you doing here?" - but if I ever saw a mother &/or cub, I'd disappear quick & the dog's on her own with that one

30. August 2007, 01:45:43
The Col 
Subject: Re:refuge to wild animals in my home,
srnity: Good to know,next time things get dicey at home I'll pack some food and search you out

30. August 2007, 01:42:20
srnity 
Subject: Re: srnity: That is so kind of you, if only more humans were like you!
Mousetrap: Not really, truth be told, we've had snakes as pets in my lifetime (not MY pets, but, still...) - I kind of "owe" a debt to "mousekind" & will always, always feel guilty

30. August 2007, 01:38:44
srnity 
Subject: Re:refuge to wild animals in my home,
Jim Dandy: Not necessarily "in" my home...the garage, the yard, or the woodpile outback works for me...but we don't feed anybody...they're on their own for meals It gets so cold in the mountains of PA sometimes, that people have actual heaters in their outdoor dog houses to keep them from freezing, so if they need a warm place to sleep, they're more than welcome to bed-down wherever, as long as they leave no "trace" behind.......sort of like what we do when we go tent camping in their backyard

30. August 2007, 01:27:47
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: More than welcome
srnity: That is so kind of you, if only more humans were like you!

30. August 2007, 01:20:00
The Col 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
srnity: Yeah,that's why we don't feed racoons or leave grbage outside,it'll be all over the deck by morning and they always return.I know the drill.Feral cats are usually born from other feral cats,they have never been domesticated.Strays that were previosly raised in a home environment won't last long on the streets or in the wild.Feral cats will bolt if you come too close,it takes years to gain their trust,if ever.I don't know about the poison or feed theory,we only heard them,we never saw or interacted with them.I just know they stunk when dead,and we all die,but hoefully not in my exhaust pipes
I wish I could offer refuge to wild animals in my home,that's cool that you are able

30. August 2007, 01:12:18
srnity 
Subject: Re: Mousemobiles
wetware: ROFLMBO Years ago, my husband and I had a mouse that lived "in" our car for a winter. He/she was such a slob And the kids kept em fed with all their "fast-food" droppings :)

30. August 2007, 01:08:38
srnity 
Subject: Re: Some don,t procreate
Mousetrap: LMBO

30. August 2007, 01:06:10
srnity 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
Jim Dandy: We live in the woods, everybody comes to call in the winter months - groundhogs, snakes, possums, skunks, raccoons, rabbits, deer, feral cats that used to be somebody's pets (?) - you name it, we've had it come around, we even get an occasional black bear walking thru looking for food.....but what has always worked is never, ever give them a "food source" - if you feed them, they stay put.....maybe that's why the mice in your home died there, or maybe they were poisoned somehow? The only "wild" animal that I've had to bury because they passed away were three cats that actually froze to death from being left outdoors in sub-freezing temps by humankind - wild animals tend to know how to take care of themselves, I guess

30. August 2007, 00:59:38
wetware 
Subject: Mousemobiles

I enjoyed this story from (U.S.) National Public Radio this evening, and thought some of you might, too.


"Commentator Julie Zickefoose has had many cars that have become homes to mice. She explains how to spot whether your car is desirable real estate for the furry little creatures."  [Running time is about 3 1/2 minutes]


Look for a red "Listen" icon just beneath "Signs a Mouse Has Been in Your Car":


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14033114


30. August 2007, 00:56:25
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: Some don,t procreate
srnity: There is a simple explaination for that

30. August 2007, 00:52:52
The Col 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
srnity: Cats are one thing,hopefully they don't invade your exhaust pipes.Mice are another story,they rarely say hello or goodbye.Even if they stay celebit and abstain from creating a family death is part of the cycle of life,it has no regard for season.It's your call,but when grandpa mouse meets his reward you'll know it,trust me

30. August 2007, 00:39:58
srnity 
Subject: Re:
Tuesday: One other thought on the "mouse-in-the-house" problem.......supposedly if you have mice, that means you don't have rats, they don't co-exist, the rats would "off" the mice.......that's what I've been told anyway (by friends who were upset with me for taking out the mouse-encampment)

