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10. Junio 2004, 13:48:42
Rogue Lion 
Any fault remains with me. BK is still in infancy and Fencer does the best he can, learning more about best way to do things as he goes. Most cut him some slack and keep things in perspective. Some just can't wait to share their ill disposition. One thing is for sure, no one faces any harm while things get sorted here. In the past some have played mind games with tournaments, prizes, fellowships, etc... This was never my intention. I come here for good games, friends, and positive interactions. Not for grief. I am too busy in life to feel obligated to endure misery from anyone here. I truly miss the atmosphere I encountered when first I came here. Those who remember will know what I mean and share the feeling. Those who would seek to perpetually force their negativity upon the silent majority unfortunately grow in number proportionately. Sad fact. This is NOT directed at Caissus! He is nothing less than a valuable asset to this site and a friend.
Whatever I do from here will be completely anonymous and well under the radar so nobody needs to wonder if I've learned my lesson. Thanks to all who place good will to others and understanding above prizes. If someone wants to use computers to win, I hope they play someone else. I would like to note that I was not even a participant in the tournament in question. This was to remove any appearance of foul play, namely that I might use a computer to win my own prize. There are many good people here!

10. Junio 2004, 10:38:05
Caissus 
Asunto: Re: BK World Championship Chess Tournament
Walter,the offered prizes are mostly memberships.
The prize tournements donated by members are one of the great features of BK.But we need rules for it.Okay,if the promised prize will not handed over,you can say it is a matter of the donor.
But the donor uses the Bk server for his promises,that`s why it is a matter also of BK!
I suggest the following: If a prize tournement is offered by the tournement creator,he has to give the prize within 10 days to Fencer,otherwise the tournement will be deleted as not seriously.With this measure can be ensured that the winner gets indeed the promised prize,if the tournement is finished perhaps 6 or 12 months later.

10. Junio 2004, 08:45:15
Walter Montego 
Asunto: Re: BK World Championship Chess Tournament
Perhaps you should have the tournament as a Dark Chess tournament instead of regular Chess? I doubt very much that there's any programs for it or that they play very good, plus it's not easy for players to get help from kibitzers either. If not, what was the prize that you were offering? Maybe I'll match it sometime in the future and do it myself.

10. Junio 2004, 02:42:44
Stevie 
Asunto: Quick Reversi tournys
Stevies Reversi Tourny's #3 (2day moves)

Enjoy and have fun with the games :o)

Steve

10. Junio 2004, 00:46:55
bumble 
No, don't leave Rogue Lion. Surely everyone can see that you did the right thing? I mean, what else could you do? No-one is going to hold it against you. At least you were decent enough to try. It's not your fault that a few can spoil it for the many.

10. Junio 2004, 00:15:30
harley 
Rogue, don't do that, I also think you did the right thing. As you say, you were between a rock and a hard place. I don't see you had any other option, I'm sure I would have made that decision too.

10. Junio 2004, 00:11:41
Rogue Lion 
Thanks bumble, but already too much flak and no way to ever live it down. I have resigned all my games and will forfeit my recently renewed membership as donation to Fencer. Maybe this shows it's not about the money as some will suspect.

9. Junio 2004, 23:59:58
bumble 
Hey, it's not your fault, Rogue Lion. You can't be held responsible. To my mind you did the right thing.

9. Junio 2004, 23:57:55
Rogue Lion 
And here is where I cannot win. Some are already complaining of known "cheaters" while the others say it's not cheating at all. I am in between a rock and hard place. Maybe we just have fritz play fritz and I give fritz $80. Any blame stays with ME.

9. Junio 2004, 22:24:55
bumble 
Unfortunately I think it's a sign of the times, BBW. There's no way of checking as far as I'm aware.

9. Junio 2004, 22:14:05
coan.net 
I've always thought that is was basicly an "unwritten" rule that using any type of program (including chess programs) are against the rules. I mean the point of playing a games with someone is to play them, not their computer.

9. Junio 2004, 20:41:11
Caissus 
Asunto: Re: BK World Championship Chess Tournament
It is not okay to offer a prize tournement and than to delete the tournement and to withdraw the prize!We have had it in the past several times and the players always are the fools then!

And in addition it is my impression you don`t know what you speak about:
Don`t you know that in correspondence chess (and turn-based chess with his asynchron playing is nothing else than correspondence chess,beside cards,fax and e-mail) using chesssoftware is not cheating?. Read the rules of the International Correspondence Chess Federation (ICCF).Do you find there any prohibitions? Read the rules of Brainking! Are there any prohibitions? No there aren`t.
The reason is :You cannot control ist really! And prohibitions make sense only if you have a real control!But as far as there are no prohibitions, it is allowed and it is not cheating!
The truth is: 70-80% of the world`s correspondence chess players everywhere are playing with all helps they can have : books,databases,common analysis a n d chesssoftware. And in Brainking it is the same.The truth is also that they/we all play zentaurchess (human-machine) but this is not a reason to complain,because the chances are equal for all players.
If those,who say "cheating!",want avoid this,they can play "live" at one of the great live -chesservers (ICC,USCL or playchess.com) like a "man" and show their abilities.There - at "Livechess" with his synchron playing,only one game in 5,10 or 15 minutes for the whole game - computers are forbidden and at playchess.com for instance your account will deleted automatically if you are using software(They can control it really).

