Jim Dandy: That really is true to...poeple think JUST BECAUSE you have a purebred dog,you should breed it...WRONG! Like I said...there is a very small percentage of dogs that really are worthy of being bred.

 Our trainer,the one that owns Niki's Mom,has had dogs for over 20 years now,and her Mom was the first female he ever found worthy of being bred.Now THAT is selective!!

srnity: and another thing is tho...even if the dog IS purebred...that is still not a reason to breed it..there are SO many other things to take into consideration...I laugh when someone says..oh...mine is AKC....ummm,so?? People think just because it is AKC it is worthy of breeding..not true.Take my 2 for a real good example...We paid $2,000.00 for Damien..he comes from very good bloodlines,the majority of his ancestors are titled,a few world champs in it..his parents were not titled,which...had we known THEN what we know NOW,we may or may not have bought him.We are TRYING to get him to be breed worthy...show rating,tiltles,etc BUT his nerves are a bit on the weak side,he is a bit unsure of himself...tho to the untrained eye...you wouldn't know this..but BECAUSE of this,I take extra care in my training of him,to try to build his confidance...if it never comes about then he won't be bred,not ever... becuase you wouldn't want to breed weak nerves into a bloodline.Then you have Niki...we paid $800.00 for her,she has a proven working bloodline,right down to both her Mom and Dad.ALL dogs in her heritage have proven themselves by achieveing titles,show rating....ALOT of world Champion blood in her.She is proving to have excellent nerves,good personality,ability to focus with distractions.Damien is almos 2 and not one person has ever said...OMG!! you just HAVE to consider breeding him.Niki at 4 months was getting OMG!!! You can't seriously be thinking of getting her fixed!!??!! She is one to watch! Even my vet (who think a rock should be sterilized) said that if he has ever seen a dog that is going to be worthy of being bred,it's Niki.

 So....point to this story is that even tho a dog is purebred,AKC still does not mean you are getting good quality.Maybe...MAYBE half the purebred dogs out there are actully worthy of being bred to carry on the bloodline.

srnity: He told you the cat belonged to mother nature!!??!! Oh Dear LORD!! People kill me!!

 I was sitting in the vet's office the one day and this guy was asking me all about my dogs...were we going to breed,blah,blah,blah....I told him that it depends...we were taking the proper steps right now to see if Damien is even worthy of breeding,that it would still be at LEAST another year for us to know for sure IF he is breed worthy...he started to tell me that he was gonna breed his dog..I think a mastif mix with his neighbor's dog and that they were in it for the money....I had to tell him to stop talking to me,lol....how IGNORANT of a person to be like that....THAT is why there are so many animlas in shelters.WHat a shame that people feel the need to breed animlas for the sole purpose of making money.I know whatever you decide to do with this kitty,you will listen to your heart and do the right thing..Another reason she may be howling like that is because she is sick or something is really wrong with her...At least at a shelter they will give her an exam and try to adopt her out.

Small dog kills 6-week-old girl in California

October 9, 2000
Web posted at: 6:17 AM EDT (1017 GMT)

LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- A small Pomeranian dog killed a 6-week-old baby while the infant's caretaker briefly left the child unattended to warm a bottle of milk, authorities in Los Angeles said.

The relative, who was caring for the infant girl, found her head buried in the dog's mouth Saturday night, sheriff's Deputy Cruz Solis said. The girl died of head trauma at an area hospital, he said.

The baby's name was withheld because her parents were out of the country and had not been notified, Solis said.

The relative has not been charged. Animal control officers took the dog.

Pomeranians are a breed of miniature canines that have a foxlike face, pointy ears and long, fluffy hair. The deputy said Pomeranian attacks are rare.

"Obviously it doesn't take much to kill a 6-week old baby but it's not something that happens with that breed," Solis said

Chris Window, from the Rottweiler Club, said it was very uncommon for attacks of this nature to take place.

But he said young children should never be left alone with any breed of large dog.

