congrats Jason... 996 moves to be exact...

lovelysharon: ;) Its been a great game neck and neck for hundreds of moves

sorry I don't follow general chat... and it may be my style of play in this type game that has made it last so long... not giving up now... :) although i do believe Jason may have it...

Andre Faria: And the winner has already been determined! Fencer is unwise for not upgrading the system so that in tournaments like this winners are declared as soon as they are mathematically assured, even if all games are not finished. Even ****** IYT has that.

lovelysharon: Yep, I know. I stated that in the general chat. Almost 3 moves/day.

In this kind of games there´s a big risk of someone being stucked for more than a year...

Andre Faria: I know seems my game with Jason is holding things up there... but we've been moving right along... now at move 989.. :)

http://brainking.com/pt/Tournaments?trg=4259&tri=12397

Pioneer54: I'm still playing in a tourney that started:

24. November 2004, 06:05:17

I was a knight when I renewed but found I couldn't play in any tourneys. When I looked at all of the running tourneys I was no longer playing in but they were still running, I realised it would be months before I could even join any new ones. So I went to the rook membership.

You really have to plan carefully if you join a tourney. Even the 7 day tourneys can take a long long time. ;)

Re: on Time

I sympathize with BG's earlier comments. I've entered quite a few tournaments with longer time limits, thinking that would not matter, and MAN, DID I EVER GET BURNED!!? Now I'm stuck in events, including some in which I finished my games many weeks ago, due to the fact that one player or another--who has way too many games going--is moving almost constantly at the "11th hour".

Nothing to do but wait.... and wait.... and wait.... and wait.... However, when browsing the tournament list, I no longer even consider those listings that have time limits greater than 5 days, and I'm even a bit hesitant at that level.

It has been argued that an access problem or emergency could cause some timeouts. I thought that is what the "autovac" policy was for. Even so, I would rather deal with that than the slow play alternative; after all, there will be other tournaments, other times.

rod03801: thanks ;)

By clicking on the individual game, and scrolling down to the move list.

Bry: wow...that's a looooooong tourney. How can you tell when it started?

DanDanDan: Oldest Running Tournament??

Here

7 days time limit....... Only 15 Players....

Started 22nd May 2003.

baddessi: thx.....

redfrog: you must be! Good luck with that!

I must be crazy...1800 limit...first 4 to sign

Bry: My guess is that your 21 day tourneys finish in about the same time a 7 day move tourney would. Generally speaking. There's always acceptions.

I just played in a backgammon tourney, can't remember the time controls, but I went to bed with no moves in any games, and woke up to having timed out in three of my games! whoah.

BG: Apologies - that wasn't directed at you, I was agreeing with your comments - it's like Eriisa has stated others see the 21 days and go on and on and on and on and on about it being too long.

BG: Mine was a general comment not a reply to you.

Why do some people seem to take great delight in holding tournaments up? I don't know. Perhaps they want to see the other's results first. Perhaps they have too many games.
I don't know a way of avoiding them other than restricting oneself to the fast tournaments, but even then...

Sorry Eriisa, I was directing my comments at bumble.

I knew that, BG. I just didn't want you thinking that we thought different.

Go back and read what I said. I am not complaining about Bry's tournament, which I have not joined.

I think the bottom line is, Bry's backgammon tournaments remain among the most popular on BK.
And of course anyone is entitled to promote their tournament here. And of course anyone is entitled to express their opinion. This is the Tournaments discussion board.

As Bry says, though, you know the set up of the tournament before it starts. If you accept that, sign up. If you don't accept it, then don't sign up. There are plenty of other tournaments, or create your own with your preferences as to
game time etc.

BG: Its not you that he meant was moaning, BG. There are others to scream, cry and stamp their feet about it!

Who's moaning? I am untitled to my considered opinion. What it will do is make me consider more carefully before I renew my membership again. This board is better served by people who play timeously than others.

BG: Yes, you may be right. I think there are pro's and con's. You either join them or you dont - time for people to stop moaning about it when a link is posted.

We've had the discussions on time limits and sportsmanship many times already so perhapos this should be the last post on the subject.

I like your approach Bry, but some players take a pride in moving slowly. Their attitude is that if you don't like it don't join tournaments that they are in. As these people tend to enter every tournament going, it can make tournaments very frustrating when three months after everyone else have finished they are holding up their section of the tournament. Naturally all this is legitimate, because as they argue they are not doing anything wrong. I would argue that it is not within the spirit of gamesmanship.

baddessi:

The reality is most people move every day. Yes there are some players who use more of the time, but if you have a number of games going, you can cope with one or two not moving very fast.