30. August 2007, 00:34:50
srnity 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
Jim Dandy: Been there before, we live in the woods, EVERYBODY comes to visit in the wintertime But not everybody can procreate like they can...For some reason some don't procreate tho...my Dad had two that lived under his fridge that never had babies (unlike the rats in the woodpile outback, but the dogs were in charge of them, so they behaved) - I think the trick is to keep an eye on em (but like I said we get everybody come to visit when the weather gets "brrr" cold, including a whole lot of stray cats that people keep leaving to live outdoors like they weren't meant to be pets - that I'll never understand

30. August 2007, 00:25:03
The Col 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
srnity: We thought it was really cute,hearing them scury about now and again,and it gave us the warm and fuzzies feeling we were providing refuge from the cold.I guess they would need a way to get in and out.Then one day a terrible odour took over the kitchen.Mice don't pick what season they choose to expire,and if it's winter,and they are nesting in your pipes that'll be the place.It would be nice if they had more consideration,but they don't.Be forwarned,the smell is sickening

30. August 2007, 00:13:42
srnity 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
Jim Dandy: He/she/they must've had a direct-route to the great outdoors last winter.....they'd only be heard when the temps dropped way low (or we got a good bit of snow).....and they definately got out, the maintenance guys (I rent) cleaned out my exhaust fans earlier this summer and I asked em to check.....they didn't find anybody But I've also learned not to leave any food (including pet food) out at night, especially after my "mouse encampment" experience

30. August 2007, 00:06:25
srnity 
Subject: Re:
Tuesday: The battery-operated one I had REALLY worked, we stopped counting the deceased after a week, it worked so well. And no poison. I think the brand name was "Victor"(?) - it was a black box, 6"x4", and it even had a light that let you know when you got one. Best part was only a couple seconds and that was it, no noise, no long-term suffering - other than the "humane" ones, it was the best we could do

30. August 2007, 00:05:18
The Col 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
srnity: I too had mice who lived in the exhaust of my kitchen stove area,some died,the stench was sickening not to mention the expense of removing the rotting carcases.Good luck with that

29. August 2007, 23:54:58
srnity 
Subject: Re: Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.
Mousetrap: I still feel really, really bad about taking out the mices that year And I do try my best not to bother them, as long as they don't bother me - I had a mouse that lived (presumably all by themselves) in my kitchen exhaust fan all thru the winter last year, and it was okey by me, I just couldn't use the fan & in turn, they didn't poo in my stuff and went back outdoors when the spring came And they are more than welcome back this winter (on the same terms, of course)

29. August 2007, 21:49:17
The Col 
Subject: Re: Human problem
Tuesday: I once dated a vegan.She was also a hardcore activist,she would join the groups of people who sprayed the coats of people wearing fur.One night after a few drinks I was having chicken wings back at her house,she asked for one so I gave it to her.The next day you would think I had violated her in the most dasterdly way.I didn't force it on her,she asked for the

29. August 2007, 21:19:14
~Patty~ 
Subject: Re:
Tuesday:

29. August 2007, 21:15:43
~Patty~ 
Leona Helmsley has died and left 12 million dollar to her dog.

29. August 2007, 21:10:41
Kili 
Subject: Re: Human problem
Mousetrap: Humans are always a big problem!
Love animals, don´t eat them!
Go vegans!!!

29. August 2007, 19:03:06
Mousetrap 
Subject: Human problem
Humans are a big problem to us mice. There are just far too many of them in my opinion. However I do have friends who say that I should live and let live.

29. August 2007, 19:00:41
anastasia 
Subject: Re: Re problems
Tuesday: ROTFLMAO!!!!!

29. August 2007, 18:51:12
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re: Re problems
Tuesday: They do it in my water supply! How am I expected to drink that?

29. August 2007, 18:40:42
Mousetrap 
Subject: Re problems
Hi I,m a mouse and I have a human problem.
Its like this, this human lives in my house and for some reason or other acts like it owns the place. It keeps planting silly traps with moldy bread and cheese in front of my door and I keep nearly running into it. What is the aim of that? Does anyone know? Surely it could put it somewhere else if it really needs to do that. Also if this human does not leave my property soon I am gonna have to charge it rent.
Can anyone help? Thanks!

