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2. Helmikuu 2009, 17:05:05
Czuch 
President Obama is planning to sign the FREEDOM OF CHOICE ACT. (FOCA)
This is something he promised to do if he got elected.

Very briefly, FOCA would:
- Eliminate any regulations that currently protect women from unsafe abortion clinics.
- Force American taxpayers to fund abortions.
- Force every state to allow partial-birth abortions. (They are not forbidden.)
- Oversee the conscience rights of doctors, nurses and hospitals that oppose abortion.
- Strip parents of their right to be involved in their minor daughter's abortion decision.


Many people believe that abortion is murder..... and even though the laws say that a woman has a right to choose abortion as an option, where do we(our government) get off saying that people who oppose this should be forced to contribute money towards it????

2. Helmikuu 2009, 17:32:22
Czuch 
Otsikko: Re:
Czuch: I mean.... I have a right to plaster myself with tattoos too, or plaster myself with booze, or even plaster my walls..... but does the government give me money to do it??????

2. Helmikuu 2009, 20:43:45
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: where do we(our government) get off saying that people who oppose this should be forced to contribute money towards it????
Czuch:   Exactly right.  And partial birth abortion is nothing short of genocide on babies.   He needs to rethink that position.  I certainly don't want my tax money funding such things.

2. Helmikuu 2009, 21:12:44
Bernice 
Otsikko: Re:
Czuch: well that wont win him many friends

3. Helmikuu 2009, 03:37:08
coan.net 
Otsikko: Re: FOCA (Freedom of Choice Act)
Czuch: I don't want to debate for or against anything, but did want to post this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/choice.asp

Just in case what you posted gives someone the wrong information.

3. Helmikuu 2009, 04:49:25
Czuch 
Otsikko: Re: FOCA (Freedom of Choice Act)
coan.net: okay, thanks, I am sure the information I got was at least somewhat biased, since it came from a Catholic nun cousin of mine...

3. Helmikuu 2009, 05:02:03
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: FOCA (Freedom of Choice Act)
Czuch:  Yeah, it's hard to find an unbiased source of info on this anywhere.

3. Helmikuu 2009, 05:01:18
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: FOCA (Freedom of Choice Act)
Muokannut Papa Zoom (3. Helmikuu 2009, 05:02:23)
coan.net:  The problem with the law (as in so many of these kinds of laws) is that there are ambiguous phrases.  Here's how the law reads.

"A government may not (1) deny or interfere with a woman's right to
choose - (A) to bear a child; (B) to terminate a pregnancy prior to
viability; or (C) to terminate a pregnancy after viability where
termination is necessary to protect the life or health of the woman; or
(2) discriminate against the exercise of the rights set forth in
paragraph (1) in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities,
services, or information.

In item C, what does it mean exactly the "life" or "health" of a mother.  Protect in what way?  From death?  Or from other things (like being fat is unhealthy and I don't wanna be fat and unhealthy so I want an abortion).  I'm not clear on this and neither are many others. 

"[The Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA)] would sweep away hundreds of anti-abortion laws, policies" - National Organization of Women web site.See Here

This can't be a good thing. 

" Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, joined
pro-choice members of Congress and activists at a Capitol Hill press
conference to introduce legislation that would codify
Roe v. Wade into law and guarantee a woman's right to choose in all 50 states. " - NARAL

It seems that this law would remove states rights.  I thought the US was in favor of States Rights???

If FOCA is passed, it would automatically overturn
  • State abortion reporting requirements in all 50 states
  • Forty-four states' laws concerning parental involvement
  • Forty states' laws on restricting later-term abortions
  • Forty-six states' conscience protection laws for individual health care providers
  • Twenty-seven states' conscience protection laws for institutions
  • Thirty-eight states' bans on partial-birth abortion
  • Thirty-three states' laws on requiring counseling before an abortion
  • Twenty-eight states' laws requiring a waiting period before an abortion, and
  • Sixteen states' laws concerning ultrasounds before an abortion
see here

I think there's a lot more to this law than people think.  It will be a sad day for the pro life movement and unborn children (and parental rights) if this becomes the law of the land.  There will be a huge fight over this one and if Obama succeeds, the next Republican president will overturn it.


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