"All breeds of dogs are animals. They do revert to animal instincts. If a dog is confronted with a situation they are not used to, they can react unexpectedly."<!-- E BO -->

 I must say that is very sad,when any death occurs like that,it is sad....I also must say I am very pleased that they included this last part with the article...ANY DOG CAN AND WILL BITE.

 Why was a young child carrying a baby around the dog anyways....kids should NEVER be left alone with any dog.

This is right off of the ASPCA website link...this just shows NO dog breed is safe!

October 10, 2007
CLEVELAND, OHIO: ALL ARE INVITED TO HEAR ASPCA LOBBYIST SPEAK AT BSL CONFERENCE

A dog attacks and legislators act—and your dog could be next! Know the facts regarding dog attacks and what public policies do and don’t work. Join BSL (breed-specific legislation) expert Debora Bresch of the ASPCA’s Legislative Services team at this canine legislative conference on October 25.

Breed-Specific Legislation Workshop
October 25, 2007, 5:30 P.M. to 8:00 P.M.
Conducted by Debora M. Bresch, Esq., ASPCA Legislative Services

Location: The Shoreby Club, 40 Shoreby Drive, Bratenahl, OH

Breed-specific legislation is not only about pit bulls. In cities across the country, many different breeds have been regulated or considered for regulations, including some that might surprise you:

• Australian cattle dogs (aka blue heelers)
  
• German shepherds
  
• golden retrievers
  
• Labrador retrievers
  
• pugs
  
• all terriers
  
• all dogs over 100 pounds
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Ideally, this breed-neutral scheme should include the following:

• <img>Enhanced enforcement of dog license laws, with adequate fees to augment animal control budgets and surcharges on ownership of unaltered dogs to help fund low-cost pet sterilization programs in the communities in which the fees are collected. To ensure a high licensing rate, Calgary, Canada—its animal control program funded entirely by license fees and fines—imposes a $250 penalty for failure to license a dog over three months old.
  
• Enhanced enforcement of leash/dog-at-large laws, with adequate penalties to ensure that the laws are taken seriously and to augment animal control funding.
  
• Dangerous dog laws that are breed-neutral and focus on the behavior of the individual dog, with mandated sterilization and microchipping (or another permanent identification) of dogs deemed dangerous, and options for mandating muzzling, confinement, adult supervision, training, owner education and, in aggravating circumstances—such as when the owners cannot adequately control the dog or where the dog causes unjustified injury—euthanasia. In Multnomah County, Oregon, a breed-neutral ordinance imposing graduated penalties on dogs and owners according to the seriousness of the dogs’ behavior has reduced repeat injurious bites from 25 percent to 7 percent.
  
• Laws that hold dog owners financially accountable for failure to adhere to animal control laws, as well as civilly and criminally liable for unjustified injuries or damage caused by their dogs. Calgary has reduced reported incidents of aggression by 56 percent, and its bite incidents by 21 percent, by requiring owners of dogs who have displayed dog aggression or human aggression to pay fines ranging from $250 to $1500.
  
• Laws that prohibit chaining or tethering, coupled with enhanced enforcement of animal cruelty and animal fighting laws. Lawrence, Kansas, has significantly reduced dog fighting and cruelty complaints by enacting an ordinance prohibiting tethering a dog for over one hour.
  
• Laws that mandate the sterilization of shelter animals and make low-cost sterilization services widely available
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Jim Dandy: all dogs are created differently,that what makes them wonderful!!!! It would be silly to think ALL pitbulls are a threat just like it would be silly to ban all pitbulls.We need to get to the REAL problem and that is the idiots that abuse these dogs by fighting them.....can you tell I am weee bit passionate about bsl,lol.

 I suppose my thing is..I don't understand why people wil believe all the negative without even TRYING to get to know the positive too.

Jim Dandy: beg your pardon hun...I didn't notice that the weiner dog was also crazed,lol....I would not go into a room with ANY crazed dog,Im passionate,not stupid,lol.