29. August 2007, 17:16:31
anastasia 
Subject: Re: mouse problem
Eriisa: OMG!! I think I would have moved!! Actually...I was watching a show about infestations on rats and mice....bugs,stuff like that and they had cameras set up in this one couples house in New York City...guess it was a condo or something actually...anywho,they had literally HUNDREDS of rats running through the attic and walls...they DID have to move...not sure what they did to solve the problem tho,I can't remember,lol....The rats in NY aren't affraid of humans anymore and they say that they have to keep changing the poisons for them and roaches because every so many months the new babies are immune to the poisons....thats a scary though,huh??

29. August 2007, 14:30:04
Eriisa 
Subject: Re: mouse problem
anastasia: well, my mouse story was RATS. Now, I like rats.... but I don't trust the wild ones because of diseases. They are a bit of a problem in the area where I live.

We had a couple get into our house, and we figured they'd just get back out again. <buzzer> Wrong answer Jack! In a couple of months we have over 30 rats running though the house. Up in the attic, running up and down inside the walls. I didn't want to kill them, so I plugged up the holes they were chewing with steel wool, All that did was make them FURIOUS and they would actually eat through the steel wool. We tried the live traps, glue traps & Dcon poison. None of that worked. They'd walk right through the glue traps, and DCon was just a tasty snack, literally. They had green poop from it. lol.

Not only were they in our clothes, and destroying the house, they were also in our stock for sale we kept there. I lost several thousand $$ worth of clothing. They also damaged the wiring in the walls.

After 6 months, we gave up and bought some poison called Havoc. They were dead within 2 to 3 days. Uh, we did have to kinda move out for a week though, since they died inside the walls. 30 dead rats were a bit smelly.

Now the next winter, we had 1 more get in, but he was behaved, and would stay in one corner. In the spring, he disappeared so I think he actually left. I think i finally found the break in the foundation where they were getting in, and now we don't get visitors anymore.

29. August 2007, 04:20:14
anastasia 
Subject: Re: mouse problem
srnity: We had a mouse come in 2 years ago and I named him Gus-Gus,lol....well,my husband humored me and let me try live traps....I was woke early one morning to Gus-Gus running into the trap..I don't mean he WENT into the trap..I mean he hit the darn thing,lol....I was cheering him on...come on Gus-Gus..get in the trap!!! Well....Gus-Gus went over the trap...he was getting onto my nightstand and getting to close for comfort for me..I know they are cute but they also carry diesaese and didn't want him in the houe any longer then he had to be.Wouldn't use poiseon cuz he could run off and die in a wall or summin...ewwww,lol...Hubby said we had to use glue traps...GAWD I HATE THOSE THINGS!! they are horrible...we got rid of Gus-Gus tho...I guess death in any form is ugly

29. August 2007, 03:14:30
srnity 
Subject: Re: mouse problem
Tuesday: As much as I hate to kill things, sometimes you have no choice. I had a small mouse-in-the-house problem that turned into an all-out "mouse encampment" a few years ago (we live in the woods). I tried the "humane" traps (they LOVE peanut butter, btw) but eventually had to take em out one-by-one (they say rabbits multiply - ha-ha). I found a battery-operated trap that you put food in and when the mouse entered it, they were zapped in seconds. Cruel, I know, but they went quickly, no screeching, no lingering, no long-term suffering. The problem with poisoning something is that it doesn't die right away & suffers (same with those awful glue things). This trap was really, really quick, they died instantly. I apologize to all mouse-loving people reading this, I love em too, but when it got to a point where they were pooping in my clothes in my drawers, enough was enough...

28. August 2007, 22:22:35
Ewe 

28. August 2007, 22:19:22
Ewe 
Subject: Mice problem...
Modified by Ewe (28. August 2007, 22:20:24)
Have you tried humane live traps? Heres some info...
http://www.aolshowme.co.uk/show-me-around-the-house/clip/7015/view/humane-pest-control

(sorry it hasnt come up as a link to click on)


28. August 2007, 21:57:59
Ewe 
Subject: Re: I googled to find a Lassie,Vick connection

Tuesday

28. August 2007, 21:33:23
The Col 
Subject: Re: I googled to find a Lassie,Vick connection
Tuesday: And you wonder why the fan clubs keep far apart

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