Muslims burning down Catholic churches in Sudan and Nigeria is commonplace according to African priests who visited my parish this past year. One of the priests said the people had just built themselves a new church, and worshipped in it for a few months before it was leveled. Where is the Vatican's outrage on these horrendous crimes?

So, the issue has nothing to do with whether someone should be allowed to burn a sacred text, but it has everything to do with the group you are offending. If you're Christian, you can forget the powerful elites coming to your aid when your church is trashed or your crucifixes are covered up. Apparently, in present day America, all religions are not equal; as a matter of fact, the scales are tipping toward Mecca.

President Obama when giving a speech at Georgetown University, a Catholic institution, had all images and symbols of Jesus Christ covered so as not to show up in his video frame.

"In coordinating the logistical arrangements for yesterday's event, Georgetown honored the White House staff's request to cover all of the Georgetown University signage and symbols behind Gaston Hall stage," Julie Green Bataille, associate vice president for communications at Georgetown, told CNSNews.com."

In Afghanistan last year, Christian U.S. Army troops engaged in proselytizing the Afghan people by attempting to hand out Bibles written in their native language. The soldiers were stopped, and the copies of the Bible were burned. According to Politico:


Christian Broadcasting's David Brody says "the Bibles were burned because the rules on the base say that all garbage is burned at the end of the day. But just asking here; if the U.S. Military seized a stack full of Korans, would they be burned? You think that might cause a little outrage in the Muslim world?"

So, everyone, please shut up about the Quran-burning religious nuts at that ridiculous church (who at least don't behead or
imprison people of other faiths for not being of their own). The
freedom to be insensitive to others is part and parcel of freedom of
speech. It's no different when talking about building mosques at Ground
Zero; burning American flags; or whatever. Feel free to protest and
even despise what you don't approve of.

Personally, I am far less
offended by their insensitivity than I am by the flag-burning,
America-hating subset of the political left (who believe in free speech
for themselves and their special interests; but not for you if you disagree with them). In fact, they will defend to the death their right to keep you silent.

But, there is nothing more...American... than defending some clueless moron's right to make a complete fool of himself or herself.

Or,
to model himself after one specific clueless leftist moron, perhaps
Terry Jones could just put the Quran in the dirt somewhere and stomp on
it? [link]

PRICELESS

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"Job growth between 2000 and 2008 was slower than it had been in any economic expansion since World War II -– slower than it’s been over the last year. The wages and incomes of middle-class families kept falling while the cost of everything from tuition to health care kept on going up. Folks were forced to put more debt on their credit cards and borrow against homes that many couldn’t afford to buy in the first place. And meanwhile, a failure to pay for two wars and two tax cuts for the wealthy helped turn a record surplus into a record deficit"

Bernice:

A clip of Brian Blessed presenting "Have I got news for you!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgOiiFv9DZ0

Beware.. it is full of satire!!

Bernice: How come? He has in the past

The Col: you can guarantee that AD wouldn't delete his own posts, unlike some I could name but won't because people don't seem to like that.

Artful Dodger: did you get censored or did you delete your posts?

Artful Dodger: ROFl, but you got the wrong face on it hahahahahaha

Bernice: There is in the telling of history and of current events, something called being satirical .. from "satire"

Satire is primarily a literary genre or form, although in practice it can also be found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement.[1] Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon.

Blame the BBC and their wonderful programs such as "QI" and "Have I got news for you".. I'd like to also thank C4, ITV.

Heard of Oscar Wilde??

Tuesday: thanks

Tuesday: What's that "let God sort them out" quote? I probably have it wrong

Artful Dodger: Thank you for your opinion

Artful Dodger: thanks for the suggestion,I'm comfortable with what I have posted

Artful Dodger: oh, an argument is what you want, sorry

Artful Dodger: Is god vengeful?

A:

Yes God is vengeful, below are a few scriptures that you may wish to confirm this.

