A lot of us have wanted to see ladders here for games like checkers and while they can be fun they are seldom an accurate indicator of true skill level. On IYT 48 hour ladder I am now #8 and ahead of some players I couldn't beat in a hundred years. It is very much a matter of luck and timing. That being said I would still like to see a ladder here just for the heck of it even though I know they are difficult to set up.