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6. November 2009, 19:30:58
Dark Prince 
Emne: S-B
It appears that the players highlighted in yellow advance to the next round.
It looks like round 2 will have 2 sections of 4 players each if the S-B calculates Thom and me to be even.

7. November 2009, 00:07:52
Chaos 
Emne: Re: S-B
Dark Prince: I'm puzzled. Why did you and Thom agree to a draw? The game doesn't look finished at to me all.

Those who'll go to round 2 of Open Fast #1 are known (indeed you and Thom are both in) and only 1 game to finish. I'm curious who'll be my opponents in the second round.

7. November 2009, 04:47:37
Dark Prince 
Emne: Re: Draw
Chaos:
We had each ID'd most of the other's pieces, and our material was close to even. Strategically it seemed unlikely that either one of us would be sure to force our way through to the enemy HQ or to gain a decisive advantage.
Additionally, it seemed our schedules didn't coincide well for making many moves per day and there was only one other incomplete game in the round. We can do battle again.
Jared

9. November 2009, 13:40:23
dAGGER 
Emne: Re: Draw
Dark Prince:
I'm sorry to see that my game with Brainsurfer is the last of the first round and it is not relevant for the second round.
It will not last for long, please don't ask me to resign now because I'm near to win.

9. November 2009, 18:33:24
Dark Prince 
Emne: Re: Draw
dAGGER:
I wouldn't consider making such a presumptuous request. In fact, once I was informed that round 2 would not begin until all games of round 1 were complete, I discussed with Thom continuing our game though the offer of a draw had already been made. I then accepted the offer and am happy to have an interlude with no games here before the 2nd round begins.
Enjoy your game!
Jared

10. November 2009, 16:21:15
rod03801 
Emne: Re: S-B
Dark Prince: Just one quick note about the S-B here at Brainking. The ONLY time S-B points have any relevance here, is when there is a tie in "points". (So the S-B points work as a "tie breaker") SO, if I am looking at the correct tournament, it appears Happy Hermit has won that section, regardless of how that last game turns out.

Maybe you have already figured this out. I'm a day or 2 behind in the conversation.

10. November 2009, 16:34:17
dAGGER 
Emne: Re: S-B
rod03801:
someone knows something more about the S-B points?
The explanation given here at BK is not so clear.....

10. November 2009, 16:48:59
happy hermit 
Emne: Re: S-B
dAGGER:

Player A's S-B points are the sum of the points scored by the players that Player A wins against plus half the points scored by the players that Player A draws against.

BK's wording is a little more awkward.

10. November 2009, 16:58:22
rod03801 
Emne: Re: S-B
dAGGER: Again, they are only used when people have the same number of points from wins of games. They break the tie.

I'm not sure I can describe how they are figured, very easily.

Basically, you figure them by looking at each instance when someone wins a game against someone else. You get a point for each win that they had.

For example there is a 4 player section. Players are A B C and D. Player A won only their game against player B. Player B won their games against players C and D, Player C won their games against A and D, and Player D won their game against player A only.

So, when you just go by "wins", player B and C tied. So, Brainking would then go to the S-B points.

Player A has 2 S-B point. (He only won against player B who had 2 wins)
Player B has 3 S-B points (He won against C who had 2 wins, and D who had 1 win)
Player C has 2 S-B points (He won against player A who had 1 win and player D who had 1 win)
Player D has 1 S-B point (He won only against player A who had 1 win)

Now, since the Tie was between B and C (2 wins each), B actually wins the section because he had more S-B points. (In other words, he is considered to have done better, because he beat players who did better)

Does that make sense? Maybe I'll find an actual link to a tourney where this came in to play.

10. November 2009, 16:59:14
rod03801 
Emne: Re: S-B
Tilpasset af rod03801 (10. November 2009, 17:12:56)
dAGGER: Of course in a game with 2 games for each player, it gets a little more complicated, but the way of figuring is basically the same.

If someone wins both games against someone, they get double the number of wins that person had (In S-B points). (So, if player A won both games against player B, and player B had 2 wins, Player A gets 4 S-B points for those games against that person)

If someone wins one of the 2 games against someone, they get the number of wins that person had (In S-B points). (So, if player A won only one of their games against Player B who had 2 wins, Player A gets 2 S-B points for those games against that person)

If someone loses both games against someone, they get no S-B points for those games against that person

10. November 2009, 17:05:01
rod03801 
Emne: Re: S-B
dAGGER: Here are some links of some of my tournies where S-B was a factor:

Sunshine in June Game where each player has 1 game and S-B points came in to play

Masters 2 Game where each player has 2 games

Fast Start - First 5 - Massacre Chess #2 game where each player has 1 game each, but the S-B points tied as well

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