I putting in for the position of money manager for BrainKing. I have a degree in accounting and Business Management. I currently am a manager at my current place of employment. I would be able to handle the incoming money for Fencer. one for BrainKing, two for me. etc etc etc. lol

Stevie..send me the next PM and i will tell you who will be the "Head admin" or at least a very good guess LOL

doubt if he will answer AD LOL
Had pm from me nearly all day without reply

Does this mean I'm not going to be an admin? :(

Was only having fun with it. Was hoping you'd laugh.

(but if you do decide to use me, I do have the proper initials.)

if you really want a poll on autopass SOD, why not set one up on the web outside of BK and just post the link publicly.
I for one would like to vote on that issue. I would not divulge at all what my vote would be but I would cast my vote in the most time efficient manner that I could as that is how I like everything to be if possible LOL

Thanks Fencer.
On another note, how far off roughly do you think BK2 is?

Of course I will let know if it happens. Nothing like that is officially valid until it's announced in Server News.

If you look across the boards, there is so much being let out, we would have to be silly not to notice these things LOL

So will you let us know if you allow others to do it also, and who they are when you do? or keep it secret.
Because If its going to happen, and its not thought about carefully, I will not be renewing my membership for definate depending on who gets the privaledges

I don't know where you're getting that information from Steve (actually I do but I won't name names) but its wrong. The only thing on BK2 right now is the ability to add more than one moderator per board. There are no admins except Fencer and Liquid.

I have such set up in BK 1.0 as well. And it's only my problem.

But you already have admins in BK2 set up. I just would like to know what they can do?
So would all the other paying members

Why not takea Brainking Poll as to how players feed about an "auto button" If this site can pole playrs as to what size and style T-shirt they might like to buy.....Let's get a grip on the pole situation and take a pole as to who and how many players may want an "auto pass button"

Nobody is going to be another admin until I decide it's really necessary. Is that clear enough? End of discussion.

Me. AD=administrator.....it's time the secret came out. So don't mess with me. I have power. hehehe

Customer Service People who are going to be admin??

Who told??

...ups his meds with the doctors approval...you're not haveing any hallucinations are you dear??
Auditory....visual...smell anything wierd??

<AD thinks about RL's last statement.....thinking.....thinking.....OVERLOAD!!!>

huh?

Then, in addition to free brains, I promise to let everyone win every game!!!!!
*bows to the thunderous cheers from the masses*

Yeah but I already have the initials for the job. Besides, I'm better qualified under the Peter Principle. :/

That would give everyone who votes for you, more brains than the proposed admin members LMAO or is that different brains ;oÞ

If I'm elected top administrator I will give free brains to everyone!!! Remember, vote for R*L election day.

oh sh... not AGAIN a supermoderator thread, PLEASE

maybe one of the customer service people who are going to be admin and already trying it out on BK2 can tell us then?

Yeah, and I am being serious for a change AD ;o)

AD = Administrative Director

Have you all heard the term, "He// in a handbasket?" ;)

I guess no one else wants to know either

????

So what actually are the new "admin" positions on BK2.0 going to be able to do then Fencer?
Just moderate all the boards or go deeper than that?

Thanks, well that will make BK a little more bearable then

Don't be paranoid Stevie, you are not the only one who asks me questions. There are no other admins on BK, of course.

I just saw Fencer look at this and as expected, my question wasnt answered :o( Why do you ignore me now Fencer unless its giving me hints to leave?

Socks in our house don't come in pairs ... they go into the washing machine together but by the time the dryer is finished with them its all over red rover (Bernice ... here's another one). Just doubled your ip count BBW!

"or other Admin's have time"

I thought only Fencer or Liquid could be included in this? Or is there something we dont know?

Brian: There are other possibilities but I cannot reveal them, otherwise cheaters could bypass them much easier :-)

It's already implemented. I can see on each Profile page all IP addresses that had been used with the account and a list of possible "clones".

Ok Fencer then how will the new BK2.0 be able to catch cheaters with multiple accounts then? I guess I dont how you will be able to do this the automated way as you suggested previously. I think however it is not unreasonable if you have a household where everyone plays at the site, to have one account as a paying member. The ideas here are to increase membership and reduce the incidents of cheating players. There is no full proof way of geting rid of cheating but at least try to keep it to a minimum. OF course we are all watchdogs. I routinely check out my opponents previous game records as a way to scout them, particularly new players I havent played before. That is how you catch the cheaters. Fencer has shown to me in the past to take swift action when it proved to him that cheating is going on. I commend him on his actions and commitment along with Liquid to improve the site for us now and those future players that will join the site.

IP Address - Actually what should happen is when 2 players do connect from the same IP address, AND they do play each other, those names should be "flaged". Then possible when Fencer, or other Admin's have time - they should occasionally check to see that those games are truly being played, and not an excess of games (just to boost ratings) are happening.

Point 5) has been already applied several times.

IPv6 - Can't wait for that. Enough IP's that every pair of socks & underware in my house can have it's own IP address! <grin>

Ok, so we can add:

3) Raise minimum number of moves to be counted as a rated game.

4) Don't change nothing, and look at each case by hand when the need arises.

5) And punishment for anyone trying to cheat the system and other players here are to lower their BKR's to 1000 and make them start from a low account. (Or removed them completely from the BKR tables.)

Don't believe that. The same IP doesn't have to mean the same computer. For example, all employees of one company are shown with the same IP address because they share the same proxy server.
It will be much easier when IPv6 is widely adopted and used everywhere.

Of course the best way to catch player with phony second accounts is being able to track their IP address. Using this tracker too you can create a rule that the only way more than one account can from the same computer source is by having one account as a paying member. Also in situations where there appears to be a lot of timeouts against one person, you can close out the dummy account and then lower the legitimate player's account by 1000 BKR. This would discourage cheating.

....dont like either idea BBW

With BK2.0 hopefully it will be easier to sort out the players with multiple IDs being used to boost ratings. However one way to make it more time consuming for cheaters like this is to increase the minimum moves for a game to be a considered a rated game. I was thinking increasing it to like 10 moves per side. As always you can always scout your opponents profile. When investigating their gameplay you can see awkward things like many games against the same opponent and it is under 5 moves and then a timeout. I noticed this in a couple of people before and alerted Fencer and he gave them the boot.

Maybe some extra rules are needed to keep people from cheating (play same person or "dummy" accounts to improve ratings.)

Only ideas:

1) Only make tournament games count towards ratings. (Probable too drastic)

2) Have a limit of 1 game against the same player in 1 month time count towards BKR rating points. (So if I play (Player X) on May 15th, it will count towards the ratings. If I again play that same person on May 20th, then that would not count towards the ratings.

As far as programs are concerned, can anyone suggest a Atomic Chess one so my BKR will get past 1000 one day :). RL, I agree, care for a game? DP, STFU, nobody wants to hear a word you got to say, go back to your hole in the ground and stay there.

Now about the BKR. Chessmaster made a good point. If you play two games against someone and win only one, your BKR will be different depending on if you lose first or win first.

It is true a stronger player has little to gain and much to lose by playing a much lower rated opponent. But there are two ways this applies. Some may want to protect their rating, but others want to protect their time! In chess I seek out players of similar strength to increase the odds of an intersting game.

We all started out with zero as our BKR, and are where we are now because we played games and won, or lost.
I'm way addicted to Crowded backgammon, and I don't care who I play...I just want to play.
Which is why my BKR is like a YoYo...and isn't the playing of the game supposed to be the fun part of the game....not the rating?