I must agree with BOTH of you on this. Yes, the ratings are ridiculously high or low sometimes, and not that meaningful. But when exactly should they been shown anyway? To me, 4 is as good an arbitrary # as any. I think, Uwe, you just have to take them for what they are: provisional BKR ratings that have no meaning outside of this site. However, on this site, they are obviously meaningful to some people who have played just 4 games and then refuse to take challenges..