 I am not flashing credentails...I am simply asking what PERSONAL expieriance you have had with a specific breed.To me..saying all pits are mean and should be banned,not bred,gotten rid of whatever is passing judgement like saying all african americans can dance,all asians are good at math,etc,etc.If you want to make a judgment call do it because you KNOW the entire breed,as a whole,not because of stories you have seen or heard.Have you even bothered to read anything positve on the breed? Please...look at how many law enforcements are usng pits..please..look at how many therapy dogs are pits,please look at how many top honors pits take at shows,pulling compititions...please look at how many families love their pit and would hurt anyone that tried to hurt it.why should these dogs and these responsible people be the ones that are punished?? the thugs don't obey the laws as it is...what woudld bsl do??Punish the RESPONSIBLE OWNERS and THE GOOD DOGS!

 I commend you for your efforts on finding homes for animals....did you know to house every cat in the states,EACH PERSON would have to own 21...dogs would be 7...but that stat was from a few years ago so I'm sure it is a bit higher now..

Ewe: no breed but the wolf exsits naturally...every domestic dog has been altered by humans

Ewe:I personally dont have anything against them, which if you understand what Im saying you will know that already. I said they should cease to breed!! BIG difference!! Yes so that breed will no longer exist!

sad you want an entire breed gone because of what man has done to it....what man fears,man destroys.

Ewe: I wasn't sure WHAT you meany Ewe,lol...if you meant the breed should be destoryed or not...but IF you ban a breed...what happens to it? It ceases to exsist.

 O.k....let me take your side of this...lets say all pits are banned...there are no more pits in the world for people to own...do you HONESTLY think that the criminals that once owned and fought them are going to just say..."oh shucks fellos..lets go home and play tic-tak,toe."??? I highly doubt it...they will find ANOTHER breed to corrupt and turn into fighters...so,let's say they pick the german sheperd...Will you then,in 20 years hate them as well and want them banned?? ok,fine...I will stop owning and training them because of others being irresponsable.....so now there are no more GSD's to own/fight,or anything else...so,now the criminals go onto yet ANOTHER breed.

 I pose the same questions to you Ewe that I posed to Jim..how many pitbulls have you had personal experiance with? How many time a week do YOU take the time to read the breed history/profile,stats...and how many times a week do you talk to real owners..the ones that love the breed for the breed,NOT the rep of having it??

Jim Dandy: I have a question,would you rather be locked in a room with a crazed pit bull or a crazed weiner dog?....why is the pitbull crazed?? THAT is the attitude that pisses me off.There are VERY few dogs that I would never approach,but I do not base this on BREED.I WELCOME AGGRESSIVE dog legislation...but NOT breed specific,that is just wrong.check out the atts site...labs ratre LOWER the pits in temperment testing.

 I dont argue that larger breeds such as pits are more powerful,sure but little dogs can and do bite,often more then larger dogs..I believe it was a pomeranian (sp) that attacked and killed a baby a few years back.

100% in agreement that these dogs often fall into the wrong hands and THIS is the problem that has to be addressed......How many shelters have you voluneered at Jim Dandy? how many pitbulls have you had personal experiance with? How many time a week do YOU take the time to read the breed history/profile,stats...and how many times a week do you talk to real owners..the ones that love the breed for the breed,NOT the rep of having it??

Ewe: so,should ALL breeds not be bred since ALL breeds CAN be taught to fight??.Mine are TRAINED PROTECTION...should they be put down? The weiner dogs that seems ot love my ankles,they should be put down as well,yes?? OH!OH! The cat that EVERY MORNING attacks the birds under my feeder...PUT IT DOWN TOO!!

 I DO understand your point,honestly BUT the thing is...your RIGHT..it is the HUMAN'S FAULT,but still we insist on punishing the DOG!

 What about popsicle?? the pit that TO DATE has the LARGEST DRUG BUST ON RECORD IN TEXAS!!??!! he was found in a freezer in a trashbag left to suffocate to death.

