Czuch Chuckers: Then what is called the minimum by your logic isn't really the minimum, is it? I've listed both cases and you still aren't grasping it. The next time you set up one of these Minimum Bet Pond games would you clearly, let me repeat that, clearly state exactly how much must be bet on one's first turn?
It says 19000 and you ask for it as the minimum, then 19000 is acceptable as far as I can see. If you really mean 19000 + 1 or more, please state that. Then I'll know the real minimum is actually 19001 and nothing will have changed except that. Then you'll have someone bet 19001 and someone wil bet 1856 and you'll be right back here arguing the same thing we've been arguing about all day, because it's still the minimum and it doesn't change nothing.