I am very disappointed now,you should have considered these facts before:The prize was advertised by :"Sponsored by the chessclub"!
But we here in BK will continue to play correspondence chess tournements,every player with his own technique,but within the rules and without "cheating"!

9. Junio 2004, 18:38:55
Backoff 
bummer. oh well. I guess that's a fact of life. Some people just don't how to win and lose like a man (or woman). If I beat someone, it's because I won fairly. If I get beat, I want it be because I got beat by someone better than me, not because I got beat by a computer.

9. Junio 2004, 18:18:38
Rogue Lion 
Asunto: BK World Championship Chess Tournament
It has been brought to my attention that the use of chess software to make moves in this event is a distinct probability. Unfortunately, this form of cheating is impossible to prove, and the controversy that such allegations would create are beyond resolution. As this issue has become a point of contention weeks before the actual event was scheduled to begin and I have no way of insuring a fair result it is with great regret that I must announce the tournament has been CANCELLED .
I will not attempt any prize orientated chess tournaments again. I am deeply sorry for any inconvenience. Thank you for your understanding, R*L

4. Junio 2004, 20:55:30
kitti 
Asunto: Pawn to Knight
I have created a 6x6 Reversi tournament for Brain Pawns only. The winner of the tournament will receive Brain Knight membership for 6 months. Accounts created after i created the tourney will be removed. Pawn to Knight

4. Junio 2004, 19:10:50
Dolittle 
Asunto: Re:
I like quick games as I play several times a day!

4. Junio 2004, 14:45:40
Jason 
why not ?
its basically to get more of the same type of people together ......how else can i do it ,only by invites but i dont really know who wants to play quick games ;)

4. Junio 2004, 14:21:50
Andersp 
Asunto: Re: do you like faster finishing tournaments ? this could be for you if you are a quick player ;)
why in a fellowship?

4. Junio 2004, 10:56:08
Jason 
Asunto: do you like faster finishing tournaments ? this could be for you if you are a quick player ;)
Ok i have added to the practice room fellowship for the faster moving players .

"Ряactice яoom" (unrated) & fast tournament finishes(rated).Will be renamed Two into one ,in the near future ;) for anybody that would like to play or try any new games , all on a fun basis without affecting your bkr rating .anybody interested trying something new click the link above ;).Also there is now a side to it for people who would like to play games at a quicker pace with like minded people , hopefully complete all tournaments within a week (rated).

4. Junio 2004, 06:47:41
Radiant2008 :-) 
Asunto: Congratulations from Brave Eagles to Shawn
who won the 8+8 Halma tournament!

Ron sent me this message to post here, since he cannot post here anymore..

2. Junio 2004, 07:29:46
Antje 
The Sunshine Club needs players to sign up for the following tournaments:

Dark Chess
Corner Checkers
Anti Chess

set to start as soon as there is a minimum of 4 players for each game.

Good luck and have fun!

1. Junio 2004, 04:54:37
coan.net 
Just to let everyone know, you have about 1 day left to sign up for the 4th tournament for dummies.

Games: ALL GAMES
BKR: Under 1500 (and unrated)

It is a great way to learn new games, also to be able to play games which you might not be too good at (and you don't have to worry about playing any of the "experts")

Before the tournament starts, I may remove users who are WAY over the 1500 BKR limit, so feel free to sign up for all you want!

Sign up: H E R E ! ! ! ! !

29. Mayo 2004, 17:27:34
TexasToest 
Asunto: All Games For All...sponsored by A POWER HOUSE
Please sign up for something on this tournament. We need some players to complete some of the games. It takes 4 to start. Every game offered on BK tournaments is there. I'd like to know what people like to play here. So please vote by signing up.

29. Mayo 2004, 13:44:53
Usurper 
Asunto: Immortals 3-Move Invitational
This is simply a reminder to those who are participating.

The tournament will start later this weekend & please remember that all participants have agreed to play each side of the following opening in all games, through all rounds:

9-13 22-18 10-14

This is known as THE INFERNO opening, a very difficult one which has only been recently approved by the ACF for the 3-Move Restriction Deck, after extensive testing via Mail-Play.

If there is any confusion remaining about which move or moves to make to begin your games (to ensure The Inferno is being played), please contact me or Nomad & we'll do our best to set you on the right track.

I wish you all great gaming & sportsmanship in the tournament. :o)

29. Mayo 2004, 06:10:50
Dolittle 
Thanks BBW for answering my question!

29. Mayo 2004, 05:40:15
coan.net 
Asunto: 4th tournament for dummies
The tournament is also open for unrated players, so the "high rated" players in there now are probable playres who were unrated when the signed up, but now have a rating.

Before I start the tournament, I will go though each of the games and remove players that are WAY over the 1500 BKR limit. (Even though I may allow users who are now just a little over 1500 stay.)