Gen. 4:15 (Moses 5:40) whosoever slayeth Cain, v. shall be taken
Deut. 32:35 (Heb. 10:30) To me belongeth v.
Deut. 32:41 I will render v. to mine enemies
Ps. 94:1 God, to whom v. belongeth
Ps. 149:7 execute v. upon the heathen
Prov. 6:34 he will not spare in the day of v.
Isa. 34:8 day of the Lord's v.
Isa. 35:4 your God will come with v.
Isa. 59:17 he put on the garments of v.
Isa. 61:2 To proclaim ... the day of v. of our God
Isa. 63:4 day of v. is in mine heart
Jer. 11:20 Lord ... let me see thy v. on them
Jer. 50:28 declare in Zion the v. of the Lord
Jer. 51:6 time of the Lord's v.
Micah 5:15 I will execute v.
Nahum 1:2 Lord will take v. on his adversaries
Luke 21:22 these be the days of v.
Rom. 3:5 Is God unrighteous who taketh v.
Rom. 12:19 (Morm. 3:15; 8:20) V. is mine: I will repay
2 Thes. 1:8 taking v. on them that know not God
Jude 1:7 example, suffering the v. of eternal fire


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_god_vengeful

Bwild:

Bwild: The downside to that, is that the ones most willing to do it are usually the ones least in demand

(V): that is sick....fries...women and children being burnt/killed. If that were your wife and children you wouldnt be too happy...

an old film or not, it isnt to be associated with "fries"

Speaking of fries.. an clip from an old film...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx7XNb3Q9Ek&feature=related

Bernice: I remembered the Nazi's burned books... it's a history thing.

As to burning Bibles... Just a book. as The Col. said... you can just print more.

Bwild: They'd have to be cheap ones these days for any woman to want to burn!!

now how clever is that?

The Col: there are now 20 members...the rest left....

(V) who's talking of the NAzi's

(V): I liked it better when they just burned bra's!

The Col: If it wasn't for the fact he's already been told the fire itself is illegal.. I'd go along and burn 4 Bibles for every one Qur'an he burns.

... see who cracks first.

The Col: ... Incendiaries can be renamed "fries".

Übergeek 바둑이: The Nazi's burned books.....

Bernice: How many members are there in that church? 50? I suggest protestors set up a printing press nearby, and for every Koran burned, print two more.

According to the news the powers that be can't do anything about this Pastor burning the Koran.....I would lay money on - if he was burning the American flag they would soon do something about it. Why antagonise the Muslims - aren't they doing enough to make people miserable without making it worse?

(V): Burger King would be able add a whole new meaning to The Whopper

A radio commentator here said the following, in a rather sarcastic tone:

"Since when has anything bad happened when people decide it is OK to burn books."

If the idiots in Florida go ahead, the following will happen:

1. Moslems in many countries will make big bonfires and burn copies of the New Testament.

2. There will be massive protests in Islamic countries, and they will put a price on the head of that pastor, just like they did with Salman Rushdie.

3. Al Qaida will come out and say "we told you so", referring to how "American imperialists hate Islam".

3. There will be an increase in terrorist attacks against both military and civilian targets both in the Middle East and elsewhere.

In the mantime that pastor will get more people into his church, which means more notoriety and more money for him. I doubt that his motives are fuelled by a "Christian" sentiment, or any real sense of loss after the tragedy of 911.

I wonder how Christian would feel if somebody did the same with the Bible. Say, a bunch of Communists decided to commemorate the birth of Karl Marx by burning the New Testament. The man who is trying to burn the Koran is either too selfish and too stupid to even realize what he is doing, or he is too destructive and wants to provoke Moslems.

The Col: .... "That's McDonalds... and then some!!"

(V):Actually, you have made a good point.Sponsorship could help defray the costs of war.Imagine missiles with company logos, or strategic undertakings such as " the surge" being brought to you by American Express

The Col: I think the neo cons will have to settle for solar powered spy planes at the mo.. but soon maybe they can have coca cola powered No. 5's!!

(V): Solar powered robot soldiers would please both the neo cons and the tree huggers

Bwild: A new system of generating green power has just been announced in the UK. It's a form of wave where salt water is pumped into a reservoir which allows it to be used in a hydro electric means.

.. A new type of nanotec for solar which makes them self repairing. Also that soon we might be able to top up batteries with a sugary liquid.

Tuesday: Nope.. I've heard of sadder.

when clinton was pres...they had bin laden in the crosshairs,but because laden was with arab emissaries,,he didnt order to execute ....should we blame 911 on clinton?