 Helen Keller...her therapy dog was a PITBULL.These are such wonderful loving dogs in the WRONG HANDS...The children in Uganda are TAUGHT to pick up a gun and go fight..CHILDREN! now a child would not,by nature just pick up a gun and go start shooting people...just as a dog,will NOT just start attacking out of the blue.

 When you say they should not breed THIS type of dog at all....what does that mean? they should not breed a dog that fights and is aggressive?? I agree 100%!! But IF you are saying that the Pitbull should not be bred,well,that is just pure crap.People are judging the dog BECAUSE OF THE HUMAN!

 I have a challange for EVERYONE...go to some of the sites I have posted in the past,I will repost if needed....see if YOU can pick out the "pitbull" among the other dogs...go to a pitbull resue and volunteer for a few days with these dogs...I would bet a paycheck NOBODY would because GOD FORBID your imaige of this breed is anything but bad.

Jim Dandy: EDUCATION,EDUCATION,EDUCATION!!! people see a "pitbull" and think the worst about it....9 times out of 10,it's not even a Pit.It is just a shame that people do nothing to educate themselves on this breed,they just take everything they hear/see on the news at face value...do they attack...sure....so does EVERY DOG if so provoked or trained.A dog only knows what it is taught.I have been biten by a mixed breed,a doberman,and several weiner dogs..dunno why but I have NO luck with weiner dogs,lol.

 For the things irresponsable owners and back yard breeders are doing,the RESPONSABLE ones are the ones being punished.

 I find it appauling that people want to ban an ENTIRE breed of dog..banning = the end of an entire breed! This breed in specific is EXTREAMLY loyal...I want people to understand that the REASON they fight is because they are TAUGHT to by their HUMAN owner(s) they fight to please their owner(s) You can beat a dog and what does it do? turn and STILL wags it's tail for you..wanting you to love it.

 I do not even own a pit,but as you know I own GSD's,and they too are on many "watch lists" so..because YOU (figurativly speaking of course,lol) go letting your GSD run all over town,and it bites someone..or because YOU choose to not socalize it,leave it caged up and let it's energy become SO pent up that it becomes aggressive,I should be punished by having to put my dogs down? I socailize them,train with them EVERY DAY,take them into public NO LESS then 5 times A WEEK,have TITLES on the older one..BUT because you,and some others do not feel the need to take responsability to do so with your own..I will be punished which mean my dogs will be punished.

 It irritates the piss out of me that people are on some witch hunt about this breed.15 years ago it was the rotts,and dobs,now it is the Pit.Breeders should be state licensed (ALL BREEDERS OF ALL BREEDS!) have unanounced inspetions no less then 4 times a year.A good breeder will run back ground checks,often go visit the house they are selling to,they breed for the love,quality,health and preservation of the breed..a back yard breeder breeds for money,aggression,and quantity of the dog..they could care less about the dog,they see cash.

 If I can change ONE PERSON'S mind on this breed...if I can save ONE dog from death at the hands of ignorant owners and breed bans then it will all be worth it.

 Everyone has a passion (I hope) in their lives..mine is animals,I will NOT stop,shut up or turn a blind eye on these dogs that are suffering at the hands of HUMANS!

Jules: My husband works for the state road dept here...any dead deer that are on road way in his county are picked up and taken to an animal sancurary that house lions,tigers,panters,other exotic animals that have been taken from owners that kept them as "pets" and rescued from road side shows.They use the dear meat to help feed them.

"There was a prog on TV where 4 wolves were killed over the death of one cow where they had just been reintroduced to the area after being killed off."

 That to me is just crazy...about as crazy as the ariele hunting of wolves that takes place in the states here.It's all just sick! These people that do things like this will talk to a higher being one day!!! I don't understand....a wolf kills a cow..in the wild,THATS how things work...the wolf doesn't know that cow belongs to some farmer,so the farmer shoots and kills the wolf,or in this case wolves...a human shots and kills another human and he gets 3 years in jail and back out on the streets he goes,living his life 

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/iowa_pig_hangings?c=weekly_enews

please go here..read it and then sign the petition!! Thanks!!