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30. Elokuu 2009, 16:52:09
Czuch 
Otsikko: Is health care a human "right"?
How can it be so?

30. Elokuu 2009, 17:49:17
gogul 
Otsikko: Re: Is health care a human "right"?
Muokannut gogul (30. Elokuu 2009, 21:54:55)
Czuch: If the duty weights more but it doesn't. It should be the will to offer health care, but it's about a billion you'd be unlike to go on cruise with except to sink the ship.

31. Elokuu 2009, 04:26:58
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re: Is health care a human "right"?
Czuch:  I'd say no to that.  It's no more a right than one has the "right" to a free home and free electricity.  How about free cars too?  Can't get to work without a car.  For that matter, everyone deserves a job too.  Even lazy do nothings! 

Those that can say yes to the above don't think straight in my view.  Hard work gets all of those things.  I grew up in a family of 9 and the only thing that was ever handed to me was a mop to clean up and my brothers old clothes. 

31. Elokuu 2009, 06:37:47
ScarletRose 
Otsikko: Re: Is health care a human "right"?
Artful Dodger:  Whoo hoo.. you go! I hear ya.. I started working at just barely 15..

31. Elokuu 2009, 07:04:24
Bernice 
Otsikko: Re: Is health care a human "right"?
Artful Dodger: I agree with ScarletRose and you AD....it is the 'nere do nothings of the earth that expect everything for nothing...........

31. Elokuu 2009, 08:41:03
tyyy 
Otsikko: Re: Is health care a human "right"?
Bernice: That 's like sect. 8 housing in the US, some have the audacity to complain about the location of their housing

31. Elokuu 2009, 15:26:34
Mort 
Otsikko: Re: Is health care a human "right"?
Artful Dodger: Hang on.... the material 'freebies' are moot. We are talking healthcare. And regardless of even if their was maximum employment, thinking that is 100% of adults is a myth. This is an economic fact of the way things are.

And if you don't think healthcare is considered a morally right thing to have. Live without it then.

31. Elokuu 2009, 18:52:02
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:And if you don't think healthcare is considered a morally right thing to have. Live without it then.
(V):I don't have to live without it.  I earn it.   Myself.  It's called personal responsibility. 

31. Elokuu 2009, 18:53:15
Mort 
Otsikko: Re:And if you don't think healthcare is considered a morally right thing to have. Live without it then.
Artful Dodger: But you are asking that people in your country don't?

... Thought part of the American revolution was to get rid of the class system??

31. Elokuu 2009, 18:55:39
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:But you are asking that people in your country don't?
(V): Gee, I looked at all my previous posts on this topic and I can't find any posts where I asked that.  Maybe you could point it out for me.

31. Elokuu 2009, 18:57:23
Mort 
Otsikko: Re:But you are asking that people in your country don't?
Artful Dodger: So.. ok, I thought you implied that certain people should not have healthcare as a right, I didn't think it was a matter of a certain nationality.

So, who are these people?

31. Elokuu 2009, 20:11:05
Papa Zoom 
Otsikko: Re:But you are asking that people in your country don't?
(V): Access may be a fundamental right to every human being but free care isn't.

31. Elokuu 2009, 21:03:48
Mort 
Otsikko: Re:But you are asking that people in your country don't?
Artful Dodger: *sigh* we've been over 'free' with Czuch. Yes someone pays in one way or another... VAT, Income Tax, etc, etc, etc.

TANSTAFL!!

Doctors.. nurses, etc cannot expect not to earn even if it is a vocation. Equipment.. etc, etc.

And I think the idea is everyone pays. Through VAT, Income Tax, Corporate Tax, Duties, etc, etc, etc..

Everyone pays in some form or another over here... isn't that fair?

Yet.. over here, with regards to private sector contractors, they have to make a bid, they have to show that they will do the job.

Daylight robbery is a crime here. Several big building contractor firms found out that when they rigged construction job prices.

Is this sensible?

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