I remember a few weeks back, Chessmaster 1000 had real problems getting online and timed-out in quite a high number of games. If these games would have had a higher time limit, they would not have timed out. Having a higher time limit would not have affected how often CM1000 moved, and more often than not the opponents too.

I move usually every day - the only reason I choose 21 days for my tournaments is so that, should I have any problems with access, I know my games will not time out, BUT it doesn't stop me making moves on the games every day, nor many many others.

I have to say that since I'm on often, I love the fast tourneys. When work is slow, or it's the weekend, I can rush through them quickly- sometimes if my opponents are on line- it's great to have a one on one and finish it right away! Very fun.
I also like the ones I'm not under pressure to move every day when work picks up. Since this sight gives you so much flexibility, why not enjoy both kinds? I do!
I love your tourneys Bry. There's always great competative players in them. I'm in!

frolind: Correct.

If you dont want to join then dont. If you do, good luck and enjoy it.

Exactly - if you like it, join. If not, then don't join. There are plenty of tournaments with many different limits for everyone - so instead of complaining about ones you do not like, it's much beter to just join the ones that fits your needs the best.

This is commented every time Bry posts his tournaments here. Time to just accept Bry's preferences?

BIG BAD WOLF: That seems eminently sensible for chess perhaps, but backgammon!!! Who needs more than a minute or two to make a backgammon move? If everybody took 21 days the first round could take two to three years!!

BG: That is the time allowed per move

Bry: Is time for the game (21 days) the time from the beginning to the end of the game, or time per move?

Backgammon Tournament.

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rod03801: i agree. Anybody who needs to set up a tournament which starts more than a month in advance has a serious problem. Maybe this should be moved to "Feature requests" to see if we can get some sanity to tournament setup!

BerniceC: Personally, I don't think it should be allowed. (It should AT LEAST be limited to when a person's paid membership ends). My theory is that they like seeing their tournaments always advertised in that green box at the top of the main page. I believe it randomly advertises tournaments on the list, and of course, the more tournaments you have in there, the odds of it being your tournament advertised, increase.
I don't understand the need to have the ability to set up such huge numbers of tournaments, so far ahead of time..

why would anybody set up games (tournament) to start in 400+ days...with a 5 day play....my god...it will be 2020 before most of these would be finished LOLOL.

Is this person just being a pest???

Looks like many of the tournaments, which annoyed so many before the tournament list was restructured, has become useless or overly optimistic after the BKR recalculation.
Not that I mind. Just an observation. :)

AtomicGuy: http://brainking.com/en/PaidMembership

how to start a tournament? plz messenage me.

If i missed sending you a invite,just message me and i will send you one

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BIG BAD WOLF: The solution is to automate the removal process. I woukld consider not having this built into BK as a bug!

nobleheart: I'm not sure what you are saying.

My "dummies" tournaments are setup so that only people rated 1500 and below along with unrated players can sign up. But the problem is that people will sign up when they are below the rated level or unrated, but by the time it starts - ratings change to go above the limit so if they are way over, the tournament creators job is to remove those people.

I could set up intermediate & advance tournaments also for players rated in many different sections - many the next time I create a "dummies" tournament in a few weeks, I may create 3 tournaments for different levels or something - I will think about it.

BIG BAD WOLF: would it be more fair to set it up so that tournaments can be set for a "rating range" for beginners,intermediates,advanced or no limit.
but then the time ,effort to create this & the load on the server would be a great condideration.

Winner is: sarok

Well played, Oscar! All others, thank you for the games and the fun!

The best solution would be if the system automatically removed anyone AS SOON as they became ineligible. ;-)

No, what is hard is when only 4 players are signed up and one of them are in lets say the 1700's.

So on one hand you want to remove the now really high rated person, but on the other hand - if you do, that tournament will not start. Now that is a hard choice.

= = = = =

Luckly I have not encountered a situation where someone is at 1599, and another is a little higher. - so have not had to worry about that. (But if I did, and plenty of other people were in the tournament under the limit - I would probable remove both.) Again, 1600 is the number around where I conser to be "way" over 1500 - so I do have some flexability either way. But again luckly I have not had to worry about a situation like that yet.