29. Mayo 2004, 03:30:03
Dolittle 
Asunto: Re: 4th Tournament for dummies
BBW, I don't understand how some can sign up and others can't. In a few of them I got a message that I couldn't sign up because my rating was say 1510 or 1600, yet there are some members signed up in some of the games with much higher ratings (some over 1800).
Will these be allowed to stay? Just curious!!

25. Mayo 2004, 23:24:29
Nasmichael 
Need two more players for Dark Chess in the ChessMinded tournament.

24. Mayo 2004, 20:33:29
Nasmichael 
Attention, chess fans and chess-curious: Join the ChessMinded--Chess + Variants tournament, including the standard game, Janus Chess, Dark Chess, Gothic Chess, Screen Chess, and (for those who do not mind the stilted strength of white's army in this case) Horde Chess. We need players, and it starts on the 28th May.

24. Mayo 2004, 20:00:48
VikingX 
More players needed for Fast start Pente tournament starting tomorrow!
Tourny is for players with 1700+ BKR.

23. Mayo 2004, 18:08:19
coan.net 
Yea..... NOW you tell me a couple of weeks before the new system will be here! :-)

23. Mayo 2004, 17:58:47
Fencer 
NEVER use the refresh button when creating tournament sections or games! :-))
However, it will be solved by BK 2.0 tournament system soon.

23. Mayo 2004, 17:50:43
coan.net 
Actually my screen went to white, which made me have to hit the refresh button.... I believe. :-)

23. Mayo 2004, 13:44:52
Backoff 
lol I had 2 spider line 4 games with myself. I bet I could still lose those :)

23. Mayo 2004, 08:19:26
Fencer 
BBW: You had clicked on the "create" button more than once, huh? :-)
That's why there will be no such button in BK 2.0 and all tournaments will be controlled automatically by a script.

23. Mayo 2004, 00:53:09
ellieoop 
Asunto: Re:
HUH!!!

23. Mayo 2004, 00:49:18
Backoff 
hey it's ok, I can lose more than 2 games at a time :)

23. Mayo 2004, 00:48:15
ellieoop 
Asunto: Re:
i didn't msg, Fencer, i won't play those games til they're fxed.
thx.

23. Mayo 2004, 00:43:24
coan.net 
I have already wrote to Fencer about the Spider Line4 tournament which is messed up. Also, the Five in line 4 tournament I recently started is also messed up. Fencer should be able to fix it the next time he is on-line! :-)

23. Mayo 2004, 00:36:00
ellieoop 
Asunto: Re:
i was hoping maybe BBW can fix it, i just counted, i have 24 games. LOL.. i'll send him a msg to read this bd. thx. rod.

23. Mayo 2004, 00:34:28
rod03801 
ImUpChucking, I think your best bet would be to click on one of the games to see when the first move was made... I think that is your only way, really..

23. Mayo 2004, 00:33:30
rod03801 
Write to Fencer, Ellie... I just was put into a round 2 of a tournament where I lost in the first round... Fencer fixed it right away.

23. Mayo 2004, 00:29:40
ellieoop 
Asunto: ATT: BBW
not only do i have too many games in the fast spider that just started, i'm even playing myself, and i wished myself Good Luck before i realized it was me. i think something is wrong.

23. Mayo 2004, 00:27:48
Czuch 
Asunto: Is there a way...
... To find out when a tournament began? (as in the date it started)

22. Mayo 2004, 23:15:11
Walter Montego 
Asunto: Dark Chess and Extinction Chess Quarterly tournaments
Hey, just five more weeks until they start.
They're both opens, all are welcome. Both have some top rated players, it'll be a challenge and an oportunity.
In the first quarter Dark Chess. Tenuki and I have won section one, with section two up for grabs amongst three players.
The Extinction Chess first quarter has me eliminated with a three way tie for first place with two games being played.

21. Mayo 2004, 06:32:15
coan.net 
The 4th Tournament for "Dummies" is set to start on June 1st.

OK, Tournament is not really for dummies - but for people who do not have a very high rating, and would like to play games with others of similar skill (Without having to worry about getting beat badly by game experts!)

Tournament: ALL GAMES - People rated 1500 or under.

Unrated Players: You are allowed to enter, and is a great way to learn a new game.

NOTE: Sometimes a person will enter unrated, and by the time the tournament starts, might have a rating higher then 1500. Before the tournament starts, I may remove players that are WAY over the 1500 limit. If someone has lets say 1525 or something, I may let them slip by.

S I G N U P H E R E
S I G N U P H E R E
S I G N U P H E R E
S I G N U P H E R E
S I G N U P H E R E
S I G N U P H E R E
S I G N U P H E R E

18. Mayo 2004, 08:52:25
Fencer 
ughaibu: There is a set number of slots required [5 for one-game tourneys, 10 for two-game ones] because there is no way how to determine exact number of required slots before the sections are created [because some players can be removed during this process].

18. Mayo 2004, 08:21:10
sandra... 
i believe they need to have one more free space than what they need Ug, I am sure someone can help more than i can though :)

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